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Title: Van running costs ??
Post by: PAUL ERITH on January 03, 2013, 05:29:44 pm
What are your van running costs trying to work a few things out so i can forcast growth ect

I have worked it out at around £112 per week this is worked out for the new van lasting 5 years not sure if this is to high or not.

Whats your vann running costs ???
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Dave Willis on January 03, 2013, 05:36:14 pm
About £70 a week not including depreciation or purchase.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: PAUL ERITH on January 03, 2013, 05:55:39 pm
Yeah i worked it out with a £12,000 loan for van and new wfp system over 5 years ontop of every day costs like fuel tax insurance ECT

Paul
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Dave Willis on January 03, 2013, 06:23:49 pm
I reckon it's going to be more than that then. Insurance, services, mot's, tax, tyres, fuel and interest. Probably closer to £130 for you depending on your mileage.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Amazin on January 03, 2013, 06:45:40 pm
So what is the most likely cost of running a windows cleaning business? About £200 per week?
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: home6442 on January 03, 2013, 07:27:41 pm
I paid £8000 for van.
I intend to keep it for 10 years
Lets say I scrap it after 10 years thats £800 per year.

So £800per year.
Tax and insurance £600.
Mot and running costs lets say £100
Fuel £10 per week all my work is within 5 miles.

So £29 per week + fuel.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on January 03, 2013, 07:42:31 pm
I paid £8000 for van.
I intend to keep it for 10 years
Lets say I scrap it after 10 years thats £800 per year.

So £800per year.
Tax and insurance £600.
Mot and running costs lets say £100
Fuel £10 per week all my work is within 5 miles.
So £29 per week + fuel.

Thats the way to do it!! If you can. :)
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: TomCrowther on January 03, 2013, 08:24:08 pm
That figure is miles out. If you think you can run a van for £29 a week you will have a hole in your business plan.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Steve Sed on January 03, 2013, 08:40:55 pm
That figure is miles out. If you think you can run a van for £29 a week you will have a hole in your business plan.
So is the OP. It fails to take into account residual value for a start.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: PAUL ERITH on January 03, 2013, 08:52:30 pm
This is how i have worked it out

£233 per month over 5 years for Van & wfp system loan £12,000
£20 Road Tax per month
£80 Insurance per month
£80 Fuel per month
£75 miscellaneous water production ro & di, poles, hose etc.
£488 x 12 / 48 = £122

So the weekly running costs are £122 tops with money left over  for  broken pole or the end of the world I would have thought it’s better to over do it than not have enough cash to cover the bills
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Steve Sed on January 03, 2013, 09:21:20 pm
This is how i have worked it out

£233 per month over 5 years for Van & wfp system loan £12,000
£20 Road Tax per month
£80 Insurance per month
£80 Fuel per month
£75 miscellaneous water production ro & di, poles, hose etc.
£488 x 12 / 48 = £122

So the weekly running costs are £122 tops with money left over  for  broken pole or the end of the world I would have thought it’s better to over do it than not have enough cash to cover the bills

Ok, so not for profit/loss or tax then. Also, I wouldn't include wfp stuff if I was to work ou my van running costs. £75 seems very high.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: R.C Property on January 03, 2013, 10:48:30 pm

I got my van in Feb last year, fitted it out with 2man set up and within 5months it was fully paid off,

So I only got  insurance, road tax,fuel, mot
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: home6442 on January 03, 2013, 11:12:07 pm
The post asked for van running costs not system or
business costs.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Johnny B on January 03, 2013, 11:14:01 pm
I bought my van (1999 Ford Fiesta 1.8 Diesel) nearly 3 years ago for just under a grand.

Excluding depreciation (A thousand max in any case), my running costs work out at just under 47 euro per week.

John
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: home6442 on January 03, 2013, 11:16:48 pm
This is how i have worked it out

£233 per month over 5 years for Van & wfp system loan £12,000
£20 Road Tax per month
£80 Insurance per month
£80 Fuel per month
£75 miscellaneous water production ro & di, poles, hose etc.
£488 x 12 / 48 = £122

So the weekly running costs are £122 tops with money left over  for  broken pole or the end of the world I would have thought it’s better to over do it than not have enough cash to cover the bills

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Do you intend to give the van away after 5 years.
If not then you reduce the value of the van from your 5 year costs.
Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: Amazin on January 03, 2013, 11:42:07 pm
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Yeah i worked it out with a £12,000 loan for van and new wfp system over 5 years ontop of every day costs like fuel tax insurance ECT

I only have about £7000 to invest, is that enough to start the business? Don't forget the cost of sales and marketing!

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The post asked for van running costs not system or
business costs.

well, why not. You need to know everything!

Title: Re: Van running costs ??
Post by: shina on January 04, 2013, 08:01:59 am
I use my estate car, I just dont like vans. I use a trolley system and put the seats down in the back. The bottom seat comes up and is a secure bulkhead. nothing will get past it. I can carry 10 25ltr containers although I generaly carry 6 and I have always found this to be the best option for me. Most would disagree but on the weekend I put the seats back up and unload and it is then a family car again.
I also prefer it as it is low for the ladderson the roof.