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Title: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: bennymon on February 07, 2013, 06:07:55 pm
Hi folks done a bit of dry fusion cleaning recently with some good results . So I decided to test it against my jag so I cleaned my lounge on Sunday with df it looked good and smelt good and the pads didn't look that dirty . I cleaned it again on the Wednesday with the jag and got 1and a half buckets of dirty water . I think we have a clear winner  :)
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Paul Moss on February 07, 2013, 06:12:33 pm
thats always going to be the case with hwe   v padding
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 07, 2013, 06:13:20 pm
Now go back on sunday and do again with the jag bet the waters still dirty  :)
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Russ Chadd on February 07, 2013, 06:19:34 pm
Not a fair comparison in my eyes...
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 07, 2013, 06:27:03 pm
The difference being DF rearranges the dirt and HWE removes it 8)
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Len Gribble on February 07, 2013, 06:29:19 pm
Del

You got far too much time on your hands  ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: *Hector* on February 07, 2013, 06:40:31 pm
The difference being DF rearranges the dirt and HWE removes it 8)

I'm not gonna bite tonight Simon .... sorry  :P

 ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: bennymon on February 07, 2013, 06:46:02 pm
Len you are correct and Simon you are also correct. And yes it is a fair the challenge was to see what would leave my lounge cleaner and you can't argue with the facts . If I was to clean it again this Sunday with jag and get more dirt out would it not show that the df was even further away from the required result. Del   ;)
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 07, 2013, 06:56:51 pm
No it will show you water will go dirty flushed through a carpet and your machine no matter how many times you clean it  ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: garry22 on February 07, 2013, 06:59:26 pm
I find DF great for putting right office tiles that have be badly cleaned with HWE  ;D

For the record, I use both - probably HWE more than DF. It just depends on the type of job

It's horses for courses (but you knew that already).
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 07, 2013, 07:02:47 pm
No it will show you water will go dirty flushed through a carpet and your machine no matter how many times you clean it  ;D

That's based on experience, is it, Phil? ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on February 07, 2013, 07:08:31 pm
Why not put both systems together with your clean and get the very best results?

Shaun
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: bennymon on February 07, 2013, 07:43:32 pm
Shaun that's what Chemdry used to do hwe followed by a rotary to dry it off.
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 07, 2013, 08:27:10 pm
No it will show you water will go dirty flushed through a carpet and your machine no matter how many times you clean it  ;D

That's based on experience, is it, Phil? ;D

No Simon but water passing through a carpet being sucked back up through the  wand ,hose and machine will never look clean and whe flushing chems out.
Get a bath wash your hair then unplug and get out then do the same again straight after water will look dirty  ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Simon Gerrard on February 07, 2013, 08:29:28 pm
No it won't ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 07, 2013, 08:51:35 pm
ok a bowl of water  ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Paul Moss on February 07, 2013, 09:48:07 pm
In the showers the boys always ask Simon to pick up the soap  ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Carpet Dawg on February 08, 2013, 12:13:59 am
No it will show you water will go dirty flushed through a carpet and your machine no matter how many times you clean it  ;D

if you tell customers that, they'll not bother getting thier carpets cleaned and put down that plastic wood flooring instead  :P
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: james roffey on February 08, 2013, 09:53:51 am
Not surprised by results, but do the same on low profile carpet tiles and your far more likely to have to return if you HWE it.
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Chris Straker on February 08, 2013, 11:21:13 am
At a commercial where there are 3 floors, I brought Jaguar 6.6 down from boardroom floor to see if I could rinse a stubborn stain from carpet tiles ...... it hardly made a difference and practically ripped tile off adhesive ..... even with the glide on it  :o

Each carpet has it's own best way of being cleaned  ;)
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Doug Holloway on February 08, 2013, 06:20:54 pm
Hi Guys

I'm using heated bonneting all weekend but know that I am not removing as much dirt but on office carpets it often looks better.

Sunday's job is a very dirty commercial where they do not allow HWE from bad experiences but it is because it is so dirty that HWE has failed in the past, with operators getting the carpets too wet.

I will leave it nice and even but not particularly clean ;)

Cheers

Doug
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Russ Chadd on February 08, 2013, 06:26:40 pm
Faced with large areas of commercial floor to clean... HWE just isnt practical or cost effective!
No one is looking for perfection, just clean looking carpets...

Domestic... no there is a different story!
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Strah on February 08, 2013, 10:14:06 pm
Hi folks done a bit of dry fusion cleaning recently with some good results . So I decided to test it against my jag so I cleaned my lounge on Sunday with df it looked good and smelt good and the pads didn't look that dirty . I cleaned it again on the Wednesday with the jag and got 1and a half buckets of dirty water . I think we have a clear winner  :)

hiya  -  may  I  ask you if you have tried Shockwave with yr jaguar (http://www.worldofclean.co.uk/shockwave.html)?  does it really  work on heavily soiled carpet ?

Ive got my  jag 6.6   for  two months  now  -  and  really happy  with everything .  However,  sometimes I'm straggling   with really dirty  areas  and  I  thought  to  get  some  shockwave  - but  not sure  how  to prespray it ?  !

Shall I  use  a hand  sprayer or  is it  ok   to mix the  shockwave in my  jaguar  and use the wand  to prespray ?

I'm  a bit worried as  the shockwave is  powder and may not  dilute properly -  so it can damage the pump ?! 

any  advise will be  appreciate

regards  S
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: garry22 on February 09, 2013, 09:12:50 am
Shockwave is a PRESPRAY and should not be used in tank as it has to be rinsed out thoroughly.
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Strah on February 09, 2013, 04:25:23 pm
Shockwave is a PRESPRAY and should not be used in tank as it has to be rinsed out thoroughly.

I  should book  a  short  course  -   as  quite  confused with all these  chemicals  .

First  the prespray  and  then  cleaning solution ?  plus a  clean  water  rinse ?  quite  a hard  job 

I  used  to  do  it  in a  short  version : )  mostly without  prespray and  and even  without  a rinse : )

lol  live and  learn 



Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 09, 2013, 05:07:38 pm
Shockwave is a PRESPRAY and should not be used in tank as it has to be rinsed out thoroughly.

I  should book  a  short  course  -   as  quite  confused with all these  chemicals  .

First  the prespray  and  then  cleaning solution ?  plus a  clean  water  rinse ?  quite  a hard  job 

I  used  to  do  it  in a  short  version : )  mostly without  prespray and  and even  without  a rinse : )

lol  live and  learn 





You was a carpet Fitter Then  ;D
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: dan paton on February 09, 2013, 05:15:15 pm
prespray shockwave . agitate . extract with plain water and acidic rinse
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on February 09, 2013, 05:16:12 pm
prespray shockwave . agitate . extract with plain water and acidic rinse

Plain water and Acid or 1 or the other  ???
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: dan paton on February 09, 2013, 05:19:17 pm
both . acidic rinse in the water .
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Kinver_Clean on February 09, 2013, 07:46:43 pm
If you want to be a splash and dash merchant buy some cheap detergent, chuck it in the tank, slosh it on the carpet , half suck it out, grab your money and run- fast.

If you want to be a proper carpet cleaner, buy the right stuff, learn how to use it, do a proper job and build a customer base.
It is not difficult - I did it.
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: hotsteam on February 09, 2013, 07:55:20 pm
Trevor please can you stop telling everyone trade secrets !
Regards Pete  ::)roll
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Strah on February 10, 2013, 09:58:38 am
Shockwave is a PRESPRAY and should not be used in tank as it has to be rinsed out thoroughly.

I  should book  a  short  course  -   as  quite  confused with all these  chemicals  .

First  the prespray  and  then  cleaning solution ?  plus a  clean  water  rinse ?  quite  a hard  job 

I  used  to  do  it  in a  short  version : )  mostly without  prespray and  and even  without  a rinse : )

lol  live and  learn 





You was a carpet Fitter Then  ;D

something like  that  -  However  thats  what  I 've  learned over  the  years from my  ex employer -  who  is  a 'professional' carpet  cleaner  in  NE London .    We  usually did  carpets  for  tenants /  letting  agents .    Everyone  was  happy lol

What do  you  use  to apply the  prespray  -  a hand  sprayer ?   I  thought to  DIY  a simple  tank with  a  Shurflo pump - and  a sprayer  wand. 

My last  question   do  you  always prespray  or  just the really dirty / soiled carpets ?

thx
Title: Re: Dry fusion v jag 6.6
Post by: Russ Chadd on February 10, 2013, 10:41:22 am
Strah... if you are serious about carpet cleaning then i would suggest you invest in some training instead of trying to learn the basics on here...