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Title: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: JackieW on December 11, 2012, 08:06:23 am
I've recently started using water fed pole system. This is my first morning with a hard frost. I've just poured a little water on my own garden  timber decking and paved patio. The water has frozen on the ground.

How do some of you other guys manage with this? Seems dangerous to be having the water turning to ice around a customers house. Hot water I'm assuming will freeze too.

Do you carry and put down lots and lots and lots of rocksalt at every house?

I'm just sat here wondering whether to go out.

Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: andyM on December 11, 2012, 08:13:36 am
Put rock salt down first.
Sweep standing water away from the area.
Trad clean downstairs windows and doors to minimise standing water.
Stay at home in the warm with tea and biscuits.
Hibernate until the Spring.

^
Take your pick.  ;D
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: SunShineCleaning on December 11, 2012, 08:14:02 am
Not lots and lot and lots of rocksalt just enough to deal with the water Ihave left. I also turn my flow down to the min I can clean with.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Granny on December 11, 2012, 08:15:03 am
Hi Jackie
My first winter same dilemma.  I would say carry rock salt but we definitely trad the doors when it's freezing and I have skipped some bathroom / toilet windows over doorways.
G.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 08:26:07 am
I don't wash doors when its this cold (it frickin freezing this morning) doesn't mater if your hot or not the water will freeze we do t use rock salt it will stain people's carpets we use pure white instead
If your worried about it wait till the temp rises , but you will be doing that alot between now and march. Welcome to the not so nice side of window cleaning
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 08:57:06 am
Since when do you work outside Ian :p
thats hurtful   8)
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: dazmond on December 11, 2012, 09:03:44 am
its a hard frost here in manchester as well.

trad doors and porches

sweep standing water away

put salt/grit down on pathways(but ask the customer first as some dont like it!!)

i still use a high flow as i can work quicker!!

go out later(say 10am-11am)


thats all you can do really.if hoses start to freeze as well then its home time and feet up or xmas shopping(not bought a single pressie yet!! ;D ;D)


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Ian101 on December 11, 2012, 09:05:23 am
We've just finished a commercial and in Tescos having brekky waiting for things to warm up.

You just need to be sensible, trad all doors, trad any windows above paths, point water at walls not floor when moving about.

Some days u can have to start later, no breaks, or just accept some days u won't be working.

I never have used salt IMO if too cold take day off.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: concept on December 11, 2012, 09:06:59 am
Since when do you work outside Ian :p

Exactly.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 10:05:31 am
Since when do you work outside Ian :p

Exactly.
hahahaha , I will have you know i will be working this week on Thursday and its outside so there  :P
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Carl@Cwc on December 11, 2012, 11:34:38 am
keep going. clean. put salt down ,collect money ,move on.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Carl2009 on December 11, 2012, 05:28:40 pm
+1
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: richard jagger on December 11, 2012, 05:41:37 pm
Every wants to clean window. Its time like these that its a crap job I hope all the newbies and those considering this job are tuned in. Its not all heaven.Winter is a tough time for use all some time no income due to weather or the chance of falling. So pay heed its not all milk and honey.This will make you wish you did not chuck up that nice indoor job and love that pain in the ass boss. A salary in the bank even when its snows.Every one spouts forth about the joys of w.c and been your own boss it can be crap if you don`t have cash in the bank to tide you over.Were do you find this extra when you are new at it. Its not easy.


  O K now lets hear the chat back from the gallery..
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: DaveG on December 11, 2012, 05:55:56 pm
Same as "The Carls" above
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: JackieW on December 11, 2012, 06:01:28 pm
So I went later when the temperature had risen. About 10.30. Called into Lidl's to get some rocksalt. Read instructions. Don't put down near lawns and plants and gardens and some paving slabs that may discolour. So I didn't bother buying any.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: AuRavelling79 on December 11, 2012, 06:09:32 pm
Start a bit later.
Blade or scrim front doors.
Brush away water with stiff broom.
Salt exposed paths and doorway areas.
If likely to freeze overnight finish a bit earlier.

Prepare van the day before; switch immersion timer on.

Have tea.

Sleep.

Get up and eat breakfast.

Repeat.

Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Ian101 on December 11, 2012, 06:51:13 pm
Start a bit later.
Blade or scrim front doors.
Brush away water with stiff broom.
Salt exposed paths and doorway areas.
If likely to freeze overnight finish a bit earlier.

Prepare van the day before; switch immersion timer on.

Have tea.

Sleep.

Get up and eat breakfast.

Repeat.



and before you know it spring has arrived !  ;D ........ and winter a distant memory ... now in my 3rd winter as a windie and loving it.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 08:21:00 pm
I've just discovered you can 'warm the ground up' if you keep adding more water. I was told this by an expert.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: gary999 on December 11, 2012, 08:23:24 pm
mr willis you little tinker ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 08:29:09 pm
I've just discovered you can 'warm the ground up' if you keep adding more water. I was told this by an expert.
the ground is a little bit different than a pane of glass Dave.
I'm not biting today it's not worth it
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 08:32:28 pm
No, i do it all the time. if the water starts freezing then I just add more. The water in your van is warmer than the ground and simply warms it up and it all melts away.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 08:37:26 pm
No, i do it all the time. if the water starts freezing then I just add more. The water in your van is warmer than the ground and simply warms it up and it all melts away.
dave I'm not rising to it mate. I know what I meant
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Dave Willis on December 11, 2012, 08:39:20 pm
You already have.
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Window Washers on December 11, 2012, 08:43:23 pm
You already have.
just not anymore, enjoy your evening
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: Nick Wareham on December 12, 2012, 09:55:19 am
Quote
I've just discovered you can 'warm the ground up' if you keep adding more water. I was told this by an expert.

 :o  ;D  :o  ;D  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: Water freezing on the ground. Do you carry on?
Post by: LT carpet cleaning on December 12, 2012, 10:13:08 am
Grow a pair and get out there!  ;)

Seriously, when I cleaned windows in anger I cannot recall getting up to see -6 in the van!

It's a tough job in these conditions. Good luck!