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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: LWC on December 11, 2012, 10:49:41 pm

Title: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: LWC on December 11, 2012, 10:49:41 pm
I dont know why i keep going back to this customer the never leave gate open even tho i text them then ive had this email today

"Hi
Sorry the back gate was opened this morning, I had to go to a physio appointment following a RTA.  Unfortunately we are not prepared to pay for what you done as the front porch windows were still frozen.  It wasn't really the morning to be cleaning windows."

Ive got a clever reply coming up but i think im just on a rage now. 2 of the windows froze when i cleaned the glass not that bad tho. I dont see the prob rest of house was fine.
Title: Re: what would you say to this
Post by: supernova77 on December 11, 2012, 10:55:46 pm
I would reply and tell them to pay £1 less because of the frozen window... Then once they've paid just never go back.

Andy
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: G Griffin on December 11, 2012, 10:58:10 pm
It really wasn't a day to be driving, either.
Get well soon.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: LWC on December 11, 2012, 10:59:23 pm
LOL Griffin thats cheered me up.

No but i am thinking of saying this is our only income, if we stopped because weather was cold we wouldnt earn anything. Unfortunately we will no longer be cleaning your windows.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: CLEANCARE WC on December 11, 2012, 11:01:38 pm
i clean windows EVERYDAY for customers who leave the gate open when requested and who appreciate my all year all weather  service...consider your ass dumped beeeeatch!
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Cliff perkins on December 11, 2012, 11:01:53 pm
Hiya
Id go back clean the frozen windows again and get paid.
If you want to leave them do so but dont get a bad reputation make sure they are happy 1st.

Sometimes you gotta do stuff u dont like doing.

Goodluck
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: LWC on December 11, 2012, 11:03:57 pm
They have been constant messers of late, i know what your saying cliff im usually alot more professional than this but theyve got my back up!
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Richard iSparkle on December 11, 2012, 11:34:06 pm
the simple answer is that your windows will be clean despite the ice.  when the ice melts if they are not up to the expected standard please call me and we'll come back.

Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Tom White on December 12, 2012, 12:29:06 am
the simple answer is that your windows will be clean despite the ice.  when the ice melts if they are not up to the expected standard please call me and we'll come back.



Yes, spot on, but write it, don't text it, then wrap the note around half-a-brick and...

No, don't, I'm only joking.

And neither should you strew a handful of carpet tacks over their drive; defo not.

Personally, I'd consider all these 'nasty options', then I'd let it go, I wouldn't reply to them, I just wouldn't go back either.

Flip 'em!
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Mike #1 on December 12, 2012, 05:34:11 am
By now the glass is unfrozen and spotlessly clean so that takes care of complaint . Collect payment and dump you can do without the hassle mate . Mike
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Ian101 on December 12, 2012, 07:02:15 am
APART FROM THAT .......................

is the best phrase for unmasking any real problems - used it all the time when closing car sales.

"so apart from the frozen porch are you happy ?"

if yes is answer then fine just redo the offending glass

if no then you need to dig deeper





how full are you ........ if bursting at seams then time to say bye bye if serial messers.

if you need work then only you can decide what to do.  :)

remember the 3 C's of window cleaning .................. its in my tag line just under this bit  ;)
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Window Washers on December 12, 2012, 07:17:52 am
APART FROM THAT .......................

is the best phrase for unmasking any real problems - used it all the time when closing car sales.

"so apart from the frozen porch are you happy ?"

if yes is answer then fine just redo the offending glass

if no then you need to dig deeper





how full are you ........ if bursting at seams then time to say bye bye if serial messers.

if you need work then only you can decide what to do
great post Ian
Title: Re: what would you say to this
Post by: colin purewater on December 12, 2012, 07:38:12 am
I would reply and tell them to pay £1 less because of the frozen window... Then once they've paid just never go back.

Andy

Beat me to it
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: steven ainger on December 12, 2012, 08:01:25 am
It really wasn't a day to be driving, either.
Get well soon.

Classic  ;D ;D youve got to send this reply,
Oh, dump & replace with 2 more, someone had to say it.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: AshWhite on December 12, 2012, 08:08:49 am
APART FROM THAT .......................

is the best phrase for unmasking any real problems - used it all the time when closing car sales.

"so apart from the frozen porch are you happy ?"

if yes is answer then fine just redo the offending glass

if no then you need to dig deeper





how full are you ........ if bursting at seams then time to say bye bye if serial messers.

if you need work then only you can decide what to do.  :)

remember the 3 C's of window cleaning .................. its in my tag line just under this bit  ;)

Classic motor trade close.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: sham33 on December 12, 2012, 08:17:43 am
Ok np, pay me when they thaw out. Sorted.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Window Washers on December 12, 2012, 08:24:07 am
APART FROM THAT .......................

is the best phrase for unmasking any real problems - used it all the time when closing car sales.

"so apart from the frozen porch are you happy ?"

if yes is answer then fine just redo the offending glass

if no then you need to dig deeper





how full are you ........ if bursting at seams then time to say bye bye if serial messers.

if you need work then only you can decide what to do.  :)

remember the 3 C's of window cleaning .................. its in my tag line just under this bit  ;)

Classic motor trade close.
i thought that's just normal practice in any business. Just getting rid is not the answer although a lot easier
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Ian101 on December 12, 2012, 08:33:46 am
APART FROM THAT .......................

is the best phrase for unmasking any real problems - used it all the time when closing car sales.

"so apart from the frozen porch are you happy ?"

if yes is answer then fine just redo the offending glass

if no then you need to dig deeper





how full are you ........ if bursting at seams then time to say bye bye if serial messers.

if you need work then only you can decide what to do.  :)

remember the 3 C's of window cleaning .................. its in my tag line just under this bit  ;)

Classic motor trade close.

Yup but handy in lots of situations ............ then there is NLP but not too much up on that
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: G Griffin on December 12, 2012, 08:53:36 am
From the e-mail, I would say they're not interested in the porch windows being re-done and they just don't want to pay. You could offer, LWC, and see what they say.

In these situations, I try and do the 'right' thing, so that I can look them in the eye because I have the moral high ground  ;). I couldn't do that if I'd egged their windows, as tempting as it is.
Don't stoop to their level and remember some people don't deserve a decent window cleaner.
Forget 'um.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Nick Wareham on December 12, 2012, 09:48:54 am
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Just getting rid is not the answer

Totally wrong.  "just getting rid" is EXACTLY the answer.

One of the best perks of window cleaning is not having to put up with knob heads.  Customers need you MUCH more than you need them.

Don't bother with clever or sarcastic replies, you'll only get a sarcastic one back and on and on it goes.  Just dump them and never think about them again. Replace them with a better customer.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: gewindows on December 12, 2012, 12:41:23 pm
You could always say it was your way of getting any BAH-HUMBUG customers into the festive spirit by decorating one of their windows with Jack Frost.

Some people always see the bad side of something, we however endeavour to see the positive ;-)
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: g.brookes on December 12, 2012, 01:05:48 pm
Am i hearing this right? You iced up two of their windows.  what is the problem?  They pay you to remove stuff from the windows, not load stuff on.  I would have left a note straight away knocking a pound off the price, or got my ice scraper out and got it off myself. 
You havent done what youre supposed to do.  I also would have an issue if you came and cleaned my windows and left ice on them
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: robbo333 on December 12, 2012, 02:04:47 pm
Am i hearing this right? You iced up two of their windows.  what is the problem?  They pay you to remove stuff from the windows, not load stuff on.  I would have left a note straight away knocking a pound off the price, or got my ice scraper out and got it off myself. 
You havent done what youre supposed to do.  I also would have an issue if you came and cleaned my windows and left ice on them


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Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: roundbuilder on December 12, 2012, 02:13:21 pm
id have took it on the chin if is a normally good paying customer.
i have never had water iceing on the glass but if i did id shut up shop for the day as if it freezes on glass then it will freeze on pavement and floor too. id rather lose a tenner than have a claim to pay out for someone breaking there kneck on the frozen ice caused by water.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: CleanClear on December 12, 2012, 03:07:26 pm
Am i hearing this right? You iced up two of their windows.  what is the problem?  They pay you to remove stuff from the windows, not load stuff on.  I would have left a note straight away knocking a pound off the price, or got my ice scraper out and got it off myself. 
You havent done what youre supposed to do.  I also would have an issue if you came and cleaned my windows and left ice on them


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Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Carl2009 on December 12, 2012, 04:42:53 pm
I tend to agree - if panes are freezing over I don't bother working, or charge for what i've done if i've started and it all starts to go tuts up. I've had it a few times and expect more this winter. I also worry about damage to pumps and filters in the van if its massively cold.

Of course it does depend a bit on which window was frozen over and also if you are 100% sure when it melts it will be clean. If it's a garage window or one of 30 on a house its a different matter (and there again it wouldn't be a tenner) - i'd expect payment, perhaps less a quid.

Notwithstanding this these people don't appreciate your services simply because of the way they spoke to you and treat you on a regular basis (i.e. forgeting gates - once is OK, but a serial offender... nah); treat people as you expect to be treated I always say. If they had bothered to call and speak to you you might have had a chance to explain.

I'd bin 'em and replace.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: LWC on December 12, 2012, 04:54:33 pm
A simple phone call would of done, i was in town all day i would of gone back and done something about it if id of known was going to be a massive issues. Now binned anyway.
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: Tom ling on December 12, 2012, 06:08:56 pm
It really wasn't a day to be driving, either.
Get well soon.

haha  ;D
Title: Re: what would you say to this - windows froze we wont pay
Post by: telfordwindowclnr on December 12, 2012, 08:22:44 pm
the simple answer is that your windows will be clean despite the ice.  when the ice melts if they are not up to the expected standard please call me and we'll come back.


Here here!