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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 01:01:00 pm

Title: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 01:01:00 pm
Been toying with the idea for a while of installing a cheapish hot water system in the van
Ive had no experience of using them before
Is there are advantages
Ie better finish / use in cold conditons etc
Whats a good gas system to buy
Costs etc
Is it worth it
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: A-W-C on January 12, 2013, 01:05:52 pm
well iv`e been wfp for 10 years now and have only just set up a hot system and like most things you have always toyed with for a while but kept putting it off for what ever reason i wished id of done it years ago,its not really for any finished results thats just down to your water tds anyway its more the warm water in the cold weathers for me so don`t mess about anymore just DO IT !!!  ;D
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 01:13:57 pm
What system did you go for
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: Mike #1 on January 12, 2013, 01:14:28 pm
If you have the money and the room in your van then do it .

I have managed just fine in the worst 2 winters for years with cold water , I dont have the room in my truck so wont ever bother as I like having a 4x4. Mike
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: A-W-C on January 12, 2013, 01:21:37 pm
What system did you go for

click on the link below  ;)

http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=163820.0
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 01:50:59 pm
Thanks for the link
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: PoleKing on January 12, 2013, 01:54:20 pm
As you're in CB the benefit of hot may be minimal for you GJ.
Here-it a godsend, once you've used it you won't want to go cold again.
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 02:12:49 pm
I not so sure lanes
Im looking at a sure to clean system for about 200 quid
Most of the work I do on the cb is bar and restaurant windows youll be suprised how much dirt and dust gathers and salts from the sea
I thought it may be easier to shift using a hot system
My friend has a mobile car wash he uses a hot system as it works well removing salts and palm sap etc
Im here at the moment  til june anyway so initially I want to use it here

Never used a hot system before was wondering whether they would benefit me
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 02:38:38 pm
i think the best way to put it,

do you wash up in hot or cold water????  ;D

its great, moves dirt faster than cold, great on first cleans, here keeps hands and van warm in winter.
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 02:41:10 pm
I think ill give one a go for 200 quid
Are they easy to fit
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 02:47:58 pm
some are some are not, depends what one you go for.

I got a ecotemp L5, all i had to do it make a little metal fram, bolt that to the side of the van, bolt heater onto that, then just pumb the pipes in, connect the gas, strap gas bottle in, and thats it,
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 02:50:03 pm
here is a quick video of what i did,
http://youtu.be/AM07hsbkChU
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 02:51:28 pm
Thanks for your help lads
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: PoleKing on January 12, 2013, 04:00:24 pm
Are you nipping back to the UK anytime before you buy.
Lads on here with it all over the country, I'm sure someone would demonstrate for you. I'm in Lincolnshire, I'd show you.
Failing that-if its only €200, go for it.
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: Crystal-clear on January 12, 2013, 04:11:20 pm
I'm just a bit worried about cracking glass there has been a few cases on this forum
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 04:50:02 pm
Are you nipping back to the UK anytime before you buy.
Lads on here with it all over the country, I'm sure someone would demonstrate for you. I'm in Lincolnshire, I'd show you.
Failing that-if its only €200, go for it.

I was up Lincolnshire last week doing 3days work!!
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 04:59:15 pm
I'm just a bit worried about cracking glass there has been a few cases on this forum
Thanks for the offer of a demo

Thats a valid point re glass cracking how is the water temp controlled
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: bobplum on January 12, 2013, 05:02:48 pm
i have been using hot for the last 4 days or so

imo its a good addition to have,at the right price,i was lucky in getting mine from Steve Ainger,on this forum for £45.00 its a L5.
it definitely cuts through bird muck etc very quick,nice too have supple hoses,cleans frames  better, i dont feel it will clean the windows any better,time will tell

if you were to spend say £2000 on a ultra brilliant system then unless your doing loads of conny roofs,cladding etc i wouldn't bother

but say for a total outlay of £150.00?(L5 from usa plus bottle and fittings) its worth having as an additional tool in the tool box

so for the right price ..yes on balance
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 05:06:44 pm
I'm just a bit worried about cracking glass there has been a few cases on this forum
Thanks for the offer of a demo

Thats a valid point re glass cracking how is the water temp controlled


The the L5 it is controlled in 2ways, there is a dial to turn the gas up or down then there is a dial that controls the flow of water.
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 05:55:59 pm
So does the gas flow determine the temperature
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: redstarwindowcleaners on January 12, 2013, 06:06:47 pm
Just googled t hg e l5
I see how it works
I see you can import from the us for 100 quid
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 06:10:01 pm
Just googled t hg e l5
I see how it works
I see you can import from the us for 100 quid

Yes you can, not sure where abouts you are, but we get an extra import charge when it turns up in UK!
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: PoleKing on January 12, 2013, 06:24:31 pm
GJ, cracking glass happens rarely. You're more likely to hear when glass has cracked than when it hasn't so it may seem more frequent.
It's just common sense really.
If it's too hot to put your hand in the flow, turn it down.
If there's a load of steam coming off, turn it down.
If it feels the same temp as your tank, turn it up.
If there's ice on the inside of the window, stick with cold.  ;D
Like a few have said-for the extra $-go for it.

Rich, where were you in Lincs? You could have subbed it to me! ;D
Or come round for a brew.
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 06:30:09 pm
GJ, cracking glass happens rarely. You're more likely to hear when glass has cracked than when it hasn't so it may seem more frequent.
It's just common sense really.
If it's too hot to put your hand in the flow, turn it down.
If there's a load of steam coming off, turn it down.
If it feels the same temp as your tank, turn it up.
If there's ice on the inside of the window, stick with cold.  ;D
Like a few have said-for the extra $-go for it.

Rich, where were you in Lincs? You could have subbed it to me! ;D
Or come round for a brew.

Was in Louth helping out another window cleaner with a contract job. Parents live in Alford some come up that way a fair bit
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: PoleKing on January 12, 2013, 06:40:12 pm
Cool.
I've been here 10 years now, I like it.
All the best
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: R.C Property on January 12, 2013, 06:44:08 pm
Cool.
I've been here 10 years now, I like it.
All the best
Yer I lived in Alford for 5yrs then Louth for 2yrs, regret moving back to northampton really, but at the time it was the right thing to do!
Title: Re: Is there any real benefits of a hot system
Post by: paul13 on January 12, 2013, 07:28:54 pm
We just got our fogwash up and running six week ago, cost all in about £200
great investment if you want to experience the difference between hot
and cold washing go and wash the dishes  first with cold then hot ;D