Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: boshravie on February 10, 2006, 06:53:29 pm
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Hi guys
I am just wondering if any of you have purchesed the NEW C.F.R perfect heat?
and if you have what you think about it?
They claim that you can clean carpet and it dry in 1-2 hours with 75 foot of hose pipe and what about the recycling water ?
it all sounds very good!
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never seen machine working but the claims on heat are load cowsstuff
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Boshravie,
You're not that far away from Amtech. Why not pop over and ask for a demo.
Regards.
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Hi Martin
Yes I already have done the mini demo, but I like to know if anybody has had these machine for a while and what they think of them.
Basically I was in the Am tech opening seminar last week and also met the president of the C.F.R. it was impressive show about these machines specially the recycling part of it. I think these machines would be the future for all carpet cleaners.
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Bosh,
I have the CFR Altra pro 1000. It too recycles, and all I can say is, no hassle.
The perfect heat seems to be a couple of steps up again, what with twin vacs AND heat.
Mine is single vac no heat. Fine for me all the same.
Regards
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Martin
So you must have had this machine for more than a year .
Is it one of the first addition machine?
And how far can your vacuum pipe extend to for a good suction.
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Hi there, if my direct competition had one of these, i would use it to my advantage ;) infact i like the idea of it that much i might use it anway ;D
Conrad
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Bosh,
As I only do domestic at the mo' I only have the standard 33' plus 25' extension hose. I haven't felt the need for any more yet.
Not sure how far you can go lengthwise, but the tooling seems to work differently. Put the wand over your hand and you won't feel that much suction!! After all, it's only 1 vac. That IS something that takes a little getting used to, because the wand isn't glued to the Carpet you sometimes wonder if anything is actually happening........but it is.
Don't ask me why it works.....but it does.
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Briteclean
And how exactly would you use this to your advantage..................I owned one of the earlier generation of CFR machines and it's without doubt one of the finest machines you could wish to use.
I've mentioned before, my belief, that the CFR can outclean, or equal a t/m, not in outright power, but with advanced tooling and good design.
The newer models have even more to commend them
rob m
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Hi Rob
Well said, you see I think because these machines are a new concept in our trade and people need to be educated about them, it will be difficult for them to understand.
The best way is to try them and that will take time.
I am happy so far about the positive response from some of you guys.
If there are more of you out there which have tried these machine please reply to this debate?
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The concept is far from new and is not exclusive to AMTECH. it's about 8 years since I was introduced to re cycling machines and microsplitters.
r m
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Rob
8 years is not long time for a manufacturing of any type of machine. You have to be at least 10-15 or in some cases 20 years in business before people start to notice you.
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You are living on a different planet from me......................
Establishing a brand involves marketing and a manufacturer would go bust before the end of year one, if the product failed to sell.
The concept is more than 8 years old,is not unique to Amatech and I was merely saying that, it's 8 years since I personally got involved in microsplitters and re-cycling machines
r m
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I think you are going out of rail.
I am just intrested about this machine not about how long you have been i the bussiness or intrduced to this concept.
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The question for me was 'does it dry EVERY carpet in one to two hours' if at all!
Shaun
PS I'm interested if it does
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Ive had my pro 400 for 1 year now and am very happy with it, would like the new perfect heat though! This seems to be the ideal machine.
My machine took me about a month to get use to, with alot of 'did I make the right decision' going on, but once your'e use to the tooling, I for one would never go back to conventional machines.
I would say however that if your main stay of work is commercial then this may not be the right machine for you due to the fact the tank/filter needs cleaning regulary if the carpets are minging dirty.
regards
stu
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I bought the perfect heat 500 3 weks ago along with a
dryer extra hose and a twin motor vacuum cleaner from
Amtech uk for £3050.00 plus the vat.
GREAT MACHINE-GREAT HEAT-FANTASTIC DRYING
Andrew
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Andrew, does the Cfr 500 come with any tools or are they extra. What price are the tools to buy separate.
Regards Rob
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hi guys
Many thanks for your feed back.
we are buying the perfect heat next week including the recycling.
Looking forward to see it work.
Once again many thanks for your feed back
Bosh!
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Therapist,
it might be a good machine ? but i would'nt have my clothes washed in a washing machine that recycled water!! need i say more,saying that if i owned one i would tell the customer it was the dogs dangly bits and all other cleaning equipment
was inferior.
Conrad
P.S Its all about getting the sale ;D
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But you drink water that has been recycled...how many times...seven or eight
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My thoughts were that you could keep it mounted in the van, you have got the water in there which if it keeps recycling will last a full house and also the heat although I appreciate you would get serious temperature loss at the wand but the Pro 400 cleans without heat and also this new machine has 2 vacuum motors so the extra length should be no problem.
Shaun
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Briteclean
It should be obvious to anyone, with reasonable commonsense that, when using a recycling machine, should particularly heavy soiling be encountered, the water would be dumped.
And remember, the way to use these machines most effectively, is to prespray with microsplitters / aggitate / then use the machine to rinse with just water, which can be cold.
rob
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I think the vacuum stage is even more important with CFR.
Shaun
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rob,
yes that price did include floor and hand tools, however it was
purchased in october during their sale month.
you could always give them a call and ask for a price .
you dont get unless you ask.
andrew
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It is not a CFR machine i
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Hi Mike
The Cfr machine was not designed to use microsplitters it was designed to use emusifiers.
That is if you are talking about the recycling water system machine.
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Vernon, How many machnes? and which if any were specificaly designed for micro splitters, ?
the cfr is perfect for spitters, no foaming in tank, just water what could be simpler
Geoff
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Rob,
Who else makes these recycling machines.
On the question of Heat.
Are you saying that with Micro Splitters as long as you apply them correctly Aggitate etc you do not need any Heat.
Is that just with CFR Machines or all HWE machines.
Is it correct you cannot use old tools on a CFR for example a Rotovac or Power Brush
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You could, but if you did - a) you'd be losing water and b) you would be missing the point of the whole cfr system. The forward motion roller wand flushing at 500 psi is no more work than the rotovac and will match the result. I've tried both. Oh and the wand is over £1200+ vat cheaper and doesn't run on electric. ;D
Regards
Alan
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CFR’s detergent technology is completely different to other detergent manufacturers products that are currently available in both the states and Europe. CFR’s products have a sheering effect and do not liquefy soils, as do traditional detergents.
We do not want extracted soils passing through the filtration system and back into the carpet.
Microsplitting formulae does not liquefy soils either, so are perfect for use with the CFR re-cycling system.
CFR’s Research and Development department in Texas developed both the CFR Perfect Heat and Powr-Flite Perfect Heat extractors. The ‘Perfect Heat’ technology is patent pending and is a registered trademark of both CFR and Powr-Flite.
Regards
Steve Carpenter
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Thanks Steve, I didn't know that about it not liquifying the dirt so as to not recirculate it back into the carpet. Now I want the cfr system even more.
After your dem rug clean at Amtek I managed to get hold of a host with rug brushes and bought cfr's special purpose tool to clean a real silk rug. Just the job.
Alan ( 200 year old rug )
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Now theres a man who knows is stuff,well explained Steve ;) learnt out bosh ;D
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Yes guys I am learning all the time about the C.F.R and the more I study about this new concept the more I know that this is the right way to the future carpet cleaning especially when you use the new OZONE system.
P.S. Many thanks to STEVE CARPENTER for showing us the right way of oriental Rug cleaning last week. Yesterday we cleaned a Persian Rug and used your method, it was excellent, especially when the customer was watching. She was well impressed .