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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: SunShineCleaning on December 14, 2012, 02:18:53 pm

Title: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 14, 2012, 02:18:53 pm
It's a little bit better than before:

This one is too short to fall asleep to.... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPMv-3VpGCg)
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Mike #1 on December 14, 2012, 02:25:06 pm
Cant see the blue ratchet straps been much good in an accident it is the forward force when you break that will cause the containers to move .

And unfortunately you might just get crushed to death in a 30 mph crash with the tank and containers as the anchorage points wont be strong enough , Sorry Mike
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 14, 2012, 02:29:36 pm
Oh well I've had a good life...........
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Window Washers on December 14, 2012, 02:34:17 pm
so just to ask, do you have shares in a ratchet strap company ?
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Post by: roundbuilder on December 14, 2012, 02:34:28 pm
You sure love the word ratchet lol. Good video though safety should come first.
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 14, 2012, 02:36:55 pm
I really should script the videos first eh?

I bought a pack of 4 today just to help me survive until the world ends on the 21st...
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Post by: trevor perry on December 14, 2012, 04:27:17 pm
with the amount of videos you have posted lately do you have the camera ratchet strapped to your head  ;D ;D
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Post by: windiewasher on December 14, 2012, 04:45:56 pm
Think you should get a bulkhead.
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Post by: Slash on December 14, 2012, 06:42:54 pm
Why don't you just buy a bigget tank and frame and get it fitted properly,I could'nt be messing about with barrells and all that caper,when you can't open the lids on them do you use a ratchet.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.............................................. ???
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Gray1 on December 14, 2012, 07:49:11 pm
Yep get a bulkhead and a bigger tank in a propper frame.

Every litre of water is a kilo now multiply that by at least 25 and that is what will be hitting you in the back at 30 mph!

Ditch the containers and go back for a refill.

atb

Gray1
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Spruce on December 14, 2012, 07:56:11 pm
Why don't you just buy a bigget tank and frame and get it fitted properly,I could'nt be messing about with barrells and all that caper,when you can't open the lids on them do you use a ratchet.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.............................................. ???

That was explained on his setup video that he made.
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Mike #1 on December 14, 2012, 08:28:55 pm
Why don't you just buy a bigget tank and frame and get it fitted properly,I could'nt be messing about with barrells and all that caper,when you can't open the lids on them do you use a ratchet.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D.............................................. ???

Got agree,   I do have my 400 ltr flat tank strapped in but i have a double bulkhead anti slip matting underneath tank and dunnage at each side of tank as advised by sister in laws husband who has worked in transport for over 10 yrs in armed forces . Mike
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 14, 2012, 08:53:08 pm
It's explained in the video I think, I could always make another to explain it if you like.

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Post by: telfordwindowclnr on December 14, 2012, 11:14:16 pm
It's explained in the video I think, I could always make another to explain it if you like.


If you do, can you ratchet up the excitement in the vid...
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Post by: stuart mc on December 14, 2012, 11:34:14 pm
I once crashed a truck head on with about 80 containers in the back weighing about 35 to 40 kg each all stacked like that or similar, even though it was a truck it was into a bigger truck, an armoured hungarian personnel carrier, and guess what? not one container moved, I lost both front wheels and the front diff stopped me going down a cliff but the load was fine :-\ none of it was strapped in either
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: GoodFella2006 on December 15, 2012, 02:07:40 am
If the tank is fitted right at the back,at an accident it will come off its bolting points and travel to the front picking some speed and hit you.That's dangerous.

If the tank is fitted right behind you,and there is a bulkhead or a metal bar,it won't pick any speed so no impact,it might just push a bit.

If we look at those crush tests,there is a gap between the driver seat and the tank.

And they should test it with a bulkhead or a metal bar.

That's just my thought.
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Post by: GoodFella2006 on December 15, 2012, 02:18:52 am
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhVrCGTqVqA

If you look carefully,you will see ionics tank is not full of water,just over the half !!!

And the first tank is only strapped down with one rachet,it's twice bigger,probably fully full of water.

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Post by: Mist A Bit on December 15, 2012, 10:04:46 am
if a dhl van is carrying parcels which can weigh upto 25kgs each do they strap every parcel down? i dont belive that having cargo or equipment in a van is safe compared to an empty van.
even an exstension pole could shoot forwards and put a hole in the back of your head.
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Post by: Rob Knapman on December 15, 2012, 01:29:44 pm
DHL vans have bulkheads for that very reason.
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Post by: Mist A Bit on December 15, 2012, 02:31:53 pm
I have a bulkhead so  i can now leave everything unsecure.
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Mike #1 on December 16, 2012, 05:58:42 am
It's explained in the video I think, I could always make another to explain it if you like.



Not having a go mate , Yes the tank is well strapped down with two 5 ton ratchet straps because of suggestions as you say,  But in a 30 mph crash their is a good chance that if you are fully loaded you could end up crushed .

And i am sure no one on here wants anybody to have an accident that is all anybody is pointing out .

I used to carry 10 containers = 250 ltrs of water plus a PF trolley in the back of a suzuki ignis and then in the back of a grand vitara for over 3 yrs so i cant really preach . Mike


Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Dave Willis on December 16, 2012, 07:38:31 am
Makes me laugh to be honest. Not having a go at anyone in particular, but they have these training courses where you learn how to switch a gutter vac on, how to put a ladder up, how to wiggle a squeegie, how to cordon an area off, how you must not stand on a flat roof, how to do a risk assessment etc etc and yet you can drive a death trap of your own making and put your employees in it if you wish. Madness
Title: Re: "The back of the van is dangerous son..."
Post by: Window Washers on December 16, 2012, 10:52:09 am
Makes me laugh to be honest. Not having a go at anyone in particular, but they have these training courses where you learn how to switch a gutter vac on, how to put a ladder up, how to wiggle a squeegie, how to cordon an area off, how you must not stand on a flat roof, how to do a risk assessment etc etc and yet you can drive a death trap of your own making and put your employees in it if you wish. Madness
dave on some of the training courses they go over this very subject and explain it to people. some people just don't think which is very worrying, You would would be very socked at some of the vans and systems I get to see.
At the end of the day if these courses prevent just one life changing/ending accident they are worth it. Of course that's IMO and I have a bias I know this post was not aimed at me.
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Post by: Dave Willis on December 16, 2012, 12:19:11 pm
Like I said it's not aimed at anyone, but of all the dangers related to wfp (hardly any) this one stands out like a sore thumb to me and yet seems completely overlooked by health and safety etc. Even the insurance companies would rather penalise someone for being safe than reduce their premium for bolting the weight down. Nuts  ???