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Title: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Ian101 on January 04, 2013, 12:16:06 pm
How much a month are these to rent and what percentage do they take.

Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: formb on January 04, 2013, 12:21:57 pm
You need to negotiate a 'tariff' (I hate that word).

http://www.cardsave.net/card-machines/mobile-card-terminal
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Ian Rochester on January 04, 2013, 12:41:26 pm
We've been looking at Evalon, 19p for debit card and 1.1% for credit, costs £12:50 a month for the machine.

A lot are now moving to machineless systems, either by logging on to the internet to do it or via your mobile phone.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: gewindows on January 04, 2013, 01:05:41 pm
I bought my machine, £300.

I now pay £10 a month and a small transaction fee, about 1.5%
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: mick hay on January 04, 2013, 02:39:46 pm
Go to payyours.co.uk

you own the machine, ive been with them over a year....NO CONTRACT
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Ian101 on January 04, 2013, 04:20:12 pm
You need to negotiate a 'tariff' (I hate that word).

http://www.cardsave.net/card-machines/mobile-card-terminal

posted here after trying to get a price out of these .... they wouldnt give me a price over the phone but wanted to semd a local sales rep around to "go thru the figures" with me .... said no as too busy just give me the info over the phone .... no sorry cant do that.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Linda - Payatrader on January 04, 2013, 04:41:31 pm
Payatrader has just launched a new GPRS Chip & Pin terminal that's £3.00 per week to rent. The rates vary between 2.3% and 2.90% based on your weekly card turnover. All the prices and rates are transparent and published on the website at www.payatrader.com.

With this service you can take payments online at your website, by telephone using a virtual terminal, by mobile, email and via a 24/7 contact centre - handy if there's no mobile signal where you are working. The chip & pin terminal is entirely optional.

Hope this helps
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Central Window Cleaners on January 04, 2013, 04:58:15 pm
I was considering iZettle  no monthly fees just 2.75% per transaction, which I already pay when using Paypal anyway. 
You can type details into your iphone or android manually or pay one off fee of £20 for card reader.

Has anyone else used them?
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: robertphil on January 04, 2013, 05:23:55 pm
cardsave rang me up cold calling jus before xmas , it was £1 a day machine rental +2% each transaction. i said "WHAT!" thats 30 quid a month ,i wasnt intrested  so he offered 20 quid rental ,or less if id deal now and then asked me to ask my customers if they wanted this service and said he will call in Feb .
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: stephen.b1 on January 04, 2013, 09:02:09 pm
would like a hand held terminal and a secure way of paying on line
on my web site

can you manualy enter card details in to the terminal this would mean you can take payments over the phone
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: PoleKing on January 04, 2013, 09:07:39 pm
I've just done the izettle. The thing that goes in an iPhone 4 is now free.
Paid £1 which they refunded to confirm the bank account just waiting for the gadget to turn up.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: stephen.b1 on January 04, 2013, 09:10:16 pm
I bought my machine, £300.

I now pay £10 a month and a small transaction fee, about 1.5%
who is this contract with
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: stephen.b1 on January 04, 2013, 09:13:12 pm
We've been looking at Evalon, 19p for debit card and 1.1% for credit, costs £12:50 a month for the machine.

A lot are now moving to machineless systems, either by logging on to the internet to do it or via your mobile phone.
ian have you got more info on this tried doing a search but cant find any real details
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: gewindows on January 04, 2013, 09:18:39 pm
I bought my machine, £300.

I now pay £10 a month and a small transaction fee, about 1.5%
who is this contract with


Payyours.co.uk
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: bobplum on January 05, 2013, 03:38:45 pm
I've just done the izettle. The thing that goes in an iPhone 4 is now free.
Paid £1 which they refunded to confirm the bank account just waiting for the gadget to turn up.

it does say £20.00 on the website?
does look a good way of doing things
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Window Washers on January 05, 2013, 05:09:20 pm
I got izettle,

the next thing is convincing customers we are not skimming thier cards  ;D
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: formb on January 07, 2013, 01:20:13 pm
You need to negotiate a 'tariff' (I hate that word).

http://www.cardsave.net/card-machines/mobile-card-terminal

posted here after trying to get a price out of these .... they wouldnt give me a price over the phone but wanted to semd a local sales rep around to "go thru the figures" with me .... said no as too busy just give me the info over the phone .... no sorry cant do that.

Card Save was recommended to me by my bank manager (RBS). They have been brilliant. Maybe not the cheapest but their technical support and customer services are top notch.

I don't do mobile readers so can't really say what they are like. We have a 'virtual terminal' which we integrated into our round software. The guy who did the programming for us could not fault card save's technical support.

Card Save also do 'pay by link' which will allow us to fire off an email automatically from our round software which has a link to pay the bill, once it's paid it will automatically update onto our software. Genius.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Window Washers on January 07, 2013, 02:18:52 pm
You need to negotiate a 'tariff' (I hate that word).

http://www.cardsave.net/card-machines/mobile-card-terminal

posted here after trying to get a price out of these .... they wouldnt give me a price over the phone but wanted to semd a local sales rep around to "go thru the figures" with me .... said no as too busy just give me the info over the phone .... no sorry cant do that.

Card Save was recommended to me by my bank manager (RBS). They have been brilliant. Maybe not the cheapest but their technical support and customer services are top notch.

I don't do mobile readers so can't really say what they are like. We have a 'virtual terminal' which we integrated into our round software. The guy who did the programming for us could not fault card save's technical support.

Card Save also do 'pay by link' which will allow us to fire off an email automatically from our round software which has a link to pay the bill, once it's paid it will automatically update onto our software. Genius.
would you sell your software ?
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: formb on January 07, 2013, 02:28:59 pm
would you sell your software ?

This is something I have briefly discussed with the guy who designed it, I would not be comfortable selling it without his OK and I would not be confident in selling it without his support. It is certainly a possibility.

I will be meeting with him in the coming weeks to discuss tweaks / improvements to the software, I will speak to him about it then.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: PoleKing on January 07, 2013, 07:58:59 pm
@ Bobplum, you're right. I was prepared to pay the £20 but when I went to pay it said it was free.
Perhaps they only want people who would be prepared to pay rather than a load of people getting it just cause its free?
I don't know. I didn't pay though.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: bobplum on January 07, 2013, 08:41:40 pm
@ Bobplum, you're right. I was prepared to pay the £20 but when I went to pay it said it was free.
Perhaps they only want people who would be prepared to pay rather than a load of people getting it just cause its free?
I don't know. I didn't pay though.


did you have to fill in forms at the bank/solicitor for identification reasons
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Fin Clearview on January 07, 2013, 09:34:02 pm
@ Bobplum, you're right. I was prepared to pay the £20 but when I went to pay it said it was free.
Perhaps they only want people who would be prepared to pay rather than a load of people getting it just cause its free?
I don't know. I didn't pay though.

The £20 comes off your transaction charges.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: PoleKing on January 07, 2013, 09:37:58 pm
Nope, did it all online.
Took 15 minutes.
Then I had to pay them £1 to 'verify my account'. Got refunded 3 days later.
Got the email today to say my card reader had been shipped.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Window Washers on January 08, 2013, 06:27:11 am
would you sell your software ?

This is something I have briefly discussed with the guy who designed it, I would not be comfortable selling it without his OK and I would not be confident in selling it without his support. It is certainly a possibility.

I will be meeting with him in the coming weeks to discuss tweaks / improvements to the software, I will speak to him about it then.

excellent could you please let me know when you have ?
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Matt Gibson on January 08, 2013, 08:53:01 am
I looked into getting the free izettle deal, but my biggest problem with the izettle and all the other mobile phone card readers was that the customers is essentially putting there details into your mobile phone.

Now, if some builder came round to my place, did some work and then asked me to input details into his mobile phone while my card was sticking out of it, i know what id say to him..

Just my thoughts..

I believe that companies like izettle will bring out new card readers, and some companies already have them coming out, whereby you attach them to your phone, and they have a small keypad on the actual reader device, so that the customer can input details on the reader keypad, not your phone keypad. Which in my view is a lot better, as all the companies say that the reader stores the details for as long as it needs to process the payment, then all details are wiped daily. No more putting pin numbers etc into someones phone.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Fin Clearview on January 08, 2013, 10:43:45 am
Firstly - we shouldn't be compared to builders, in the main we are continuing to provide a regular, trusted service by usually the same person.

Izettle do not require PIN numbers, customers only confirm the amount and sign the screen to auth (non visa).

The receipt that you can send to payees has a link to izettle website where they can read up on the encryption security features if they really want to.

The account history within the izettle app only stores the last four digits of the payees card.

Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Ian101 on January 08, 2013, 05:43:35 pm
Cardsave called me today ..... £25 a month machine rental with min contract of 12 months and 36p per transaction on a debit card irrespective of amount od debit or 2.5% for a credit card.

what ya think ?
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Fin Clearview on January 08, 2013, 06:39:38 pm
Cardsave called me today ..... £25 a month machine rental with min contract of 12 months and 36p per transaction on a debit card irrespective of amount od debit or 2.5% for a credit card.

what ya think ?

Not sure which handheld they are offering or if insurance included but the trans charge is too much. Shop around and hardball, I was offered 1.2% credit or debit and I think 2% for cardholder not present credit or debit. (Merchant bank was Elavon)

I can't remember which company offered but ill try and find the paperwork.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Linda - Payatrader on January 08, 2013, 08:15:17 pm
Payatrader
Have you looked at the Payatrader service and the new Chip & Pin Machine? Quite a few forum members use the service.

With the core service (no physical terminal) there are no monthly fees, no minimum usage charges or minimum term contract.  It's a simple Pay As You Go service - which means you PAY NOTHING if you don't process a payment.

You can take payments online, by telephone using a virtual terminal, mobile, email and via a 24/7 payments line.

If you wish to add a terminal you can do so for £3.00 +VAT per week.

All the transactions go into one single online account - very easy to use.

Rates from 2.3% - all published on the payatrader.com - so very transparent

There is a one-off joining fee of £74 using the discount code CLEANITUP

iZettle

Payatrader introduced the new pocket Chip & Pin machine (PayMate) because we believe customers are happier paying using a device that they are familiar with. As you say, many are nervous about entering card details into a traders mobile phone or attachment.

Also, with iZettle you cannot take Visa payments the same way as MasterCard.

For Visa, a link has to be sent to the customers mobile phone making the transaction a bit more complex.

Hope this helps! Happy to answer any questions.
Linda

Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Matt Gibson on January 08, 2013, 09:45:48 pm
Thats another thing I didnt like about izettle. Paying via visa is a bit of a faff. Sending stuff th

O the customers phone to authorise. Most debit cards are visa.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: bobplum on January 08, 2013, 10:02:16 pm
Payatrader
Have you looked at the Payatrader service and the new Chip & Pin Machine? Quite a few forum members use the service.

With the core service (no physical terminal) there are no monthly fees, no minimum usage charges or minimum term contract.  It's a simple Pay As You Go service - which means you PAY NOTHING if you don't process a payment.

You can take payments online, by telephone using a virtual terminal, mobile, email and via a 24/7 payments line.

If you wish to add a terminal you can do so for £3.00 +VAT per week.

All the transactions go into one single online account - very easy to use.

Rates from 2.3% - all published on the payatrader.com - so very transparent

There is a one-off joining fee of £74 using the discount code CLEANITUP

iZettle

Payatrader introduced the new pocket Chip & Pin machine (PayMate) because we believe customers are happier paying using a device that they are familiar with. As you say, many are nervous about entering card details into a traders mobile phone or attachment.

Also, with iZettle you cannot take Visa payments the same way as MasterCard.

For Visa, a link has to be sent to the customers mobile phone making the transaction a bit more complex.

Hope this helps! Happy to answer any questions.
Linda



have i got this right...£74.00 to join
machine.....£187.20 a year(£3.00 a week plus vat)
charge/rate.......2.3 per transaction

its starting to sound expensive
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Linda - Payatrader on January 09, 2013, 01:35:12 am
I guess it depends what you are comparing it with :) The core Payatrader service has no monthly fees whatsoever. It's only the addition of the terminal that introduces a monthly charge. What I didn't mention in the earlier post is you can also buy the terminal outright for £199 +VAT with a £1.50 weekly charge for SIM data.
 
The terminal is a mobile terminal with a roaming SIM and SMS receipting; typically, these terminals are more expensive than static desktop machines and devices that need to pair with a bluetooth phone. The upside is the simplicity of processing the transaction, the security, and the from a customer perspective the familiarity of chip&pin.

One other thing to consider is you get a full multichannel service, enabling you to take payments: online at your website, by telephone using a virtual terminal, mobile, email and via the 24/7 payments line. This means you have lots of options depending on how your customers prefer to pay.

Finally, there are no merchant account fees to pay and no requirement to complete PCI compliance paperwork - that's down to us!

Hope this helps
Linda
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Fin Clearview on January 09, 2013, 07:13:13 am
Bobplum - that's the trouble it does start to add up which is the reason I decided not to go for it. Izettle, although not perfect, the reader is free and a you
Pay is 2.75% per transaction. NO extra costs. Don't even have to insure the reader either (or put it on your home insurance like other handhelds) if it breaks or you lose it, get another.
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: bobplum on January 09, 2013, 08:00:21 am
I guess it depends what you are comparing it with :) The core Payatrader service has no monthly fees whatsoever. It's only the addition of the terminal that introduces a monthly charge. What I didn't mention in the earlier post is you can also buy the terminal outright for £199 +VAT with a £1.50 weekly charge for SIM data.
 
The terminal is a mobile terminal with a roaming SIM and SMS receipting; typically, these terminals are more expensive than static desktop machines and devices that need to pair with a bluetooth phone. The upside is the simplicity of processing the transaction, the security, and the from a customer perspective the familiarity of chip&pin.

One other thing to consider is you get a full multichannel service, enabling you to take payments: online at your website, by telephone using a virtual terminal, mobile, email and via the 24/7 payments line. This means you have lots of options depending on how your customers prefer to pay.

Finally, there are no merchant account fees to pay and no requirement to complete PCI compliance paperwork - that's down to us!

Hope this helps
Linda

can you explain the core paytrader a bit more
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Linda - Payatrader on January 09, 2013, 09:31:47 am
Hi Bob,
Can do :)

The core Payatrader proposition is a "Pay As You Go" card processing service. There are no monthly fees, no minimum usage charges and no minimum term contract. This means if you don't take a payment there's nothing to pay. Also, with Payatrader, you do not need to open a separate merchant account - which saves you more money and makes the set-up quicker, normally within a day or so.

When you do take a payment you pay a small commission between 2.3% and 2.9% on Mastercard and Visa. The rate you pay is based on your weekly card turnover & the solution automatically gives you the best rate based on this. The rates are banded and are shown on our website at payatrader.com.

There are 5 ways to take a payment - online at your website (or customers can pay at our website), over the telephone using a virtual terminal, by mobile phone via payatrader.mobi and by calling our 24/7 payments line.

Settlement is weekly direct into your nominated bank account.

This is the core service that normally costs £99 to set up an account (one off fee) but which is discounted for forum members by £25 using code CLEANITUP.

The new Chip & Pin terminal is entirely optional.

So as you can see you can set up for £74 and have 5 channels available to you within a day - with no recurring fees whatsoever!

Here is a video link that helps explain it: http://player.vimeo.com/video/53943793 (http://player.vimeo.com/video/53943793)

The way you join is online at our website www.payatrader.com (http://www.payatrader.com)

Regards
Linda
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: bobplum on January 09, 2013, 04:50:29 pm
any chance of a free trial,using my mobile
bob
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Linda - Payatrader on January 10, 2013, 10:14:58 am
Hi,

We (Payatrader.com) have a pocket sized chip & pin machine you can rent for £3.00 per week including the SIM data charges. It's also available to but at £199 with a weekly charge of £1.50 for the data. Look at the advert topics if you would like to find out more or our website.
Hope this helps
Linda
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: STEVE-UK on November 05, 2014, 09:10:53 am
Thought id bump this topic as I am now considering card payments..anyone recommend a company?

Prices seem to be dropping now compared to earlier posts
http://www.cardswitcher.co.uk/price-comparison-for-credit-card-processing/
Title: Re: Mobile card payment machines.
Post by: Matt Gibson on November 05, 2014, 09:43:48 am
I have been looking at this one, as recently i have had quite a few customers ask me if i take card, and instead, have had to take a cheque.

www.worldpayzinc.com

2.75% on transactions, which is a bit pricey, but there is no contract, the card reader is pretty cheaps, and its easy to set up, can have it paid into your bank account and send receipts via email etc..