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Title: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 30, 2012, 10:19:15 am
just for fun and because of the guy selling 3hrs for £90 i thought I would start a poll

any other ways to earn a grand?
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Fran84 on December 30, 2012, 10:38:21 am
I'll give you my answer.

3 rooms for £90. Simply as it should take less than 3 hours to complete.

Lets say it takes 2-2.5 hours. 30 mins travel between the 2 jobs. That makes a max of 6 5.5 hours a day. Still leaving enough time to market.

Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 30, 2012, 11:31:22 am
2000m2 commercial carpet maintained on a Saturday morning/back shift.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on December 30, 2012, 11:40:08 am
Do you mean a week or a day?
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: COLIN BRIGHT on December 30, 2012, 11:44:18 am
I would aim for hall, stairs, landing and lounge / diner at £250 to take 2 hours  x twice a day x 2 days and chill for the rest of the week
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: JandS on December 30, 2012, 11:46:46 am
Options 1 and 2 probably the most viable.
Option 3 you could spend 4 days and still
not get one.
Option 4 probably not an option either for
most people, depending on your location
of course.
Option 5 too much like hard work.

Of the 5 main options I like option 4 as it is
probably the easiest of the options.
Think option 3, for most anyway, isn't an option.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Jamie Pearson on December 30, 2012, 12:53:20 pm
Do you mean a week or a day?

Mon - thurs nights Friday off then sat morn.

£5k week
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: davep on December 30, 2012, 01:46:32 pm
Giz a job
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 30, 2012, 01:57:36 pm
In my opinion if you own a truckmount costing 40 grand plus you should employ or Contract out to a Sales Team who have to find you Big Jobs with Miles of Carpets throughout UK


If only it was that easy.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: *Hector* on December 30, 2012, 02:08:14 pm
how are you Ian?
has the treatment started to work?
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 30, 2012, 04:01:02 pm
Thanks for asking

Had Bone Marrow Stem cell Transplant still have to watch immune system etc everywhere I go come across people with Bad Coughs sens me into panic etc.

But been away for a Week in sheffield, went to pub and Cinema first time in 18 months. Found hills hard going need to build on my fitness and stamina levels

Having Scan mid Jan but last one and blood tests apear to indicate all clear touch wood my head
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: *Hector* on December 30, 2012, 04:12:25 pm
That is good to hear... keep fighting, and the fitness will get back slowly..
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Kinver_Clean on December 30, 2012, 07:59:01 pm
It takes a lot to knock a Norfolkman over.
I come from the east of Norfolk.
Keep the pecker up- keep climbing all those hills. ;D
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 30, 2012, 08:43:29 pm
AS you know we have not got many round hear so I walk up and down stairs etc  as its raining a lot.

I remember you said you also come from Kings Lynn . Its changed a lot but still a small town compared to others.

The Incomers keep complaining about it growing  thats why the roads are useless and takes an hour before we hit National Networks
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Kinver_Clean on December 30, 2012, 09:09:10 pm
That's the charm of the place- except if you live there.
I visit a couple of times a year to clear my head.
It's a very different place to that I knew in my youth.
There's always Redgate hill into Hunston.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Ian Gourlay on December 30, 2012, 09:13:55 pm
Yep came off my bike there at 40 mph when a kid on doward slope.

But they cut it away so its not as steep as was.

Used to Paddle my Connoe from Heacham to Hunstanton during Summer.

Not sure why I came back :o :o
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Kinver_Clean on December 30, 2012, 10:18:17 pm
I spent my boyhood either playing on the steam engines on the scrapyard on the Boal Quay where the pld man used to come out of his shed and shout- now go away you young rascals-  or something to that effect, or mucking around in boats at Snet beach. Now I live as far from the sea as its possible to get.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: feldon on December 30, 2012, 10:40:09 pm
Glad to hear you are on the mend Ian.

Just out of curiosity for those of you who replied "none of the above" does that mean you don't know how you would achieve £1,000 per week or would you have another plan to get there, if so what?
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: david@zap-clean on December 31, 2012, 07:43:00 am
Glad to hear you are on the mend Ian.

Just out of curiosity for those of you who replied "none of the above" does that mean you don't know how you would achieve £1,000 per week or would you have another plan to get there, if so what?
£1000 per week = £250 per day (5dayweek).  None of your poll answers covered that figure.

£1000 per week = about £48,000 (turnover) per year.  Deduct operating costs from that and you have your profit/takings.  Properly managed, this should make the owner/operator a small living wage
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Mike Halliday on December 31, 2012, 08:56:08 am
Errr.. £250 on a 5 day week is £1250 ;)

If you earn £48,000 and half of it is expenses then your small living wage is more than a qualified nurse, police officer, and many other occupations

I think we should all aim for that magical 1 job a week @ a £1000 because now & again we will find it... Not every week but sometimes.

But all the effort we wil put into finding it will have a magical side effect, while waiting for that £1000 job to appear our marketing will bring in lots of £150, £200, £350, £500 jobs  8) 8)
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: JandS on December 31, 2012, 10:06:31 am
Mike

Think Dave means £1250 gross roughly £1000 after tax although
that's not right either because you wouldn't pay tax on the full
amount anyway.
There's your personal allowance to take off and then your outgoings
before you can calculate your tax.
Let's keep it at earning £1000 a week gross for ease.

Also you can't do the other jobs you pull with your £1000 job marketing
because your aim is just one £1000 job a week... ;D
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: david@zap-clean on December 31, 2012, 10:23:50 am
Errr.. £250 on a 5 day week is £1250 ;)

If you earn £48,000 and half of it is expenses then your small living wage is more than a qualified nurse, police officer, and many other occupations

I think we should all aim for that magical 1 job a week @ a £1000 because now & again we will find it... Not every week but sometimes.

But all the effort we wil put into finding it will have a magical side effect, while waiting for that £1000 job to appear our marketing will bring in lots of £150, £200, £350, £500 jobs  8) 8)
£250 on a 5 day week is £1250 - yep, my mistake!

I'm not sure (yet) how much it will cost in marketing to generate that amount of work, but as a start-up I'm not going to make a 50% profit in year 1, no matter how much my turnover ends up to be.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Blacky on January 01, 2013, 09:28:50 pm
Mike, your correct in the 1 grand a week figure you mention. This would provide you with a NET of about £25000 per year.

Remember that the average 'employed worker' on 25 grand a year takes about £100 per day every day of the year (5day week -12 months)
They're also lucky enough not to be worrying about paying for machine repairs, expensive marketing, holiday down time, sickness ect,,

* / If you want to earn an average net salary of £25k whilst been self employed in this game you should add a 8k marketing budget to that figure, takes you to £33k Turnover.
*/ Account for 1.5 months of loss of income for holidays/sickness. This drops your working year to 10.5 months.
*/ Machinery repairs/ servcing for the year - £550.00. This is negligible depending on your equipment.
*/ Diesel for van per month - £ 210.00. Over 10.5 months this equates to £2205.00.
*/ Van Tax - £215.00
*/ Chemicals - £ 450.00
*/ Servicing and repairs on van - £300.00
*/ Phone bills / Internet / Web - £800
*/ Depreciation on vans value - 18% on average - £1710 annual drop on a van costing £9500 van. The percent drops as van ages.
*/ £4500 for re investment for your business and equipment.

With the above in mind, you should be aiming to bring in £43730.00 per annum.
Your weekly takings based on a 10.5 month year needs to be £ 1041.00 per week every week.
In other words – you have to work TWICE as hard as the basic office worker or sales rep with new mondeo who earns your wage without insecuritys and all the other considerations you have to fund.

Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Craigp on January 01, 2013, 09:53:47 pm
A lot of effort in that post Blacky, and I agree, figures are spot on, though I would round up to aim for £50k per year turnover.  8)
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 01, 2013, 10:08:51 pm
No that can't be right .......I have to work twice as hard as a employed person to be on an equal footing ?

But on my figures I am Working 10hrs to take double what  they earn in 40 hrs to achieve, if my outgoing were 50%  I'm still well ahead and when did employment come without insecurities.

I' m in a more secure a position than most employed workers

Lots of smoke &  mirrors in them figures Blacky but there waffle ;) ;)
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Blacky on January 02, 2013, 12:05:33 am
Mike, the figures I have given are very conservative.

If I was being harsh, you will know that the profit of your business should be after you have claimed a wage. So if you claimed a 20k wage based on my figures, your company has taken a profit of 5k for the year. It’s the first question your bank, investor or buyer would ask  - "What is your profit after you have taken a wage".

For you to say that having a paid salary of £25000 a year as an employed person is less viable than shouldering the task of  not only generating, but completing £43000 of work using equipment, vehicles and chemicals paid and maintained by yourself for the same wage is utterly ridiculous.
Self employment is much more enjoyable than working for someone, but don’t for a second think because you take more money you earn more than someone who claims smaller a wage than you.

Not many employees would have the nerve or confidence to generate money for themselves, they slip under the cozy warm wing of corporate life where they can blend into the back ground and hopefully slip under the radar. They do just enough to get them through and not raise any alarms.
The self employed person is on the edge all the time, you don’t work, you don’t eat!.



 
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Carpet Dawg on January 02, 2013, 01:45:53 am
Alot of expenses there Blacky :(

Personly, I dont go through all the hard gaft I go through if i was only walking away with that .

you also forgot accounts fee's and van and business insurance.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: feldon on January 02, 2013, 01:18:02 pm
I decided to use the £90 for 3 rooms for google adwords for my special offer for January a couple of days a ago, got a call this morning and booked a job for 6 rooms for £180, so thanks Mike for giving me the idea.  Waiting to hear back from another caller so that is potentially another job of £90 which might come in. :)
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: mark_roberts on January 02, 2013, 06:58:50 pm
Thats great until you arrive and find the rooms are all 15x15. :'(

Or your local competitor does three for £75 >:(

Mark
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Craigp on January 02, 2013, 07:18:58 pm
Thats the problem your competitors may now copy your offer but for less.
Title: Re: best way to earn a grand
Post by: Ian Gourlay on January 02, 2013, 09:54:04 pm
Im going to do 3 for £60 when I restart.

Or I might do it for Free not even a CUP OF TEA ;D ;D