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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: james roffey on January 31, 2013, 08:02:46 am

Title: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on January 31, 2013, 08:02:46 am
In the space of two weeks i have had two rugs which i cleaned slightly differently both had  urine spillages on them the first was from a small dog the second from a cat the results were very different and i thought i should warn those with less experience of a mistake that i wont make again.

The first one i treated the visible areas identified by turning the rug over with a urine neutraliser a left the stuff to do it's job, the next day i cleaned it job done looked great no smell.

The second i cleaned first i flooded the small areas of visible contamination with the wand and extracted after it was cleaned i treated those area with the same urine neutraliser, job done i thought cleaned out machine as per normal  :-X

Later that evening i popped out when i came back my hallway where i keep my machine reeked like a urinal at a football ground circa 1975   :-X
I spent the next hour or so running the vac hose with bleach, disinfectant, urine neutraliser even though they are plastic hoses i had about five attempts with different chemicals the last thing i tried was lots of water mixed with plenty of detergent, the wand was even more difficult took it out in the garden ran the hose through it that didn't work, that cats pi..  is unbelievable.

Finally after about 90 minutes i got rid off that smell, extracting those areas with plain water first was a BIG MISTAKE I WONT MAKE EVER AGAIN, PHEW  :-[
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Neil Jones on January 31, 2013, 01:05:34 pm
Had the same problem with spilt cream last week, it followed me round alllllllll day!
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on January 31, 2013, 01:57:51 pm
Cant believe how much Prochem urine neutraliser i have used and the smell of ammonia is still present in the rug, what the hell is it with cat urine, if my odour neutraliser were as concentrated a 5 litre container would last years.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on January 31, 2013, 06:07:07 pm
I have re-cleaned it now, took it into my garden put the hose on it for an hour or so spraying the backing and letting it soak through then extracted quite surprised and a little disappointed at the amount of dirt that came out, incredibly the smell is still present but only when you place your nose against the backing.

Did think about refusing to clean this type of soiling again, decided to triple my price instead don't suppose people will want to pay but not going to do this again unless it's worth it, just done a little research and found out that cat urine is ten times as concentrated as dog or human, no wonder Prochem urine neutraliser didn't touch it
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Carpet2Clean on January 31, 2013, 06:19:06 pm
Hi James


I hate cleaning cat spray...Its the after bit cleaning out machine wand etc.


Had 3 jobs last week one human number 2`s (old lady) and the second job was a dog number 2`s on a week old white carpet & the 3rd a cat spray in a one bed flat.

Found Domestos spray bleach work well last week cleaning machine/hose out.



Richard
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 31, 2013, 06:47:49 pm
should try chemspecs urine contamination treatment instead. The prochem stuff is poor imo.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Kev Loomes on January 31, 2013, 07:39:08 pm
should try chemspecs urine contamination treatment instead. The prochem stuff is poor imo.

Agree
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Carpet2Clean on January 31, 2013, 08:00:18 pm
Cheers Tony & Kev

Will give Chemspecs ago




Richard
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: wynne jones on January 31, 2013, 08:30:35 pm
And don't forget a lot of good quality rugs will bleed like hell because of it, so cover yourself. I have had lots of rugs where there is no smell but pee on a corner (can tell by shading) and sneaky custy wasn't going to say.

What you will do next time James is the way to go. Put them in a shallow pit and cover in neat neutraliser for 2-3 hours then put a hose in overnight. Then saturation clean as normal normal the next day. 3x normal price is achievable if you explain whats involved and how you clean the rug all the way through.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on February 01, 2013, 08:32:24 am
Thanks Wynne

Probably achievable of the more expensive rugs, i will also try the Chemspec stuff only ever tried Prochem for this.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Bob Allen on February 02, 2013, 02:28:08 pm
I would recommend Chemspecs urine neutralise too, I beleive impact chemicals do a weaker version on the chemspec stuff (think it is the same product labelled different & cheaper)
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Billy Russell on February 02, 2013, 02:48:53 pm
Yep, chemspec all the way
 :)
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on February 03, 2013, 11:38:14 am
By way of update, i still have a stinking rug !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! even after all i have done , it's no where near as bad but still smells of ammonia unf....ing believable  :P
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Strah on February 03, 2013, 04:05:15 pm
hiya

I  started to do   carpet cleaning few months ago -  and  I always thought that  the  smell I  have  while  cleaning  comes  from chemicals or  machine itself . 

In  fact  the  hose  stinks badly -  never  used do  clean  any urine  or  so -  just  normal  carpet -  a pretty  clean  one . 

Do  you  think the  hose can  absorb the  chemicals  and  thats  why it  stinks ? 

just to  confirm  -  tht  the  chemicals  doesnt  smell at  all (at least not that bad as the hose)  -  and after  I  finish to clean  the  carpet the  room has  a normal odor .  - but  the  hose  gets me  mad  ...   the van also stinks cos  of that.

any  ideas  why s that ?
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on February 03, 2013, 06:32:07 pm
Hoses need to be cleaned out from time to time as does your waste tank, you are removing dirt and filth from peoples carpets left in the hose and waste tank bacteria will grow and this is what smells, i put a little bleach in about two litres of water not too much as it may foam up, and i suck this up the hose using only a couple of vacs insted of three this leaves the hoses and machine smelling nice. You don't want to be taking stinking hosed into customers houses.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Strah on February 03, 2013, 06:51:14 pm
You don't want to be taking stinking hosed into customers houses.
definitely not  : )

thanks  for  your  help 

Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Paul Moss on February 03, 2013, 07:00:06 pm
Only util you understand odours and what causes them, will you be able to identify the remedy and which type of chemical / cleaning system will remove the problem.

Untill then enjoy the smell ;D

On a more serious note and if there is some interest i will do a one hour seminar on the tacca day on odour removal. But be warned it is a bit brain pickling  ;D however if you lsten to me you will fully understand how odours occur and how you can Sucessfully remove them  ;)

Im sure also that another trainer on the day ( John Kelly) is covering fire and flood restoration and will prob cover some aspects of odour removal too.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: The TACCA Scrutineer on February 03, 2013, 11:22:09 pm


On a more serious note and if there is some interest i will do a one hour seminar on the tacca day on odour removal. But be warned it is a bit brain pickling  ;D however if you lsten to me you will fully understand how odours occur and how you can Sucessfully remove them  ;)



pmsl

and what makes you qualify to be the preacher?
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on February 04, 2013, 04:59:44 pm
Tactful as ever, how to win friends and influence people.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: wynne jones on February 04, 2013, 08:10:47 pm
Paul nose his stuff.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: james roffey on February 04, 2013, 08:57:18 pm
I would have thought so too, especially if he's going to lecture about it, he'd look a bloody fool otherwise.
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: *Hector* on February 04, 2013, 09:03:36 pm
I would have thought so too, especially if he's going to lecture about it, he'd look a bloody fool otherwise.

only if his audience know more than he does....  ;D ;D
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Jim_77 on February 06, 2013, 05:59:13 pm
I smell a rat!
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Paul Moss on February 06, 2013, 06:01:44 pm
Yes you do Jimbo

Where have you been??

Somebody told me your all loved up ;D
Title: Re: Word of warning !
Post by: Jim_77 on February 06, 2013, 11:47:31 pm
Been having a bit of a break from the forums, frightening how much of your time it takes up when you count up all the minutes and hours here and there!