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Title: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 08:25:45 pm
hi guys whats the best boilers to use also what are you guys using and how long have they lasted so far? im looking into a new bosh unit over the next few months. probley been covered loads but whats everyone using and how good are they? i know a few people are having problems with the stainless nice looking chineese unit which is not so nice inside. iv got a paloma and will keep everyone posted on that. iv also noticed one on ebay L6 i think it looks like the L5 a few people use but again its a china item with a price of £85 i think from another suposide uk warehouse
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 08:26:13 pm
please excuse my spelling
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Spruce on January 27, 2013, 08:31:01 pm
hi guys whats the best boilers to use also what are you guys using and how long have they lasted so far? im looking into a new bosh unit over the next few months. probley been covered loads but whats everyone using and how good are they? i know a few people are having problems with the stainless nice looking chineese unit which is not so nice inside. iv got a paloma and will keep everyone posted on that. iv also noticed one on ebay L6 i think it looks like the L5 a few people use but again its a china item with a price of £85 i think from another suposide uk warehouse

Why not wait for a bit and see how Dave from Kentkleen gets on with his chinese cheepo.

They won't last forever but are cheap enough to replace every year. At that price back to factory warranty is a no no, but then so is a heater that you import from the states.
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: wightsurf on January 27, 2013, 08:37:13 pm
3rd yr with my L5 ,i have another one sat in the loft for back up.
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 09:09:09 pm
Are U guys using them all year or just in the cold?
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: R.C Property on January 27, 2013, 09:25:07 pm
Only had my L5 heater for 3months now brought from an UK based firm. Paid little more for it but worth it.
I'll be using it all year round I think.
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: steven ainger on January 27, 2013, 09:26:03 pm
I use my fogwash & previously my L5, all year round
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 09:44:26 pm
My pilot light stays on with the paloma should I shut it of between drives save on gas ? Not sure how much it will use tbh. Mite try a bosh unit think it was 230 new but I slide you pay for what U get, maybe even a rianni unit
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Dave Willis on January 27, 2013, 09:52:29 pm
I think you'll find it's against the law to drive with the gas on.  :o
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 09:54:37 pm
Ahhh :-\ of she goes then hopefully the igniter won't jack in with the continuous on and of
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 27, 2013, 10:37:27 pm
My cheepo ;D is going good. I am going to post a review when its got some miles under its belt. Full day supplying two reels on Friday and it was faultless, hope it lasts!!
Remember these units are sold elsewhere for twice the money and over £400 fitted.
 ;D
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 27, 2013, 10:48:34 pm
Kentkleen, keep us posted on it I may try one if mine brakes ;D
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 27, 2013, 11:03:05 pm
I think you'll find it's against the law to drive with the gas on.  :o


I drive with my propex on that
Works off propane
So can't see that as propex heaters
Are designed for on the move
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Dave Willis on January 28, 2013, 07:51:21 am
Hmmm, I could be wrong then. I know they must be off when transporting cylinders. Maybe that only applies for bulk deliveries. Can't be bothered to google it today.
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Spruce on January 28, 2013, 05:32:38 pm
My cheepo ;D is going good. I am going to post a review when its got some miles under its belt. Full day supplying two reels on Friday and it was faultless, hope it lasts!!
Remember these units are sold elsewhere for twice the money and over £400 fitted.
 ;D


I agree - they will be fine mostly or else that company won't fit them. Nat brought up an interesting point recently with regard to those fitting them on their back doors. Each time they close their doors the heater is going to take a bang and reduce it's life.

With yours on the side of the van it shouldn't have a rough ride. I think the most important thing is to ensure that it has been drained down properly every night in the winter if the van isn't heated (which yours I know is).

From what I read the majority of failures are due to freezing.

Have you put your vent in the roof yet?

Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: richard jagger on January 28, 2013, 06:53:07 pm
I had my heater fitted to the back door with no real obvious problems I  never slam the back doors.The think that amazed me was how in just one month the heat exchange got very brittle as it is very thin.The screws holding this part had broken loose.  Its nearly as thin as a think kitchen foil. This is the second one I have had. I am not saying don't buy them, but one needs to be aware of the build quality.
     AS far s draining over night its a must as the brass water valves split if they freeze. I don't remember seeing anything in my instructions about this precaution.
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 28, 2013, 08:40:41 pm
I think perhaps we should be going for a better brand of boiler in my opinion my paloma is doing my head in hose real seems to take ages to heat up then after a wile the water seems to hot to use. Mite use it with my hoselock sub pump to heat the water as it fills the tank ;D how hot can you use the water? Should it hurt you finger when you touch it out the jets?
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 28, 2013, 09:08:32 pm
I bleed mine on a night using an airline, (an old trick from working down the docks, we used to supply ships with fresh water but in winter after supplying we used to blow the lines clear of water with compressed air)
Vent/flue not done yet, worked with van doors open not ideal but let us work a full day to try it out.

IMO the next hot system i will buy will be a diesel fed system, ionics type. Hot water is great too use, hot pipes etc, my cheap heater will last a while and will more than pay for itself but for a more permanent solution I will have too spend some good money!!
Will review the cheapo after some more use! :D
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 28, 2013, 09:38:40 pm
IV ran some aluminium flexible ducting from the heater aiming out the backdoors didn't want a hole in my roof tbh, I couldn't get anythin to seal it so I taped it on with insulation tape a total bodge I know but it didn't get that hot and no sighn of melting burning anything like that and I had it running for a long time
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 28, 2013, 09:43:23 pm
I bleed mine on a night using an airline, (an old trick from working down the docks, we used to supply ships with fresh water but in winter after supplying we used to blow the lines clear of water with compressed air)
Vent/flue not done yet, worked with van doors open not ideal but let us work a full day to try it out.

IMO the next hot system i will buy will be a diesel fed system, ionics type. Hot water is great too use, hot pipes etc, my cheap heater will last a while and will more than pay for itself but for a more permanent solution I will have too spend some good money!!
Will review the cheapo after some more use! :D


How did your hose stand up???
Iv changed to thermobore and tbh
That's not gr8 either
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 28, 2013, 09:51:29 pm
What happens to the hose gav? Split alot easyier etc?
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 28, 2013, 10:11:26 pm
What happens to the hose gav? Split alot easyier etc?

used at first heavy duty 6mm which didnt last long
got a refund fr gardiners and ordered thermobore
its very pliable when even using luke warm
double o ringed it on to swan neck adaptor which didnt hold it
felt like ripping the lot outa the van and tradding lol
and to cap it off on 2nd to last house snapped my clx 18
2nd section not a good day so now will av to order a new
section bout 38 quid +vat not an happy bunny  >:( >:(
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 28, 2013, 10:21:11 pm
These hot water systems are to much hasstle lol I shall use it when it freezes and for first cleans other than that it will be swiched of cnr be bothered lol as long as it saves me on the cold days il be happy
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 28, 2013, 10:24:18 pm
Sorry to hear about your pole gav I know the feeling mate nothing of mine seems to work for very long before a hose splits or fittings leak my pump inlet broke of in the cold had a flow tap snap in half. I hate the winter :'(
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 29, 2013, 08:33:31 pm
I can now confirm that the paloma boiler is good as iv hooked it to the mains and works a treat also on my hoselock submersable pump so the boiler doesn't like the low flow rate of window cleaning systems it will be good to fill the tank with but will take a good hour or so to fill a 400 litre tank, I may get a different boiler yet one that's more suited to the Flo rate
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: paul saunders on January 29, 2013, 08:43:53 pm
I've heard that the cheap Chinese ones work well at a low flow rate.  ;) ;D ;D
Title: Re: best boilers to use
Post by: Deangsi on January 29, 2013, 08:46:19 pm
That doesn't suprise me at all haha I think my next heater will be an l5 or similar unit I will post a link to the boiler iv foand for you guys to look at