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Title: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 15, 2012, 06:09:19 pm
Nick here are the videos as promised

Part 1 As it works out of the box  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl4sQYvmJS0)

'Tap connector workaround' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNcvvLNdic)

Using a £12 Whale Pump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IstUQmB-GM)

Using the sureflo and varistream (http://youtu.be/i-KC2JzyEWc)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 15, 2012, 06:25:39 pm
Look Good and looks like it works well,

Down side is the space it takes up in a small van. Should of stuck with the l5, at least that can be mounted up out the way.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: stuart mc on December 15, 2012, 06:51:56 pm
excellent videos, well explained, and I like your sarcastic comments on bolting it down ;D
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on December 15, 2012, 07:06:02 pm
does this heater have a timer/cut off?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 15, 2012, 07:06:56 pm
does this heater have a timer/cut off?

I'm not sure I will check.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 15, 2012, 08:00:51 pm
does this heater have a timer/cut off?

It doesn't seem to have.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on December 15, 2012, 08:15:20 pm
does this heater have a timer/cut off?

It doesn't seem to have.

thanks, thats good.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Dani J on December 15, 2012, 08:25:39 pm
Nick here are the videos as promised

Part 1 As it works out of the box  (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sl4sQYvmJS0)

'Tap connector workaround' (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HaNcvvLNdic)

Using a £12 Whale Pump (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8IstUQmB-GM)

Using the sureflo and varistream (http://youtu.be/i-KC2JzyEWc)

Well done sunshine, great video.

How much are these ?

where did you buy it?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 15, 2012, 08:30:40 pm
Take your pick (http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=kampa+geyser&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADSA_enGB497GB497&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.d2k&bpcl=39967673&biw=1389&bih=804&wrapid=tlif135560337216510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=8450322269904886324&sa=X&ei=t93MUJv6G-eX1AXzsIDoCg&ved=0CE0QgggwAA)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: dave0123 on December 15, 2012, 09:02:00 pm
is the gas inside the heater or separate standard bottle
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: A-W-C on December 15, 2012, 09:17:09 pm
I just got one off ebay for £60  ;D
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: bobplum on December 15, 2012, 09:17:36 pm
the metal water out let arm can it not be removed and simply run a hose to the machine
also the connection box you used for the cigarette lighter connection were would you purchase one of these

otherwise im liking this machine,it just seems more robust than the other lpg heaters

cheers bob
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: stuart mc on December 15, 2012, 09:20:09 pm
I just got one off ebay for £60  ;D

got a link
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: A-W-C on December 15, 2012, 09:22:23 pm
I just got one off ebay for £60  ;D

got a link

It was a one off  ;)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Dani J on December 15, 2012, 09:26:05 pm
Take your pick (http://www.google.co.uk/products/catalog?q=kampa+geyser&hl=en&rlz=1T4ADSA_enGB497GB497&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.r_cp.r_qf.&bvm=bv.1355325884,d.d2k&bpcl=39967673&biw=1389&bih=804&wrapid=tlif135560337216510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&cid=8450322269904886324&sa=X&ei=t93MUJv6G-eX1AXzsIDoCg&ved=0CE0QgggwAA)

Thanks mate  :)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Nick_Thompson on December 15, 2012, 10:20:28 pm
Hi Stuart!

I very much appreciate your taking the time and trouble in posting these videos.

I think your ingenuity and inventiveness has opened up the possibilities for us all on this subject.

We now have an alternative to the already established water heating procedures.

Thank you very much indeed.

Nick
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: sham33 on December 15, 2012, 11:11:52 pm
Hi, how long can it run on a full battery?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: jr windows on December 15, 2012, 11:14:58 pm
I bidded £59.56 and you won it for £60.56 :)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: A-W-C on December 15, 2012, 11:21:07 pm
I bidded £59.56 and you won it for £60.56 :)

I have the knack ;)  ;D
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: jr windows on December 15, 2012, 11:23:12 pm
Nah, I'm just a tight arse
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: A-W-C on December 15, 2012, 11:24:39 pm
Nah, I'm just a tight arse

Maybe but i still have the knack oh and ye the heater for £60.56  ;D
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: jr windows on December 15, 2012, 11:27:01 pm
Enjoy m8 and well done :)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: A-W-C on December 15, 2012, 11:27:55 pm
Enjoy m8 and well done :)

Cheers fella will do  ;)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: GoodFella2006 on December 16, 2012, 01:02:19 am
Don't fight over it  ;D
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: richard jagger on December 16, 2012, 03:45:49 am
fantastic. :D :D :D :D




http://www.campingworld.co.uk/News.aspx?NewsID=156
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Dani J on December 16, 2012, 09:24:40 am
fantastic. :D :D :D :D




http://www.campingworld.co.uk/News.aspx?NewsID=156

I just found a little fault which is not a real fault really but wont do that well with water fed pole system and that is :
it say that it only heat the water to 55 degrees and that’s not enough, think of it this way, when you are cleaning a house and have to reach to 50 meters, by the time that water reach’s to the top of you brush it probably be 10-20 degrees and in the winter probably lower.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: bobplum on December 16, 2012, 10:18:13 am
firstly i have never cleaned a house at 50 mts,
secondly,for me hot water is an option,ie conny roofs,first cleans

i think for everyday maintenance cleans the chances are in summer i would be using cold anyway

i think this macine looks more robust but admit we would need more feed back on from peoples experiences
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: lee_dewing on December 16, 2012, 12:38:37 pm
Well done sunshine thanks for all the vids.

Was thinking of doing something, but (i'm lazy ;D) don't want to be doing all the extra plumbing and trying to fit all in van have ford escort, probably as much room as your van.

Do you tell your van insurance company about carrying gas, just wondered as this would probably pump up the costs? (just curious)

Would i be wasting my time having the heater at my parents garage where ro setup is.
was thinking when i fill my barrels (don't have tank in van) from 625 ibc tank could i fill barrels warm?
Would that plumb together ok, have submersible pump in ibc takes under 1 min to fill a barrel i think.

Just thinking barrels would be warm not for long but just for the days when waiting for temps to creep up over 0c.

Been going out 11-ish recently when temps gone up.

Lee
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Dani J on December 16, 2012, 01:30:06 pm
firstly i have never cleaned a house at 50 mts,
secondly,for me hot water is an option,ie conny roofs,first cleans

i think for everyday maintenance cleans the chances are in summer i would be using cold anyway

i think this macine looks more robust but admit we would need more feed back on from peoples experiences

Well thats you,  i was talking in general, i have a hot system and at the base is 80 degrees but by the time is out of the brush its about 50 degrees, which i can wash a Conny and remove grease and dirt much easer with 50 degrees.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: richard jagger on December 16, 2012, 01:55:37 pm
THEN INSULATE DEAR LEE EE DEAR LEE EE THEN INSULATE YOUR BARRELS .DEAR LEEEEE insulate!
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 02:22:08 pm
Well done sunshine thanks for all the vids.

Was thinking of doing something, but (i'm lazy ;D) don't want to be doing all the extra plumbing and trying to fit all in van have ford escort, probably as much room as your van.

Do you tell your van insurance company about carrying gas, just wondered as this would probably pump up the costs? (just curious)

Would i be wasting my time having the heater at my parents garage where ro setup is.
was thinking when i fill my barrels (don't have tank in van) from 625 ibc tank could i fill barrels warm?
Would that plumb together ok, have submersible pump in ibc takes under 1 min to fill a barrel i think.

Just thinking barrels would be warm not for long but just for the days when waiting for temps to creep up over 0c.

Been going out 11-ish recently when temps gone up.

Lee


I'm not sure what temperature you would get if you passed it through from your ICB to the barrels.
If it is working at 25L per minute I guess it wont be that hot. Plus passing through any heater will slow down the flow rate. So it may take longer to fill.
I could always time it and see what the temp is after if you like.
For you having the barrels hot to start with would help as long as you filled them each morning rather than evening.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 02:25:04 pm
fantastic. :D :D :D :D




http://www.campingworld.co.uk/News.aspx?NewsID=156

I just found a little fault which is not a real fault really but wont do that well with water fed pole system and that is :
it say that it only heat the water to 55 degrees and that’s not enough, think of it this way, when you are cleaning a house and have to reach to 50 meters, by the time that water reach’s to the top of you brush it probably be 10-20 degrees and in the winter probably lower.


On my L5 it say only 57 deg I have had my hose out at 100m and still nice and hot at the brush end
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 02:31:19 pm


Do you tell your van insurance company about carrying gas, just wondered as this would probably pump up the costs? (just curious)


Told mine and didn't go up. As long as you put the lpg warning sticker, by law it has to be on,  on the back of the van you will be covered, if not then if anything happened with it then insurance might not pay out.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 05:22:37 pm
The temperature is lower than the L5. It depends on the rate of flow going in.
It works on a lower flow than the L5. Going in on 4 it gives a 35° c rise, the L5 gives 45°+
On full speed the rise is 20° Or so.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 05:29:42 pm
The temperature is lower than the L5. It depends on the rate of flow going in.
It works on a lower flow than the L5. Going in on 4 it gives a 35° c rise, the L5 gives 45°+
On full speed the rise is 20° Or so.

With the system I have the water pressure runs at 25psi and it works fine,
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 05:41:04 pm
I would say it is the rate of flow not the pressure that makes the difference.

What system are you using Richard?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 05:49:01 pm
I would say it is the rate of flow not the pressure that makes the difference.

What system are you using Richard?

I built my own system from scratch. Built my own controllers, they controls the motor on the pump not the psi,unlike the digital controllers do.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 05:49:54 pm
Do you have any pictures?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 05:51:41 pm
I would say it is the rate of flow not the pressure that makes the difference.

What system are you using Richard?

I built my own system from scratch. Built my own controllers, they controls the motor on the pump not the psi,unlike the digital controllers do.

I'm confused? Are you saying that the flow rate on the varistream is actualy controling the pressure not the speed of the motor?
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 05:52:58 pm
I have a few video tours of my van, haven't got an upto date video yet.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 05:58:07 pm
I would say it is the rate of flow not the pressure that makes the difference.

What system are you using Richard?

I built my own system from scratch. Built my own controllers, they controls the motor on the pump not the psi,unlike the digital controllers do.

I'm confused? Are you saying that the flow rate on the varistream is actualy controling the pressure not the speed of the motor?
They control the voltage to the pump, my controller doesn't control the voltage like most do, as a result of this, the pump will keep the same flow no matter how high you use your pole.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 16, 2012, 07:36:43 pm
I have a few video tours of my van, haven't got an upto date video yet.

I've just looked at your videos. Very good Richard. You should make some more. I used your idea of the controller for my mobile case.
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 07:39:54 pm
I have a few video tours of my van, haven't got an upto date video yet.

I've just looked at your videos. Very good Richard. You should make some more. I used your idea of the controller for my mobile case.
You found them on YouTube then. Thanks. Yer they are good for that sort of thing to!
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Nick_Thompson on December 16, 2012, 07:50:06 pm
YouTube link please!  :)
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 07:56:37 pm
YouTube link please!  :)

http://www.youtube.com/user/RCPropertyMaintenanc/videos?flow=grid&view=0
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: Nick_Thompson on December 16, 2012, 08:35:38 pm
Thanks Richard!

A well thought out and tidy set up. I love the professional plumbing. I too used to reconfigure my brushes so that the jets sat on top of the stock, Jeff Brimble style.

Nick

 
Title: Re: Kampa Heater for Nick Thompson
Post by: R.C Property on December 16, 2012, 09:12:05 pm
Thanks Richard!

A well thought out and tidy set up. I love the professional plumbing. I too used to reconfigure my brushes so that the jets sat on top of the stock, Jeff Brimble style.

Nick

 
Yer took about a week from buying the van to get it to that stage. Yer I like the jets at the top, especially when you are cleaning 4th floor windows you don't need to lift brush off glass!