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Title: backpack filling again
Post by: Richard60 on January 19, 2013, 02:53:33 pm
hi guys .at moment i use barrells to fill up backpack .s
if i put a tank in van what would be a quick way to fill up backpacks from tank .with the tank in van it would be less humping .
please do not consider a reel system .as i think on my round these would slow us down .thanks tacky
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: lukeg on January 19, 2013, 02:58:18 pm
If you put a hose on the outlet of the tank with a on/off valve should be pretty quick, can't think of any other ways
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Trev Jones on January 19, 2013, 02:59:32 pm
Use a 12volt submersible pump dropped into your tank  :)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Richard60 on January 19, 2013, 03:15:28 pm
thanks guys
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 19, 2013, 04:14:23 pm
thats how i work , got a tap on the tank outlet with 20" of hose from it fills bpack no problem although havin a submersible would be quicker it just seems like more hassle
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Trev Jones on January 19, 2013, 04:44:38 pm
With the 12v submersible, I plumbed and wired mine in so it was in the tank all the time, with a switch to turn on and off. This stops the faffing about dropping it in the tank each time and remembering to put the lid back on the tank.
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 19, 2013, 06:02:56 pm
that sounds good but you need to be a bit handy & i'm not  ::)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Richard60 on January 19, 2013, 06:05:15 pm
thats two of us  ;D
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: John pearce on January 19, 2013, 08:09:20 pm
i plumed this pump in my tank about 2 years ago.   http://www.amazon.co.uk/Voltage-Submersible-Transfer-Pump-TP94/dp/B000ROB684/ref=sr_1_20?ie=UTF8&qid=1358625826&sr=8-20

bit expensive,you can get cheaper ones
, http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/12-volt-rule-submersible-bilge-pump-60-lpm.html


if you dont want to plumb in, then just drop in tank .     jp






Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Trev Jones on January 19, 2013, 08:18:00 pm
snap JP, exactly the same pump I plumbed in  ;D
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Richard60 on January 19, 2013, 08:22:23 pm
thanks jp
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 19, 2013, 09:38:16 pm
would you mind sticking some pics up of how you did it please
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: John pearce on January 20, 2013, 12:29:47 pm
would you mind sticking some pics up of how you did it please
Hi kybl, heres pics, 

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/jp4313/19012013082_zps9b8fc8d1.jpg)
that hose you see next to lid is the pump hose.










(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/jp4313/19012013079_zps6628ddf1.jpg)
 veiwed from top,  drill hole big enough for pump hose and wires to pass through, sit pump nearly on bottom so does not suck up grit, although thi pump has filter on bottom, then with this epoxy glue fill the top and seal it.      ,http://www.amazon.co.uk/EPOXY-ADHESIVE-GLASS-LEATHER-PLASTIC/dp/B003BPX9EK/ref=sr_1_12?s=diy&ie=UTF8&qid=1358681131&sr=1-12


 

because the pump is pumping out 16 odd litres a min,it will cause a vacum efect, so you will need to put a hose in lid or somewhere so that air can get in, if you look in first pick mine is on lid,  you can just loosen lid while pump is filling, but i sometimes i forgot then water would bubble up .






 

(http://i1275.photobucket.com/albums/y444/jp4313/19012013076_zps87bcb627.jpg)
lastly fit an on/off switch from B/Q  , put it somewhere it cant be knocked like it did with me once while driving and water pumping everywhere ::)  >:(







this ishow ive done it, and not had any prob for 2 years
hope this has helped    .j. p   ;)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 20, 2013, 12:47:56 pm
thats great thanks, i see you have a pump & controller st up as well so i take it you have a hose reel would it not be easier to be able to disconnect that somehow & fill the backpack then you'd only have i lot of pumps,hoses etc
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on January 20, 2013, 03:46:19 pm
KYBL IT WOULD TAKE FOREVER TO FILL A BARRELL WITH NORMAL PUMP MATE.
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 20, 2013, 03:57:49 pm
thats great thanks, i see you have a pump & controller st up as well so i take it you have a hose reel would it not be easier to be able to disconnect that somehow & fill the backpack then you'd only have i lot of pumps,hoses etc
Filling a backpack directly from pump & controller would take too long.I use a 3/4" tap from the outlet with 19mm hose and it fills quite quick.
Anyone who uses a submersible pump how long does it take to fill a 25l barrell? It takes me 45 seconds with a tap from the outlet,but would consider getting a submersible pump if it was a lot quicker.
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 20, 2013, 05:20:07 pm
i use 1 of these   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-tank-tap-kit-valve-1-for-water-400-500-650L-tank-/390293339386?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item5adf4bbcfa,  not sure how long backpack takes to fill but its a lot longer than any 45 secs & thats only 18 ltr if i could do it that quick i wouldn't need a pump.   what am i doing wrong then ???
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 20, 2013, 08:34:42 pm
i use 1 of these   http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Metal-tank-tap-kit-valve-1-for-water-400-500-650L-tank-/390293339386?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item5adf4bbcfa,  not sure how long backpack takes to fill but its a lot longer than any 45 secs & thats only 18 ltr if i could do it that quick i wouldn't need a pump.   what am i doing wrong then ???
Not sure what fittings you would need,but basically you are trying to get 3/4" fittings so you can use bigger id hose.At the moment you are using a hoselock style fitting onto a 15mm tap,so your hose id will be too small for a fast flow.
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: Richard60 on January 20, 2013, 09:01:49 pm
thanks guys nice bit of info
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 20, 2013, 09:22:49 pm
ks cleaning --    have you got a link for the 3/4" tap you use please
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 20, 2013, 09:38:58 pm
Kybl,sorry not sure how to put link up :-[,but if you go onto Tanks Direct website,then under taps&valves scroll down and you will see tap kits,the 1" one will be even quicker than what I have,it is £18 + vat I think,a lot cheaper than what I paid :'(.You may want to put a link up for others to see it ;)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 20, 2013, 10:03:35 pm
top notch mate, i've ordered one already   nice 1!!!
i hope this link is ok --http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/taps_&_valves

ok the liink just takes you to a list,    its tanks-direct.co.uk
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 20, 2013, 10:37:24 pm
No probs Kybl,that should fill a backpack in no time :D,once you have it fitted would you mind letting me know? ;)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on January 21, 2013, 01:47:46 pm
http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/taps_&_valves/tap_kit_1_-_%281%22_outlet%29
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 21, 2013, 03:19:04 pm
http://www.tanks-direct.co.uk/taps_&_valves/tap_kit_1_-_%281%22_outlet%29
Cheers Mike,hows things in dunflum?
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: simonr on January 21, 2013, 07:25:53 pm
No probs Kybl,that should fill a backpack in no time ,once you have it fitted would you mind letting me know?
will do,   i was standing around watching my bpack filling today thinking, now why the hell did it never occur to me to get a tap with a bigger outlet  ??? i had my van a year an all.   feel like homer endlessly trying to get his cans of the wire
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 21, 2013, 10:16:10 pm
A used to fill a spare 25l container from ma outside port via the pump & controller as a was workin,it was crazy the amount o times a forgot about the container fillin up......until a saw the water runnin down the street ;D.That was why a decided to get another tap added that bypasses ma pumps,a lot less hassle and works well for me ;)
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on January 21, 2013, 10:19:10 pm
No bad Kev,up to date with work,got a few gutters and cony roofs this week but a bit too blowy outside so wait for  better weather,no rush,tax bill end of month though,constant bloody bills.
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: KS Cleaning on January 21, 2013, 10:32:39 pm
No bad Kev,up to date with work,got a few gutters and cony roofs this week but a bit too blowy outside so wait for  better weather,no rush,tax bill end of month though,constant bloody bills.
Aye,am more or less up to date anaw.That teacher fi 95 p*i*o*w*od is startin to annoy me,she is meant to pay online noo (really difficult,click o a button) and is due 3 cleans n still no payment,gonna put a note thru her door next time am there, to tell her to start start payin on time. some folk eh!
Title: Re: backpack filling again
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on January 21, 2013, 11:38:20 pm
I only clean twice Kev,no payment no clean on third visit,but those who have my bank details get cleaned once and not again until payment made,any over 8 weekly get charged extra too,just got to be polite and friendly when dealing with situation,would never clean 3 times when they can log in and do a transfer in 2 mins.I have put them up £7 to £10 or £5 to £7 etc not caring if they cancel but cant remember any that have,makes up for the aggro.Put price up Kev  then its not as annoying,£12 say then only do twice without payment,beta than dropping alltogether.