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Title: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: Ian101 on January 24, 2013, 07:41:43 pm
just found this on Daily Mail .... anyone know him from Harrow North London ?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2267780/Private-pension-crisis-Raymond-Hollingsworth-wrote-suicide-note-threw-canal-bridge.html
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Post by: Dora Jarr on January 24, 2013, 10:02:14 pm
No.
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Post by: poleman on January 24, 2013, 10:32:41 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: wpclean on January 24, 2013, 10:36:07 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
You obviously no nothing about depression !
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on January 24, 2013, 10:42:44 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
I'm afraid you just proved yourself to be ignorant. Not my opinion, it's a fact.  :-[
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: lee_dewing on January 24, 2013, 10:45:55 pm
Very sad, sucide rate has nearly trebled in this country from what the paper says  :o
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Post by: G Griffin on January 24, 2013, 10:49:20 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
You obviously no nothing about depression !

Correct  :-\.
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: poleman on January 24, 2013, 10:52:50 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
You obviously no nothing about depression !

Yes... as I wonted to take my life about 6 / 7 years ago but beat depression! it does say that he was not depressed! Forcing people to live with you're suicide is selfish
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: G Griffin on January 24, 2013, 10:56:26 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
You obviously no nothing about depression !

Yes... as I wonted to take my life about 6 / 7 years ago but beat depression! it does say that he was not depressed! Forcing people to live with you're suicide is selfish

It doesn't mean he wasn't depressed.
Who knows what frame of mind he was in.
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on January 24, 2013, 11:02:32 pm
Taking your own life is not a 'normal' action, regardless of the circumstances. Very sad for him and his family. I'm glad for those who beat depression though. It is very hard work.
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: gary999 on January 24, 2013, 11:07:26 pm
it is sad for him and his family he was obviously deeply troubled
but it is a selfish act :(
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: G Griffin on January 24, 2013, 11:13:23 pm
it is sad for him and his family he was obviously deeply troubled
but it is a selfish act :(

I suppose you could say the act is selfish but necessarily the bloke.
He could have done it not being himself. If you're really ill, your thoughts could get really bad.
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: poleman on January 24, 2013, 11:14:21 pm
selfish man and sad for the family
You obviously no nothing about depression !

Yes... as I wonted to take my life about 6 / 7 years ago but beat depression! it does say that he was not depressed! Forcing people to live with you're suicide is selfish

It doesn't mean he wasn't depressed.
Who knows what frame of mind he was in.

The problem with most of west society is they put there self worth in material goods and money, I think his problem from reading the link was he didnt show his feelings and thats sad when you have a loving family
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: richywilts on January 24, 2013, 11:17:39 pm
thing is with depression people put on a brave face in front of people i know i did but it when your alone and your mind begins to wander and think to yourself, ive been dealing with mine now and feel much better
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 24, 2013, 11:23:16 pm
thing is with depression people put on a brave face in front of people i know i did but it when your alone and your mind begins to wander and think to yourself, ive been dealing with mine now and feel much better

Thinking of topping ya sen wilts???
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: lal on January 24, 2013, 11:30:45 pm
This poor man obviously could not deal with his financial problems, did not seek professional help and sadly

took his own life,  R.I.P  :(
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Post by: richywilts on January 24, 2013, 11:55:13 pm
no gav but was pretty low last year mate not myself and i knew it gettin bk to my good old jolly self now tho 3 ectasy tabs a day and i love everyone ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on January 25, 2013, 05:32:24 am
no gav but was pretty low last year mate not myself and i knew it gettin bk to my good old jolly self now tho 3 ectasy tabs a day and i love everyone ;D ;D ;D

ecept wirral guy lol ;D
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: richard jagger on January 25, 2013, 07:13:58 am
I can see were one can think its selfish, but the poor man was not himself. I feel for the family.Its so easy to judge another mans reasoning.But until you are in his shoes its better to say nothing.I am sure  this man would not have wished this if he was in good medical care.
Rest in peace fellow windy.
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Post by: AuRavelling79 on January 25, 2013, 11:03:00 am
Strong silent type that was too proud to ask for help? Many men are like that - making mistakes, covering up, putting on a brave face. Maybe not taking advice or asking for it from wife and family, thinking it makes them appear weak?

It's good to talk.
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Post by: Johnny B on January 25, 2013, 12:33:11 pm
Very sad story.

No-one knows what the poor man was going through, and if he was able to keep his innermost thoughts from his family, then whatever burden he was carrying he kept to himself, likely trying to protect his loved ones.

I lost a very dear friend (a fellow windy) to suicide 3 years ago. He was a lovely, lovely man who wouldn't hurt a fly or say anything negative about anybody. He had a very supportive wife and family, yet was unable to cope with the causes of the clinical depression that he had suffered with for a number of years.

A few days before he took his life, I said I would be there if he needed a friend to talk to, day or night. Sadly that was the last time I saw him.

Do I believe he was selfish? Not in the slightest. He was seriously ill and couldn't cope with it any more. Only he really knew how he was feeling at that darkest of moments.
 
John    
Title: Re: London window cleaner suicide
Post by: bumper on January 25, 2013, 01:16:59 pm
To take your own life is not very easy you to put rope round your neck climb on chair and jump off some people do it wrong and takes them 20 mins to die in complete
Agony chocking.