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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: stevef on February 13, 2006, 05:46:56 pm

Title: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 13, 2006, 05:46:56 pm: I looks like I will be needing a 60' pole for a new contract (they are calling my bluff)
I am concerned about using a pole of this length as I have only ever used a 30' pole and I presume that controling it will be dificult. so what are you guys with poles of this size using or recomend ally or carbon ?
Thanks for any replys

Steve
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: poleman on February 13, 2006, 06:28:40 pm: Carbon and its a two man job, you have a pole that height and it went over your do a lot of damage.

OH YES wear some nappys aswell ;D

Andy
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: sair on February 13, 2006, 06:39:43 pm: well said
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: Jeff Brimble on February 13, 2006, 06:42:05 pm: Tucker have announced new finger tighten pole clamps that replace the old ones that needed a special tool.. They will also retrofit all their old poles so I would bear it in mind as alu is comparable to c/f and their poles will go to 80ft
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 13, 2006, 06:47:34 pm: Pole man

what dose the second man do? are you both working the pole from the ground ie four handed? Also I may get away with a slightly shorter pole I have just been looking at the pics I took today and now estimate the height to be about 50' would that still be a two man job? Sorry don't know how to upload pics.

thanks
Steve
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: macc on February 13, 2006, 07:45:52 pm: ive a tucker pole van mount. thanks for the info jeff. the clamps can be a pain but appart from that no complaints. ;D
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: windows_chepstow on February 13, 2006, 07:58:23 pm: Quote from: stevef on February 13, 2006, 06:47:34 pm
Pole man

what dose the second man do? are you both working the pole from the ground ie four handed?

thanks
Steve

I believe that one man handles the pole, and the second moves the hose.

Personally, I wouldn't work higher than 40 foot, the big sensible puff I am.

Working above that height, from what I've read here, it can be extremely frustrating. 30 foot is difficult enough.
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: sair on February 13, 2006, 08:06:11 pm: what does the second man do ,watch the first one struggle !

45 a doddle with the right pole

i do know lads who use and set 60 up by themselves . depends on area and what youll hit half the problems getting it back down
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: poles apart on February 13, 2006, 08:17:46 pm: Quote from: Tosh on February 13, 2006, 07:58:23 pm
Quote from: stevef on February 13, 2006, 06:47:34 pm
Pole man

what dose the second man do? are you both working the pole from the ground ie four handed?

thanks
Steve

I believe that one man handles the pole, and the second moves the hose.

Personally, I wouldn't work higher than 40 foot, the big sensible puff I am.

Working above that height, from what I've read here, it can be extremely frustrating. 30 foot is difficult enough.
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One man holds the pole and the second man moves the building! ;D
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: poleman on February 13, 2006, 08:25:43 pm: Quote from: stevef on February 13, 2006, 06:47:34 pm
Pole man

what dose the second man do? are you both working the pole from the ground ie four handed? Also I may get away with a slightly shorter pole I have just been looking at the pics I took today and now estimate the height to be about 50' would that still be a two man job? Sorry don't know how to upload pics.

thanks
Steve

Hi Steve, cone of the area to be worked at, and make sure its safe to work ( quiet time) once you are happy with this then put the pole up (which can be a two man job) then when the pole is up, you have to use a good amount of concentration looking up and this is where a 2nd man comes in (Banks Man) he moves the hose for you as you move to each window, keeps the public out of the work area and makes sure you don’t trip over, it can be hard work with a big pole, so change over with you 2nd man, I have a team of window cleaners out and the 60ft is used most days, you have to be very careful, if some one gets hit by a pole at this height it could in a worse case kill someone.

Andy
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: gaza on February 13, 2006, 08:28:10 pm: the second man sstannds on the top of the building with a rope attached to the pole and assists with pulling it up and down. ;D

gaza
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 13, 2006, 08:38:25 pm: Thanks guys
I may hve bitten off more than I can chew, I just wish I could show you the pics. as the building is def only 50' tall with only eight windows to clean at the upper level, and it's the first job for a home managment co, so could lead to lots of work but safety must come first!

Steve

Wow done it!
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: williamx on February 13, 2006, 10:37:18 pm: Steve

If you only have to clean them 2 windows next to the balconies, then ask if you can clean them from the balcony, you could either use a back pack and 18' pole or run the hose pipe from the balcony to either a truck or trolley mount system again you will need a 18' pole.
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 13, 2006, 11:05:30 pm: There are about 8 windowsin total at the upper level on all four sides, the balcony windows are not to be cleaned as these are private flats
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Post by: williamx on February 13, 2006, 11:12:16 pm: You could try subbing it out to a wfp cleaner who has a 50' or 60' pole untill you can afford one yourself
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 14, 2006, 08:35:14 am: Affording one is not the problem, it's getting the right one and operating it by myself. I have been looking at some supplyers
who have poles of 50' but with 12' sections how the hell do you set one of those up! my tallest job now is 30' and I can manage that with a G/F pole 5x6' sections so I thought a C/F or ally pole @50' should be posible on my own. I see that the ally poles of this hehght are 8' sections would this be a stugle to put up on my own ?
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: williamx on February 14, 2006, 11:06:22 am: Steve

When do you need the pole by? because if you can wait untill Windex them most of the poles available will be on display and their to try out.

I'm on the look out for a new pole myself and I'm quite interested in the new Unger Pole, which seems to have a quick connection and no internal hose, if that not available or suitable then the next one on the list is a powerpole from ominpole.
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: stevef on February 14, 2006, 12:19:03 pm: I was thinking the same, even looking at the same two poles
hope I can drag it out that long!
Title: Re: carbon or ally pole?
Post by: Moderator David@stives on February 14, 2006, 12:24:13 pm: There is only one safe way and that is with a 50' pole with the area cordened off.

Dave