Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wrighty on February 06, 2004, 05:50:34 pm
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HIi,
Does anybody have any council estates on their round and what is your opinion towards these customers. I am not being a snob or have anything against people who live in council houses but I want my money for the work I do without me getting nasty as this will offend.
What do you think?
Craig
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All my work is on one Council Estate and the majority of customers are fine but i am starting to find I am getting paid less and less. That is the only problem I have. As I have never learned to drive I can't really entertain doing other areas.
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Jonty,
How much do you charge them and for what house types?
What area are you in?
Craig
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obviously there are two kinds of council estates.
Just stay away from the area that resmbles the bronx where the council have dumped all the young couples who don't want to work and are waiting for their giros to come through the door.
As for the other council estates they should be fine. I have cleaned on them before and not had many problems.
I have had just as many rich big houses that are none payers.
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There are good payers and bad payers on every street, what I do is when I get a new customer I tell them that I will only clean the windows without getting paid twice , then they have to find another window cleaner,that way if you do have trouble getting paid you are only loosing the money from 2 cleans . I find that the worst payers are the flash houses , most people on estates are ok they know that you are trying to earn a living
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no probs here ..some take 4/5 months!!!!!!!!!!!!!
but its ok when they pay in the end!!!its only the odd few that do this so its cool to do a house and then get a £25 cheque of them...by the way they have never bounced!!!
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The only prob with council is lots of small houses = lots of ladder work. Go for the older estates with older tenants. They usually appreciate a good window cleaner
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give council estates to clean anytime you always get your money but always get the odd one who messes you about but least you get tips of these customers its very rare we get one of the richer clients except for a doctor at xmas just gone got me a £50.00 bottle of champagne dident like it though ;D ;D
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Paul If you get any more £50 bottles of Champagne you don't want give me a call.
A lot of so called council estates round London are not Council at all because The houses were sold in the 80s under the right to buy schemes. My friend bought his Mum and Dads House for £15 grand. Now worth a quarter of a million.
The danger there is that a lot of houses are rented out and people come and go. You knock for your money and a stranger answers the door and tells you to F- offf.
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You knock for your money and a stranger answers the door
This is where you slip into super-salesman mode . . .
YOU Oh yeah, she'd mentioned she was moving out soon. She said she'd recommend us to you, and to just keep doing them. Did she not leave one of our cards (show one) like this in the kitchen?
HIM Don't know what you're on about, mate.
YOU There's obviously been a misunderstanding somewhere, she's probably forgotten to mention it to you amongst all the stuff she had to organise for the move. Oh well . . . How about we give you the first clean free? (cos it looked like you were getting bumped anyway!)
HIM Oh you are wunnerful - I'll tell all my friends, get you to do my work's windows and let you marry my sister that owns a pub! - or words to that effect!
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Wrighty my prices vary from 2-50 for bungalows and 3-50/ 4-00 for most 2/3 bedroom houses to 6-00 for 1 house with a conservatory. I am in Cheshire by the way.
After going collecting in the pouring rain tonight I don't feel as bitter most paid up :D
Just felt good to get it all off me chest :D:D
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When I think of council estates, for some reason the words
"BARGE POLE"
come to mind.
Silly
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where abouts in cheshire are you I'm in St Helens and we won tonight in the first rugby league warm up against Salford if anyones interested.
score: 20 - 10 for the Saints
Come on lads
Craig ;)
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I do a St Helens players (won`t say who :-X) parents windows and they live on a council estate.
Gerry.
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where r u from Gerry. My lad is 8 in 2 weeks and he has trained and met all the first team squad - very promising talent - he even met the head coach again last night and had a photo with him.
Craig
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Craig,
Sorry for late reply but if I said Warriors you would know where I`m from. :-[
I do watch a bit of rugby league (proper rugby) on telly but I don`t go much now.
My dad gets the RL papers as well, so I`ll keep a look out for your sons name and hope he goes all the way.
It`ll be a change having a home grown Saints player, as half your team are from you know where. ;D
Gerry.
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Nice to meet you pieater lol.
It is great to speak to someone more local than London no offence to southeners cos your all ok here but it is nice to be able to relate and have someone to get advice off who is local.
Lets hope we beat Wigan in April. Keep smiling and all the best.
Craig ;)
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Craig,
My sister lived in St.Helens for a few years when she worked at Pilks. My mate also lived there for years but they both saw the light and came back. ;D My dad used to watch Saints when Wigan played away so the rivalry in my family isn`t too bitter. Saying that though I think he watched them hoping they`d lose ;D.
I`ll give you any help I can but I`m not sure how useful it will be, especially about pricing. This forum has made me realise that mine are shockingly low.
Anyway, good luck with your sons career and I`ll keep a look out. I presume his surname is Wright, isn`t it ?
Gerry.
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:)there's nothing wrong with council houses they are the type that work hard to try and get some sort of respectable living style and you always get a cup of tea ;)
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Lots of shiners live on council estates
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Hand on heart when my mum and dad divorced I ended up on a council estate in an area dogs go around in threes. I have done well so far because of my young family and determination to succeed. I have worked hard for what I have and I just wanted your opinions about council estates because when you get used to nice big houses when you go to some estates it doesn't really influence me to canvass it. The reason I asked as I put an add in the local paper for help on my rounds and I got a call from a lady who wants her windows cleaning and her sisters as they say their estate needs a cleaner and would appreciate a good window cleaner.
So do you think I should do it?
If I lived on an estate like that I wouldn't think twice but I am used to my surroundings and I have cold feet so please telll me your opinions.
Craig
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Whenever somebody says to me that there isn't a window cleaner in there area it normally turns out that they are the only house that doesn't have one.
And whenever somebody has a window cleaner they always think he must clean every single house in the area.
Don't put any faith in what they say. But i'd still do it, you can't stereotype a whole estate. There may be some bad customers, but you can weed them out and eventually end up with a good round. I prefer doing smaller houses, they aren't as tight with there money even though they don't have much.
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When i started out window cleaning about 2 years ago my first £50 worth of work that i canvassed up was on a council estate in the centre of manchester in hulme!! Its quite a rough area but the work is amazing!!they hadn't had a window cleaner for so long (last one got stabbed!!)that i could charge really well. Its £4 a house and i can do 6/7 an hour on my own and well over ten with the young lad who helps me, i do it every 2 weeks and never collect because every one is always in. i have about 40 regular customers about ten of whom are monthly and i am due to go and canvass about ten more or so.
So i dont think its right to dismiss council. From time to time you do obviously get customers having money problems which is to be expected but theres usually someone else to pick up and make up for it i find.....best thing about hulme is that about 40% of my custies are sweet old irish ladies who ALWAYS TIP! I've thought about selling the round because i go up every other saturday and sometimes cant be bothered but its such easy money i dont think i could see it go. Also if i go a few days early, so its only been like ten days since last clean they dont seem to care! Maybe im just blessed but if you hit the right estate you can find good work!!!
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Good grief! :o This thread is 4 years old!....must be a record, never seen one resurrected after such a long time before!
You say you can do 6 or 7 an hour, before you get lots of derisory comments about that, just how many windows per house are you talking about?
For me, a £4.00 house would only have 4 windows! And even then I'd charge a tenner as my minimum charge is £10.00.
For those that reply further on this thread, keep the debate sensible please.
Ian
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For me, a £4.00 house would only have 4 windows! And even then I'd charge a tenner as my minimum charge is £10.00.
For those that reply further on this thread, keep the debate sensible please.
Ian
Thats some good sensible advice from Mr Sensible himself, you have to set yourself a sensible minimum price, £10 or more would be sensible!! Is that sensible enough for you Ian? ;D
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Good grief! :o This thread is 4 years old!....must be a record, never seen one resurrected after such a long time before!
Ian
Wow! A better comeback than Lazerus!
Sorry - sensible mode ...
I suppose every two weeks means Wrighty can/could fly around, Ian.
I have a minimum charge of £10 for new customers with the following exception.
I have a council estate that was built in the 1970's to replace prefabs (which was my paper round as a kid!) and the homes are a pleasant mix of terraced bungalows and small houses - so a block of five would have one 2 bed house at each end and three bungalows in the middle. When, three years ago I used a trolley I did the tops of the houses wfp and all the downstairs and bungalows trad.
I charged £6/7 for the houses and £4 for the bungalows and could make about £130 a day trad. and similar trolley wfp/trad. Now I charge £6 for a bungalow and £10 for a house (new) but still have some at £5 and £7 respectively.
Due to the compactness of the round, the small yet proportionally large increase and van wfp (still a little trad for an out of the way bungalow). What was one and a half days work and earnings is now compressed into one day.
I did consider dropping it but due to my present plan of compacting work and having a target of a £200 minimum for a day every full (7hr) day I work it is just viable.
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Thats very sensible!!! ;D