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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Gerald Ash on January 26, 2013, 03:02:30 am
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Hi everyone, Newbie here. Just worked out that if I were to charge £7.50 per house & cleaned one house per hour I would earn a good wage.
It gets better, if I charge more, do more then I can work two weeks a month & have two weeks off. :D
I`m fat & old & lazy.
How realistic is this idea to earn a months wage in two weeks?
I`m not taking the p*** I`m serious. Advice please.
Also please give advice on pole work infact any advice would be gratefully recieved.
I will not take work from any other window cleaners on principal.
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I don`t think window cleaning is for you, we don`t need fat lazy buggers in this industry.So why don`t you just go and sign on it sounds more your style. Try cleaning up a ladder in this weather, I don`t think so, you make it sound so easy.
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Yes its soooo simple ....
Good luck with it and while your at it stick ya pole up ya backside .
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So funny, if you had two of you, you could aim for a months work in a week and have three weeks a month off, then sign on for the rest of it.
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Fall off your ladder, claim benefits and never work again. No brainer really. ;)
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Think you're over charging :-)
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Why the hostility? All I want is to earn a living instead of claiming benefits.
I don`t need to earn a fortune & I`ll do a proper job.
At first I`ll work hard to build up a customer base, the two weeks a month will be in the future not immediately. I know it`s not easy I`ve ran a few businesses before so appreciate that you get what you put in.
I apologise if I sounded flippant but I`ve been a carer for over twelve years & now find myself on a job market in my late forties with little chance of employment.
I see an opportunity to build something to earn an honest living.
To be honest at my present health I wouldn`t employ me so it`s my only hope.
Also, anyone thought of cleaning cars with pure water. Would it negate the need to dry the bodywork? Please be kind to a fat old man. ;D
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At £7.50 an hour you would hardly make min wage after expenses.
Also its not a job to be thinking about if not in good health.
Up and down ladders or rowing a pole in all weather you need to be fit.
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Cleaning cars with pure water wont make a difference because
unless you remove all the wax [which you dont want to do]
it will still leave marks if you dont dry.
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Thankyou John, I take that onboard. My relative health is poor but I am able to walk sixteen miles a day so am fit.
Just an idea on cars, glad I didn`t try it.
Also plan to build up services to wheelie bin cleaning car valeting & patio/driveways but am starting with absolutely nothing so will take time.
All I have is a overdraft maxed out & a pair of hands. saving up for equipment to start. Any reccommendations?
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Right you need a little perspective thrown at you.
Any form of self employment is not about making a wage its about running a business. A wage is the last of your worries.
Your first problem is cash-flow. Cash needs to be coming in so you can pay it out, If you dont do your paying out other businesses will avoid you like the plague.
This means before you do anything you need a backup fund of some kind. Read the post on here from the people who cant get out to work cause of the weather.
Your hourly rate has to take into account your overheads. i.e. how much an hour is your transport, insurance, advertising, equipment, Backup fund etc. Then and only then you ned to draw a wage... Oh and you need to take into account the Tax mans share... If you dont do that he will bite you on the arris hard.
Another thing you cant work 40 hours a week as in a normal job. cause you have the windows to do. plus you have to manage all the other aspects of your business. Promotion, collection, doing the books. maintaining the vehicle and kit.. Its all time..
Plus you cannot physically clean glass for 40 hours so when you calculate your hourly rate you have to take into account how much of your working week will be taken up with answering phones, driving between jobs. taking holidays etc.
There is a calculation somewhere that a=in any one man business you will only spend an average of 25 hours on the tools.
So to work out your hourly rate you have to add up all your overheads including your wages, and add a bit for profit and investment in your kit. then divide that number by 1300 (number of hours you can spend on the tools in a year) and that will tell you how much you have to charge every hour you have a pole or a squeegee in your hand...
eg wages 20k. overheads 30k profit 10k total of 60K divide that by 1300 and you need to average of £46 an hour when you are on the glass..... So your working week will cossets of 25 hours where you are earning £46 an hour. But you will have another 30+ hours when you will be running around doing business stuff at £0 per hour.
In short unless you are willing to work your backside off 60 hours a week. go and work for someone.. dont work for yourself..
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Thanks Jim. I intend to work bloody hard & have built up a business before but not at this industry. I`ve worked with customers all my life & have excellant customer skills.
The pay off for hard work is being able to ease off later on, not totally but some.
My intention is to be able to work my nuts off for two weeks then two weeks to relax. If I can do that in three years I`ll be lucky but I`m sure it`ll work. ???
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If it helps Im also getting into this as a part time business. I Will be retiring from my current drudge with a small pension which makes the wages issue easier But I will still have to work to make ends meet
I will be doing a 5 week round working 4 having 1 off.... I couldn't see two weeks grafting two weeks relaxin work , certainly for me. purely due to the overheads running on while the cash aint coming in..
Thats my plan but I know from past experience that It wont stay part time and Ill end up putting every waking moment into it..
It may work It may not but Im giving it a go...
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I have to disagree with you Jim I am a self employed window cleaner I dont
run a business and dont want to, so all I need is a wage after expenses.
I know a window cleaner who got up one morning borrowed a ladder
Paid £30 for some cleaning tools walked out the door and earned a wage.
Didnt even own a car.
He worked put a few pound away each week and built up from there
Work for what you need to earn to be happy nothing else counts.
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John at the end of the end of the day whatever you call it its still a business. you need income, you need to earn enough to make a wage after overheads. and the tax man still wants his chunk.
Its down to the individual how high their overheads are whether it be £30 for a Bucket and a squeegee or a full blown fleet of vans.and whetehr you want / need to build in an elemt for expansion/ rainy day fund or not The principle is the same..
The point I was trying to make is that you have to charge more per hour than just what you would like to put in your pocket.
I appreciate that there are people who do this at many different levels. some part time. some running franchises. but at the end of the day there is more to it than just the hourly rate. price per window.
Im one of them I want a business to top up an income. But I have had to think long and hard about what I need to do and how I need to do it..
What window cleaning does allow is people to start with minimal investment
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Thanks Jim. I intend to work bloody hard & have built up a business before but not at this industry. I`ve worked with customers all my life & have excellant customer skills.
The pay off for hard work is being able to ease off later on, not totally but some.
My intention is to be able to work my nuts off for two weeks then two weeks to relax. If I can do that in three years I`ll be lucky but I`m sure it`ll work.
If you have run a business before then you should fully well know that £7.50 turnover per hour is stupid amount of money .. you might as well just go and work in aldi 2/3 days a week they pay about 8 quid and its warm
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Maybe you should talk to Matt Bateman. He sounds just like you at times.You could even work for him.
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At £7.50 an hour you would hardly make min wage after expenses.
Also its not a job to be thinking about if not in good health.
Up and down ladders or rowing a pole in all weather you need to be fit.
£7.50 an hour you would never earn min wage after expenses.
you need to be fit to be a window cleaner (well semi fit)
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Gerald, welcome to the nuthouse.
As you will have read this game means different things to different people, therefore you can either build a lucrative business, or make a wage to meet your needs. The choice is yours and it doesn't matter if your views differ from others.
If you wish to make £7.50 an hour and it meets your needs, then no one should criticize you for this. However, as has been said, there are overheads to meet which will need to be taken into account. Most guys on here are WFP, for which the overheads are higher, or you could start by going trad (far cheaper and will get you started).
If you haven't done window cleaning before, it may be an idea to gain some experience by helping a windy with his own work, or you could practise on your own windows and build up some confidence. It will also give you an idea how long it takes to do a house like yours and gauge how much you could charge/earn from similar houses.
Best wishes,
John
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Once I have the tools the only expenses will be rubbers & other consumables. I will be walking to the estates where I will work so no car/van expenses.
As I`ve said starting with nothing, I only quote £7.50 as at that amount it would be possible to survive but I want to live & at the moment life is a misery.
I will succeed in this because I don`t need to earn a fortune so can build up slowly if that`s the way it goes.
Everyone has to start from somewhere, if I had a few thousand to take lots of training & buy a nice profitable round I would but at present I have eighty pence to my name.
Every single person here once cleaned their first window for their first customer without the knowledge they have now.
My biggest assets are I`m as strong as an ox & bloody minded so that will see through if nothing else & as I`ve said I will not take work from others because I wouldn`t like people to do it to me.
Believe it or not I could survive on one house but rather do that every thirty mins
Thanks for that Johnny b, I`ll get there & you never know this time next year I could be a millionaire. 8)
Earning a decent wage after expenses would suffice though.
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Gerard when you hit the bottom the only way to go is up.
Go for it what have you to loose. Just take extra care when working from a ladder
stay safe and Best of luck.
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They won't be your only expense what about tax and NI?
Admittedly at your predicted earnings there shouldn't be too much tax.
What are your goals?
One minute you want 2 weeks off a month next your willing to do 60 hour weeks.
You also have health problems that doesn't go with window cleaning.
If i was you I'd go to Tesco you get a guaranteed wage for less hassle even if you're sick.
Not to mention safer, ladders on hard surfaces aren't much fun between October and April.
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Thanks for that Johnny b, I`ll get there & you never know this time next year I could be a millionaire. 8)
Earning a decent wage after expenses would suffice though.
Don't let anyone convince you that you can't succeed. You can, and will, with enough determination.
When I sold up and moved to Ireland 18 months ago, some very well meaning friends didn't believe that I could build a run of residential customers up, as there supposedly wan't sufficient demand, as well as the country being in the toilet economically. Being the good friends they are, they are all happy that I have proved them wrong.
John
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You'll end up very happy coming in with the idea of earning £7.50 per house and doing 1 per hour.
You will find after a few months (if not earlier) that you are cleaning way more than 1 house per hour. Result. ;D
I'm not sure if you are joking, but you'll do ok if you have low expectations. It's usually the people with high expectations that will give up.
Go for it. You'll be entitled to working tax credit as well.
I want to earn a bit more than £7.50 per hour but am in agreement that window cleaning is a great job for you if you want to earn some extra money.
The hardest part of it is making that 1st step from thinking to doing. After that it sorta falls into place really. Easy peasy.
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Maybe you should talk to Matt Bateman. He sounds just like you at times.You could even work for him.
What Richard?
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Thanks guys. No ladders as they are only rated upto 150KG & I`m way over that plus s**t scared of heights which means I get nervous standing up at my stature.
Poles to start with then maybe wfp.
As to the two weeks off, that`s way in the future preceded by bloody hard work. I`m lazy but I know that to be able to be lazy you have to work hard first.
I intend to sew the seeds for a bone idle two weeks with two weeks, including sat & sun, of constant work.
If it doesn`t work then I`ll be better off anyway.
:D
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Hi everyone, Newbie here. Just worked out that if I were to charge £7.50 per house & cleaned one house per hour I would earn a good wage.
It gets better, if I charge more, do more then I can work two weeks a month & have two weeks off. :D
I`m fat & old & lazy.
How realistic is this idea to earn a months wage in two weeks?
I`m not taking the p*** I`m serious. Advice please.
Also please give advice on pole work infact any advice would be gratefully recieved.
I will not take work from any other window cleaners on principal.
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I've been cleaning windows for nearly 8 years now and I can tell you as a 30 year old bloke it hard work.
Anyone can be a window cleaner but it getting the work and pricing it right, my advice would be see if you can work with a window cleaner for a day so you can get the feel of the job.
You got to be fit cos it a tiring work if you're planing to to work on ladders all day, 5 or 6 days a week and the weather is not always kind.
I kinda getting the impression you think it will be easy money but anyway best of luck
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I know it`s going to be hard, that`s why you can earn good money & why everyone isn`t doing it.
Anything worth doing is hard. If it wasn`t it wouldn`t be worth doing.
I`ve worked hard, try shoe making thats hard work. coal deliveries.
I`m not scared of hard work, just don`t like it but if it gets you where you want to be then fine.
I`m serious about this & I will do it & be successful.
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I know it`s going to be hard, that`s why you can earn good money & why everyone isn`t doing it.
Anything worth doing is hard. If it wasn`t it wouldn`t be worth doing.
I`ve worked hard, try shoe making thats hard work. coal deliveries.
I`m not scared of hard work, just don`t like it but if it gets you where you want to be then fine.
I`m serious about this & I will do it & be successful.
Nothing is stopping you from doing it if that what you really want to do... but let me give you a small advice, forget earning £7.50 an hour because that is poor and I mean p*ss poor money. The reason I am telling you this because you will probably well end up undercutting a lot of windows cleaners work if you are prepared to clean people windows for £7.50 which take you a hour to clean.
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He is having you lot on ::) ::)
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Gerald your typing style sure looks familiar, you also spell some of the same words wrong as does another member on here, punctuation mistakes too.
Could just be a coincidence though.
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I know it`s going to be hard, that`s why you can earn good money & why everyone isn`t doing it.
Anything worth doing is hard. If it wasn`t it wouldn`t be worth doing.
I`ve worked hard, try shoe making thats hard work. coal deliveries.
I`m not scared of hard work, just don`t like it but if it gets you where you want to be then fine.
I`m serious about this & I will do it & be successful.
If you are walking to your custies it will add further time where you are not earning. Do you live in a town or out in the sticks?
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Walking so leave early, no time lost, leave for home at five, no time lost.
If you can earn twenty pounds per hour then you can earn enough to work two weeks a month, fact.
40 hours a week at £7.50 would be enough for me. Is it possible to average £7.50 per hour over a year with all the weather can throw at us.
That equates to earning £20 per hour only working 37.5% of the working time (2080 hours per year) 780 hours per year.
If I`m wrong what`s the worst that can happen, I`ll earn a decent wage. Win win as far as I`m concerned.
Come on guys tell me how to achieve it not how it can`t be done.
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Walking so leave early, no time lost, leave for home at five, no time lost.
I leave at five everyday but it's going dark this time of year and most people just want to have their tea, watch Eggheads and not be mithered by their window cleaner.
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Gerald, where abouts in glos are you? Might be able to help
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I started I 2007 with nowt, I had a ladder and bought ten scrims
Ten microfibres , bucket on belt, mop n squeegee , long pole for
Doing over conservatories and a bucket . Oh and a small
Tass cooker to heat water for tea or bucket :-)
I leafleted 3 local estates every month for a year and put
Adds in local mags too. Started with min price of £10
But soon found that to be too cheap so upted it to £12.
Now use price list .
First ten jobs or so I would do one or two a day so I was seen
Locally always working , usually 8:30 am lunch time or schools
Out . Word of mouth took over and now 5 years on I have a good
Round. I paid myself half of what I earned and bought kit with
Other half, wfp was clearly the way to go so after 18 months
Fitted a tank and pump to van and rest is history.
So yes you can make £7.50 per hour profit .
Good luck with your round
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Matt thought you were at it again playing the newbie game. It seemed like your work.
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The guy using the ID Matt Bateman isn't Matt Bateman. Matt Bateman is so undercover on here, even he doesn't know what his ID is. ;D
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:D
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If all, its entertaining its a break from the B/s and ego.
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give the guy a break ???
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I've never read such a load of rubbish, I think someones having a joke.
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For crying out loud why do people think I`m winding you all up. I want to earn a living not a fortune, how is that so hard to believe?
I`m not stupid but I have a lack of experience concerning this industry.
I have certain disadvantages; 1, I am huge, I mean really big so ladders are a no no. 2,I have recently been extremely ill infact close to death so I have a different outlook on life now, if I have shelter, warmth & food I`m happy. 3, My age makes it difficult to find work plus see me & think I won`t be able to move or work hard.
I lived in Weston-s-m until recently & had an appointment at Musgrove Park in Taunton. No money so I walked there & back. 60 miles in 24 hours.
To Steve Rix I`m in Gloucester its self & can reach your area no problem & would appreciate the help.
Take me seriously fellas as I am very serious. This is a resource for help not derision.
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How huge are you? I think you'll find it very hard to clean windows to a high standard using a pole with a squeegy on the end. I've seen one guy doing it with a wagtail but it must have taken years to master.
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I don't know if you are trying to convince us you can do it or yourself? :-\
You said you are too heavy for ladders and you are saving up to buy basic equipment.
You are planning on using a squeegee on the end of a pole for upstairs windows.
The other problem facing you is that you say you will walk the round. That can be done but to make it worthwhile the work will have to be compact.
Personally I think the odds are against you making it work but stranger things have happened.
Why don't you try buying some basic equipment and seeing how you go?
Then come back and ask for further advice on technique etc.
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I don`t need to convince anyone especially myself. I came on here to get an idea of others thoughts on the principal.
Maybe I`ll never be able to work just two weeks a month but nobody can tell me I won`t earn myself a living. I still think it`s possible but we`ll see.
If I`m wrong then I`ll come on here & confess so.
I`ll report on here how I do.
In answer to how huge, 6`3" & 225KG but I`m strong & fit I`m not your typical fat knacker.
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There's nothing wrong with thinking he can earn enough for his needs in about 12 working days a month. I get by on about that. I have no more mortgage to pay and I don't take expensive hols etc. I'm in this game for lifestyle and free time.
I was ambitious when I first started and employed and did big commercial stuff. However, if all you want is lifestyle and free time, this is the game to be in. It takes a couple of years hard graft to get where you want to get, but it's great when you get there.
Just don't expect to get there next week.
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If you only have 80 pence how do you feed that Huge Body of Yours??? ::)
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225 Kilo is 35 stone :o :o
Perhaps the aim is to lose weight, rather than earn a living but it would make sense to combine the two.
If your basic needs are low, then there is no reason why you shouldn't achieve both your aims.
You really do need to think about your intention to clean with a traditional pole, though. That is a skill that could take you many months to perfect and in the early stages you are never going to be able to achieve an acceptable quality to justify charging for your services. Can I suggest you have a rucksack (or similar) full of dry rags (towelling is fine) and obtain an appliance called a 'fixiclamp' to go in the top of your pole. You can then wipe around the edges of each pane to remove the mess a squeegee will leave.
Initially practice getting the majority of the pane to an acceptable standard by swab and squeegee alone. There is a pole called 'Mr Longarm' which is popular in the States and has a curved top section which swivels through 360 degrees - it takes a lot of practice to master, but there is a video on the internet to help you - try the link below, it will be there somewhere.
www.mrlongarm.com/
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I don`t need to convince anyone especially myself. I came on here to get an idea of others thoughts on the principal.
Maybe I`ll never be able to work just two weeks a month but nobody can tell me I won`t earn myself a living. I still think it`s possible but we`ll see.
If I`m wrong then I`ll come on here & confess so.
I`ll report on here how I do.
In answer to how huge, 6`3" & 225KG but I`m strong & fit I`m not your typical fat knacker.
Go on then I'll bite,
Try starting a round in the next county, this will help with the weight loss walking there with your ladders and running back when your chased off someones patch. win win.
Rucksacks are always for snap.
Good luck though
Art
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lol ive walked 72 miles in 23 1/2 hours and find it hard to believe a 35 stone human being can do similar.
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Am considering a wfp now that some have pointed out the skill needed with trad pole.
As to my weight I`m not all fat & a fair bit of muscle contributes to that weight.
Can anyone suggest a trolley system & is it possible to just put the water through a di filter?
I did walk 60 miles in 24 hours but I admit I was in pain for a few days after but I did it.
Obviously weight loss would be a welcome bonus.
Also sorry to the person I phoned & peed off. Oops.
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Am considering a wfp now that some have pointed out the skill needed with trad pole.
As to my weight I`m not all fat & a fair bit of muscle contributes to that weight.
Can anyone suggest a trolley system & is it possible to just put the water through a di filter?
I did walk 60 miles in 24 hours but I admit I was in pain for a few days after but I did it.
Obviously weight loss would be a welcome bonus.
Also sorry to the person I phoned & peed off. Oops.
trad pole would be far easier to learn than wfp
Trolley from purefreedom you would need to know the tds of your water to see if it is soft or hard this would answer the di question
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You're on a none starter with a trad pole IMO. You might get the odd ones to a good standard but there are just too many variable obstacles against it & to suggest it could work, especially for someone with zero experience is very poor advice IMO. Back pack or small trolley would be the way to go IMO. ;)
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thought this was a thread about earings, I know they're a popular window cleaner accessory..
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225 Kilo is 35 stone :o :o
Perhaps the aim is to lose weight, rather than earn a living but it would make sense to combine the two.
If your basic needs are low, then there is no reason why you shouldn't achieve both your aims.
You really do need to think about your intention to clean with a traditional pole, though. That is a skill that could take you many months to perfect and in the early stages you are never going to be able to achieve an acceptable quality to justify charging for your services. Can I suggest you have a rucksack (or similar) full of dry rags (towelling is fine) and obtain an appliance called a 'fixiclamp' to go in the top of your pole. You can then wipe around the edges of each pane to remove the mess a squeegee will leave.
Initially practice getting the majority of the pane to an acceptable standard by swab and squeegee alone. There is a pole called 'Mr Longarm' which is popular in the States and has a curved top section which swivels through 360 degrees - it takes a lot of practice to master, but there is a video on the internet to help you - try the link below, it will be there somewhere.
www.mrlongarm.com/
Now thats a advice you should take, cause its coming from the MASTER.
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225 Kilo is 35 stone :o :o
Perhaps the aim is to lose weight, rather than earn a living but it would make sense to combine the two.
If your basic needs are low, then there is no reason why you shouldn't achieve both your aims.
You really do need to think about your intention to clean with a traditional pole, though. That is a skill that could take you many months to perfect and in the early stages you are never going to be able to achieve an acceptable quality to justify charging for your services. Can I suggest you have a rucksack (or similar) full of dry rags (towelling is fine) and obtain an appliance called a 'fixiclamp' to go in the top of your pole. You can then wipe around the edges of each pane to remove the mess a squeegee will leave.
Initially practice getting the majority of the pane to an acceptable standard by swab and squeegee alone. There is a pole called 'Mr Longarm' which is popular in the States and has a curved top section which swivels through 360 degrees - it takes a lot of practice to master, but there is a video on the internet to help you - try the link below, it will be there somewhere.
www.mrlongarm.com/
Had a look & looks good. easier to use than wagtail by the looks of it. Thanks for that advice.
This has gone from earnings to other matters but heyho.
One of my best skills is that I`m brilliant in bed.
Go straight to sleep, don`t bother anybody.
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you havent got a chance mate if you think you can clean all upper windows with a squeegee on a pole.i used one for awkward windows when i was trad but its slow and takes time to do a good job.it only works on large plate glass windows generally and even then you cant clean the frames properly.
i think you need to find some money from somewhere and buy a backpack,trolley and a budget hybrid pole and light brush.DI and barrels.
seriously if you are 35 stone i reckon you are gonna struggle big time.window cleaning is hard work even with wfp.if your committed to a better diet,exercise then you have got a chance.
if you admit your a big fat lazy git then window cleaning is not for you unless you have a drastic change of attitude and lifestyle.
the simple fact is you cannot be lazy in this game if you want to make a living out of it.
very best wishes
dazmond
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you havent got a chance mate if you think you can clean all upper windows with a squeegee on a pole.i used one for awkward windows when i was trad but its slow and takes time to do a good job.it only works on large plate glass windows generally and even then you cant clean the frames properly.
i think you need to find some money from somewhere and buy a backpack,trolley and a budget hybrid pole and light brush.DI and barrels.
seriously if you are 35 stone i reckon you are gonna struggle big time.window cleaning is hard work even with wfp.if your committed to a better diet,exercise then you have got a chance.
if you admit your a big fat lazy git then window cleaning is not for you unless you have a drastic change of attitude and lifestyle.
the simple fact is you cannot be lazy in this game if you want to make a living out of it.
very best wishes
dazmond
very good post Daz ;)
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Well guys, I have a friend who is going to give one hundred pounds to start the business. The reason is he`s read all the comments & his words were, "you`re the most stubborn bloody minded f#'@er I`ve ever known & if they say you can`t do it I know you`ll succeed just to spite them".
Not sure if that`s a good thing but it`ll give me a start.
Thanks for all the advice from you all.
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Gerry were do you thinking of starting your round? :'( :'( :'(
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In the nearest Pub ;D ;D
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Go on Gerald, show the sceptics that you can do it!
I was told that I would struggle to get enough work when I moved to Ireland. Guess what, I've worked hard and proved it can be done.
Best wishes,
John
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Windowwashers
"trad pole would be far easier to learn than wfp"
What a load of tripe!
If poling was easier than wfp then nobody would bother with the expense of a van and system.
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Windowwashers
"trad pole would be far easier to learn than wfp"
What a load of tripe!
If poling was easier than wfp then nobody would bother with the expense of a van and system.
I think Ian was winding him up!
Either that or trying to frighten him off making him think learning to clean windows by any means is far too difficult ;D
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you havent got a chance mate if you think you can clean all upper windows with a squeegee on a pole.i used one for awkward windows when i was trad but its slow and takes time to do a good job.it only works on large plate glass windows generally and even then you cant clean the frames properly.
i think you need to find some money from somewhere and buy a backpack,trolley and a budget hybrid pole and light brush.DI and barrels.
seriously if you are 35 stone i reckon you are gonna struggle big time.window cleaning is hard work even with wfp.if your committed to a better diet,exercise then you have got a chance.
if you admit your a big fat lazy git then window cleaning is not for you unless you have a drastic change of attitude and lifestyle.
the simple fact is you cannot be lazy in this game if you want to make a living out of it.
very best wishes
dazmond
how do these backpack systems work mate?im just getting started and doing it all trad at the min,gona go wfp ASAP but might not be for 12 months or so,whats the best stuff to buy for the backpack set up and what exactly would i need?if its not too exspensive i may be tempted to go for it until i can afford a proper wfp set up
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Well got the wagtail delivered today. It`s easy don`t know what you guys are on about, done the upstairs window perfectly first time.
Now back down to earth, bugger me it`s difficult. getting better but not uoto standard yet. I went for the wagtail because having absolutely no experience I thought I might as well start off with one. I now know a ordinary squeegee would have quicker to learn but you live & learn. Always have been one that has to learn the hard way.
I`ll get there, already got my first customer, it`s myself but you got to start somewhere.
You may laugh but no pointing & laughing. ???