Clean It Up
UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: david@zap-clean on January 03, 2013, 04:32:34 pm
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Has anyone seen these before, and are they suitable for using on upholstery?
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1357230732_Halfords.jpg)
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I suspect the RPM will be far too fast, i have sent many an email to suppliers to find out the RPM on cheap machines and the are always to fast. I would think about 150 would be about the max, but more experienced guys on here may have a more definite answer.
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Just use a Hand Pad or tampico brush give you a bit of a work out at same time ;D
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I have used simular but find the oscillating action grips the fabric more where a de walt drill with a speed control is more suited.
Shaun
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I cannot get such devise to work on Car , yet alone Upho;stery and Stairs Just does not work smothley enough for me and I would probably cause damage if I persisted with experiment
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They are usless for car polishing and even worse for aggitation. If you want electric for aggitation you want an oscilator then you dont damage the fabric. One of these
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/car-machine-polishers.aspx?manufacturerid=30&gclid=CLj75ILczLQCFUbKtAodOwUALw
Ive got a meguiars osc for sale if any one wants it £100.
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I'm still looking for something that will attach
to my cordless drill, some kind of brush attachment.
Must be something out there.
John
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I'm still looking for something that will attach
to my cordless drill, some kind of brush attachment.
Must be something out there.
John
http://www.cleaningsystems.co.uk/product/673/rota_brush
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Hi David.....Happy New Year
Used them years ago when valeting (only on paint work) until i got a Kestrel dual action polisher.
Russ Chadd uses a good one here`s a link (checkout the video).
http://www.prosteamuk.com/car-upholstery-cleaning-service/
I just use this brush
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vikan-Heavy-Duty-Car-Carpet-Fabric-Cleaning-Brush-/370717154845?pt=UK_Car_Accessories_Car_Care_Cleaning&hash=item565076de1d
Richard
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Mark
Looks ok but no specs with it i.e. what size.
What Russ uses looks pretty good what is it
and do the brushes come with it?
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The electric DA machine i was using is called a kestrel, you can buy these off Ebay for under £100, the brushes are specially made specifically for upholstery cleaning and delicate carpets.
Rumour has it that Nick at Solutions can supply the brushes and a machine which has dual brush's, this is ideal for agitating larger areas such as sofa cushions.
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http://www.cyclopolisher.co.uk (http://www.cyclopolisher.co.uk)
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Expensive for what they are and no brush for u/h.
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Sorry wrong link. These things are built like tanks and every part is available as a spare. They have been available in the US for decades and are the same as the mini Orbot from HOS.
http://www.cyclopolisher.co.uk/product.php?productid=17540&cat=250&page=1
(http://www.cyclopolisher.co.uk/product.php?productid=17540&cat=250&page=1)
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Ther was a thread on this on the "other" board.
It seems to have disappeared............ ???
John
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My cyclo arrived this morning... as Jamie said they are built like tanks and have probably the best selection of accessories available.
If you are working on lots of upholstery a machine like this is a must, changeable brushes allow the operator to work on anything from fine fabrics to tile and grout, add two foam pads to the supplied velcro backing plates and you can polish your van too!
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built like a tank and weighs the same ;)
does any one clean upholstery that is so dirty it requires mechanical agitation? its not a carpet were agitation is needed to get the prespray deep into the pile, a light scrub with a hand brush is all upholstery needs..... unless its miles of pub seating.
IMO all these machine are not needed and a waste of money
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Russ
How much roughly do you charge for the car valeting? i.e. the upholstery and carpets in a car?
Something I always get asked about but never gave it any thought till now.
Tony
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Yeah, like Mike I find a hand brush is more than adequate on upholstery. Your not brush for that long that it hurts your forarm or hand.
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I suppose it would be quite good to use it firstly
pre vac to loosen the muck in the seats, then after
vaccing as agitation for pre spray.
But mainly on car u/h.
Carpet Dawg....I too get asked quite regularly but
turn it down because I find it hard to price versus
not knowing how long it will take.
John
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In my experience if you use microsplitters for cleaning upholstery, you get much better results taking more time to agitate making the extraction stage quicker.
The other day i cleaned the seats on Vauxhall Corsa, the seats were really minging!
I wanted to keep the moisture down to a minimum as the custy needed the car in the after noon so i lightly sprayed hot SPM and gently massage the seat with the kestrel, after a short time the cleaning agent plus mechanical agitation had improved the appearance and a low pressure extraction using my CFR tool was all that was required.
Once i had finished the last seat in the car, the first one was almost nearly dry...
Tony - I simply dont have set prices for auto interiors, every car is different so i kind of base my price around my hourly rate... you could probably charge around £30 per seat
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I do car valeting as well as carpet and suite cleaning, and charge £45 to £50 for a car interior which seems to be the acceptable rate around here. I use a Numatic CTD 570 for the cars but Cristal Fusion for suites. I find the Cristal Fusion an excellent machine although wouldn't have paid full price for it. I was lucky enough to get it s/h.
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Hi Tony (Carpet Dawg) & Russ...Happy New Year
My price`s for car interiors are 45 pound...Bit of an old dog / 7 seater..60+ pound..
P.s hows the Storm going Tony ?.
Richard
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Happy new year Rich and everyone!
Unfortunately due to the car cleaning "invasion" which has swept Britain over the last 10 years, any fool with a bucket of dirty soapy water and a pressure washer can be self named as a valeter.
I got out of the trade simply because i could not compete with the low prices offered by the hand car washers. All i do now is offer specialist automotive interior cleaning which involves deep cleaning, vomit, urine removal, odour control and dry steam sanitising.
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I still see Car Valeting Vans more than Carpet Cleaning. The Vans are usually driven by long established Uk residents, and many have been around for years . They are always clean and shiny. ;D ;D
Also more Window Cleaning Vans
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Same as you Russ gave up in 2008 but now only do seats.
Richard
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Is there money in detailing? www.polishedbliss.co.uk (http://www.polishedbliss.co.uk) seem to be the main players near me in that game.
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I occasionaly do car upholstery for a pvt car seller the seats, head rests, carpets and boot carpet I use upholstery foam with sponge lightly brushed where needed then extract with hot water and inline hand tool. on average 2 and a bit hours and charge £140.00 it's a bit fiddly and a bit of a back breaker so don't actively go for car upholstery.
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Hi Cleaning Systems UK.
My friend does Detailing and you can earn good money out of it..
He takes days doing a car mostly high end cars.
He knows Polishedbliss very well.
http://www.ultradetail.co.uk/
Richard
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Hi Richard, and happy new year to you too!
The Storm is going good thanks. It still suprises me how much "suck" it has lol literally lifes the carpet off the floor!
I am finding alot more grit in the waste bucket now, i put this down too the added sucked but also the new Westpack wand that I got with the machine. The four jets are closer to the ground and are angled to dig into the dirt.
p.s. Cheers Russ
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Hi Tony (Cheers)
Thats good news about the Storm m8.
Sadly going to have to wait now bought a new van...Fathers Days not faraway LOL.
Sold my Transit Connect just b4 Christmas and got a Peugeot Bipper.
Its a lot better on fuel
Richard
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yeah i used to have a connect two years ago before getting a swb transit. Not sure what i'll get in two years time, maybe a transporter or another tranny.
Transit has a little rust on it but its not gotten any worse in the last two years of owning it, and i've not done anything to stop it.
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Yes there is money in detailing however, to do it properly you cant really be a mobile service... you need premises with all the toys to be able to carry out the work all year round.
I looked into this and unless you have a steady stream of "class" customers willing to pay a premium for your service, you will be struggling to pay the bills.
I enjoy just cleaning seats... easy money and its healthier being outside for a change!
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Tony
I would of gone with a Transporter but i only need a small van, i just load up the van what i need for the day.
I have a large workshop at the end of my garden.
When i was valeting i had Transit swb / Ducato / Dispatch...
Russ
My mate rents out a unit when he needs it.
Richard
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Same as Shaun, decent cordless drill with a drill pad attachment (Ebay few pounds) and some mini bonnets or I have used a cheap plastic cut off toilet brush as well with the drill, new of course ;D.
Good for agitation on stairs, again a pound or two depending on where you shop.
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They are usless for car polishing and even worse for aggitation. If you want electric for aggitation you want an oscilator then you dont damage the fabric. One of these
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/car-machine-polishers.aspx?manufacturerid=30&gclid=CLj75ILczLQCFUbKtAodOwUALw
Ive got a meguiars osc for sale if any one wants it £100.
http://s1279.beta.photobucket.com/user/simon-moat/media/071_zps09d20642.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3#/user/simon-moat/media/070_zps4bfc2c67.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=136146882154305051042624215818
Mine always comes up ok using one ;)
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They are usless for car polishing and even worse for aggitation. If you want electric for aggitation you want an oscilator then you dont damage the fabric. One of these
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/car-machine-polishers.aspx?manufacturerid=30&gclid=CLj75ILczLQCFUbKtAodOwUALw
Ive got a meguiars osc for sale if any one wants it £100.
http://s1279.beta.photobucket.com/user/simon-moat/media/071_zps09d20642.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3#/user/simon-moat/media/070_zps4bfc2c67.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=136146882154305051042624215818
Mine always comes up ok using one ;)
Well I guess it's not true what they say - turns out you CAN polish a turd!
Only joking, don't see many of the Probe's about.
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They are usless for car polishing and even worse for aggitation. If you want electric for aggitation you want an oscilator then you dont damage the fabric. One of these
http://www.theultimatefinish.co.uk/car-machine-polishers.aspx?manufacturerid=30&gclid=CLj75ILczLQCFUbKtAodOwUALw
Ive got a meguiars osc for sale if any one wants it £100.
http://s1279.beta.photobucket.com/user/simon-moat/media/071_zps09d20642.jpg.html?sort=3&o=3#/user/simon-moat/media/070_zps4bfc2c67.jpg.html?sort=3&o=4&_suid=136146882154305051042624215818
Mine always comes up ok using one ;)
Well I guess it's not true what they say - turns out you CAN polish a turd!
Only joking, don't see many of the Probe's about.
It's been called far worse Ash!!!
I've another one which is a rare colour (only made for a year) which is in far better condition, just undergoing a full engine rebuild to keep it sweet.