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Title: the winter of 1963
Post by: bobplum on January 20, 2013, 10:48:03 am
did anyone see the programme last night about the winter of 63 on bbc 2
do you know anyone who was a cleaner in those days

nothing moved for about 2 months
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Jack Harris on January 20, 2013, 10:54:28 am
My grandad was mate although he never mentioned the winter of 63 to me.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Neil Gornall on January 20, 2013, 11:04:21 am
I was born in May that year.

My mum wouldn't let me out to clean coz my nappy froze.




I wear Thermal ones now  ;) 
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Steve Sed on January 20, 2013, 11:12:35 am
My granddad was window cleaning then in Liverpool. I was born in '63, but don't remember much about that year.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 20, 2013, 11:17:44 am
Maybe DAI will remember it? He is about 70 I dont know if he was cleaning windows that far back?
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: EandM on January 20, 2013, 02:53:42 pm
Saw the program.
Started snowing before christmas and bar about one week didn't stop again until March.
People were a bit more hardy then !
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: G Griffin on January 20, 2013, 03:07:32 pm
I had to have a month off because of the snow, only three winters ago. And many more were the same. It was great on here; people were were 'losing it'  :D.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: trevor perry on January 20, 2013, 04:03:26 pm
my dads was cleaning in 1963 and was one of only two window cleaners who kept working through out the winter in this area, he carried his ladders on his shoulders to all areas sometimes walking 5 miles at a time, on commercial work carrying a 40 ft this distance, no squeegees then only mop and scrim and to stop them freezing he would sprinkle them with metholated spirit.
  he had only been going a couple of years so was skint and so had to work, his hands became severely cracked especially between the thumb and fingers due to wringing out scrims and on a few occasions stitched the cracks up with a normal needle and thread when he got home, i dont think they make characters like him anymore, he can still keep up with majority of windowcleaners now on a ladder even though he is 75 years old.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 20, 2013, 04:19:29 pm
my dads was cleaning in 1963 and was one of only two window cleaners who kept working through out the winter in this area, he carried his ladders on his shoulders to all areas sometimes walking 5 miles at a time, on commercial work carrying a 40 ft this distance, no squeegees then  only mop and scrim and to stop them freezing he would sprinkle them with metholated spirit.
  he had only been going a couple of years so was skint and so had to work, his hands became severely cracked especially between the thumb and fingers due to wringing out scrims and on a few occasions stitched the cracks up with a normal needle and thread when he got home, i dont think they make characters like him anymore, he can still keep up with majority of windowcleaners now on a ladder even though he is 75 years old.

funny isnt it, they had squeegees as early as 1938 in the usa as i have just seen them in the empire state video. it took ALOT longer for things to make it across the pond back then!
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Nick_Thompson on January 20, 2013, 04:20:51 pm
Trevor, An amazing anecdote from your father's day. Their generation seemed to be made of different stuff.

 Nick
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: trevor perry on January 20, 2013, 04:27:52 pm
my dads was cleaning in 1963 and was one of only two window cleaners who kept working through out the winter in this area, he carried his ladders on his shoulders to all areas sometimes walking 5 miles at a time, on commercial work carrying a 40 ft this distance, no squeegees then  only mop and scrim and to stop them freezing he would sprinkle them with metholated spirit.
  he had only been going a couple of years so was skint and so had to work, his hands became severely cracked especially between the thumb and fingers due to wringing out scrims and on a few occasions stitched the cracks up with a normal needle and thread when he got home, i dont think they make characters like him anymore, he can still keep up with majority of windowcleaners now on a ladder even though he is 75 years old.

funny isnt it, they had squeegees as early as 1938 in the usa as i have just seen them in the empire state video. it took ALOT longer for things to make it across the pond back then!

whilst cleaning a school in the 60s there was a caretaker who told my dad that he had lived in america, he claimed to have done all sorts of jobs from a rodeo rider and other wacky things, he also claimed he had cleaned the empire state building and went on to describe a squeegee, my dad thought he was just a bull crapper untill a few years later unger came over to this country doing demonstrations of squeegees even using them on 30ft poles
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Steve Sed on January 20, 2013, 05:01:35 pm
my dads was cleaning in 1963 and was one of only two window cleaners who kept working through out the winter in this area, he carried his ladders on his shoulders to all areas sometimes walking 5 miles at a time, on commercial work carrying a 40 ft this distance, no squeegees then  only mop and scrim and to stop them freezing he would sprinkle them with metholated spirit.
  he had only been going a couple of years so was skint and so had to work, his hands became severely cracked especially between the thumb and fingers due to wringing out scrims and on a few occasions stitched the cracks up with a normal needle and thread when he got home, i dont think they make characters like him anymore, he can still keep up with majority of windowcleaners now on a ladder even though he is 75 years old.

funny isnt it, they had squeegees as early as 1938 in the usa as i have just seen them in the empire state video. it took ALOT longer for things to make it across the pond back then!

It's weird, but my dad window cleaned until about '82 but only used a squeegee on shops. Unfortunately he isn't around to ask why.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 20, 2013, 05:03:50 pm
wfp in the 50's in usa too!
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Ian Lancaster on January 20, 2013, 05:58:42 pm
I remember the winter of '63 ;D

I was 18 and in my last year at school - upper sixth at Gravesend Grammar.

None of this wimpy "School closed, lack of heating/teachers can't get in" etc.  We were expected to carry on as normal.  

A few years before the start of my window cleaning career - if you'd told me then what I was going to be doing for the majority of my working life I would have called you a ********* ;D

People did a lot more walking in those days, only the well off had cars so a couple of feet of snow on the ground was just a nuisance, not the catastrophe it would be today.

On the subject of squeegees, they were introduced by Scott Young of SYR Research.  He went to America and got an exclusive deal with Ettore Steccone to market them in the UK.  He had enormous trouble trying to convince British shiners that sqeegees were better - they just laughed at him and told him to go away.

In desperation he hired a taxi for a few weeks, then drove around London looking for window cleaners at work.  Every time he saw one he made the driver stop, leapt out of the cab with a bucket, mop and squeegee and ran up to where the window cleaner was working.  He swabbed, squeegeed and detailed the window then leaped back in his cab and drove off without saying anything.

After a few weeks London was buzzing with stories about the "Phantom Window Cleaner"

That was the making of him, the rest is history - he became the first British window cleaning millionaire.  

I heard the man himself tell that story at a NFMW&GC exhibition in the late 90's, the first year Craig Mawlam gave a talk on how he had developed his business OTT (before he started Ionic BWCA etc)
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: brynley on January 20, 2013, 06:31:08 pm
i don't remember the winter of 1963, but i remember 1967 walking to school with snow up to my knee's.
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: bobplum on January 20, 2013, 08:20:26 pm
Ian what a brilliant story
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: lee_dewing on January 21, 2013, 12:28:06 am
Spoke to 1 of my custies before xmas.

He was 18 and just started working for his dad who was a builder said his dad and his self couldn't work for 8 weeks outside temp and snow meant they couldn't mix cement up to lay bricks :o

I remember also on here a couple of years ago wa it winter 09-10
we had a month off but that was timing of snow either side of xmas then following winter nov 10
it snowed was -10 at night, then snowed again next month, dec.

Did i remember that right.
Feb 2012 snowed just lost under a week.

let's hope this is the same, hope it rains hard soon quickest way rid.
but temps low this week some sites say 4c others say 0-1c daytime temps who do you beleive  :-\
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: lee_dewing on January 21, 2013, 12:40:52 am
I've been a windy since 2003 i think :-\

Almost every year a custie has told me it's gonna be the coldest winter for 100 yrs.

I think they have only got weather records for 100 yrs anyway.

I hope this is the usual 2 weeks disruption winter throws at us.

someone on here said a few years back save £20 a week snow fund and that they always allowed 2 weeks choas in winter happening anywhere from nov-march.

I'm sure it was the die hard ladder user on here that had quite a lot of heated discussions with fellow windies on here. ;D
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: bobplum on January 21, 2013, 07:18:04 am
i usually save about £1200 but this year going to make it £2000 and thinking of an extra stream of revenue to long alongside window cleaning...........if any one knows of one let me know ;D
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Spruce on January 21, 2013, 07:26:14 am
i usually save about £1200 but this year going to make it £2000 and thinking of an extra stream of revenue to long alongside window cleaning...........if any one knows of one let me know ;D

The Americans gave the game away a few weeks ago. The suggestion was to mint a trillion dollar coin and pay it into the federal bank account to ease their outstanding debt. They allegedly considered and now discounted the idea, but I wouldn't be surprised if it happened on the quiet.

Now, none of us would need to mint a trillion dollar coin, .....................................   ;)



 
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Spruce on January 21, 2013, 07:40:31 am
Yes I do very clearly remember the winter of 1963. It was typical of every winter I could remember.

Our mother would insist we didn't leave the house without a thin Jersey that we invariably discarded on the walk to school. Often we tried to slink out the front door without it as it was too much trouble carrying it around.

We went to school in shorts as we did in summer, and there was no heating in the classroom.
There were only the occasional days that were overcast; the sun mostly shone every day with hardly a cloud in the sky. The sky was always blue.

The ground wasn’t wet as it hadn’t rained for 2 months and wouldn't rain for another 3 months.

But things were different  living just south of the equator.  :)
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Roy Harding on January 21, 2013, 07:57:38 am
In 1963 we had a small farm in the south Herefordshire boarders the snow filled the roads as high as the hedges, it was great fun walking to school. Of course in those days the Head master lived in the village.

The snow plough's the council had were no good because they only pushed the snow to the side of the road, but as the roads were full to the hedges, there was no were to push it. The village was cut off for about 6wks until they got a snow blower that shot the snow in the air over into the fields.

Roy
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: Ian101 on January 21, 2013, 08:29:14 am
i usually save about £1200 but this year going to make it £2000 and thinking of an extra stream of revenue to long alongside window cleaning...........if any one knows of one let me know ;D

maybe you could try male escorting ?
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: bobplum on January 21, 2013, 10:44:52 am
i usually save about £1200 but this year going to make it £2000 and thinking of an extra stream of revenue to long alongside window cleaning...........if any one knows of one let me know ;D

maybe you could try male escorting ?

the idea of escorting a male sounds.............actually quite intrigiung ;D
Title: Re: the winter of 1963
Post by: lee_dewing on January 21, 2013, 11:18:39 am
Inside window cleaning.
As someone on here did text all customers maybe say usually charge double  but 50% discount at the mo.

Or do as sunshine windowcleaning does get third+ custies on standing order promise 10 cleans a year setup over 12 months.

I get round on a 5 week cycle, tell everyone monthly but looking at george program 10 cleans is about right.

So if standing order setup money coming in every month ;)

Or go into snow clearing ;D