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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: oliver collins on December 07, 2012, 10:08:20 pm
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Hi.
Finally got my electric power sprayer up and running and used it with smp and Heavy duty microspliters and finally got good results by laying the product down really thick any one else had this?
Down side my hands are dry and dried out from using this product
Any body else find this or not ?
Oliver Collins rise n shine cleaning
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SPM is my spray of choice at the moment.
I hope I am not teaching you to suck eggs but-
It should be mixed 15 gr / litre in hot hand hot water ie you can put your hand under it but not hold it there, around 60 deg C. It should not be stored so mix enough for the job in hand.
I find 5 lt will clean a 4 bed house with little left over. It does not need over applying.
It must be brushed in properly- an electric brush is a help but a reasonably stiff pile brush will do if you are energetic.
10-15 mins dwell time to allow the oxy bi to work.
Rinse out with warm or cold water with the usual drying strokes.
I clean a lot of EOTs and some are really bad and come up well. A kettle is essential for cold EOTs
Do NOT mix with anything else this will stop the proper action taking place.
Keep it off your hands - no need to handle it or wet your hands- if you cannot help it wear the famous marigolds!!!
I hope this helps- it is quite spectacular at times very good the rest.
I use it for everything except real 'scrappers' where Shockwave is a last resort.
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How are you getting so much of the product on your hand that it is having an adverse reaction? But I've been using it for years without a problem and on suite cleaning I will use it to wash my hands 4-5 times on the job
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and it can be boosted with soluboost as well if need be...........................
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May just be the cold weather messing with your hands
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Get some Neutregena http://www.neutrogena.co.uk/product/hand?gclid=CMiYmMi5irQCFUfJtAod9GwASA (http://www.neutrogena.co.uk/product/hand?gclid=CMiYmMi5irQCFUfJtAod9GwASA)
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...I'm going to regret saying that, aren't I...
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Did you used to be called Davina?
;D ;D
(yes you are)
;D
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see, I told you... :)
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...I'm going to regret saying that, aren't I...
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1354958117_tin hat.jpg)
you may need this....... Davina :-* :-*
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You should all be wearing gloves when either mixing or cleaning.
Microsplitters are salt solution so will tend to dry out your skin. Maybe some of the bigger companies who spend millions developing their products have additives to lessen this.
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Here is a video i made :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZtyZgoNMpW8
It features a poly prop carpet, SPM and a freezing cold rinse.
I find the key to achieving good results is to use a machine such as the TM4 featured in the video, the SPM was applied tap hot and the TM4 did the rest, ended up extracting at about 200 psi, several dry stokes and the job was a good'un.
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Good video Russ, just wondering, why rinse with cold water when you have a truckmount and hot water dries quicker?
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Hi Russ
I like your new videos mate ;)
Richard
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Early stages of dermatitis methinks :'( ???
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John's right, if you dislike using heavy duty gloves try these http://www.broschdirect.com/disposable-gloves/non-sterile-nitrile-gloves/cat_20.html (http://www.broschdirect.com/disposable-gloves/non-sterile-nitrile-gloves/cat_20.html) I use the black ones and they last better than you'd expect.
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Hi
I don't get any on my hands I have a plan mixing plan,small amount of hot water in the bottom of a bucket add powder using a long handled edging brush to mix it up
Oliver Collins
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Thanks for the compliments guys, at the time i was awaiting a part for the prowler and so the Jag stepped in.
The point is this... Microsplitting pre sprays do not rely on hot water to make them work better compared to regular detergents, yes i will agree that working with hot water will in some cases leave a carpet drier, but on some jobs especially EOT's where the hot water tank has been off for days... there is no access to hot water.
When i mean the rinse water was cold... it was cold!!!
Lots of variety available, i choose SPM because its economical to use and works very well.
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What is suppose to be the reason behind using 'microsplitter 'anyway :)
Most non 'microsplitter' carpet cleaning products contain ' Microsplitter ' ie phosphates anyway , so why not use the more complicated formulas for a better chance of easier cleaning .
The original marketed use of 'microsplitter' in carpet cleaning as far as i can google , it was suppose to solve a resoiling issue ( never proved ) and probably based on soap products not detergents ... and probably just marketing spiel anyway , also its suppose to be safer for the operator to use , although this is based on STP i believe not soda ash used in SPM . Also causes Eutrophication so cant be an eco chemical proper .
The Cold water thing seems to come along much later , probably from cleantalk , im sure they had their reasons to push cold water cleaning :) But it seems obvious to me that if most other carpet cleaning products ( falling into the detergent category ) also contain phosphates then they should also work at least as well as ' microsplitter ' at a given temperature .
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Wasn't the idea of ms to apply it with a small mist than a good wetting?
I like pure clean as yet not tried spm I will get round to it but I'm happy with my formula 90 pre spraying it works for me.
Shaun
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Hi Shaun
I only use formul 90 as a prespray it's my fav,never used it in tank as I don't want to blow a vac on my storm with the foam that it creates
Oliver Collins
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Formula 90 ... contains 'microsplitter ' + a few other things likely beneficial for effective cleaning.
Not sure about the misting Shaun ... could be part of the prevent resoling philosophy , use less chemical .
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Foam...
Since i have been using Micro splitters i can say that the foam problem i would get with some of the Prochem products has been drastically reduced.
Will always ad a little de foamer just in case the custy has been using those awful foam spot cleaners!
Also i am led to believe that a MS needs very little dwell time compared to some other detergent based solutions.
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I still give a relative 'wetting' I do like the fibres to get enough moisture in them but when applying mpower or nemesis which I no longer use the application was much heavier, not really my cup of tea I much prefer to leave the carpet dry after cleaning even when I use my tm the carpet was damper than I would have normally left it irrelevant if you like the product or not.
Shaun
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No matter what pre spray you use it has to come into intact with the dirt to do its job, so it's dependant on the depth of the carpet pile a light mist might work on a flat pile but anything deeper requires a heavier application.
I've used micro splitters For 10yrs, I.ve tried practically every other prespray that has come onto the market...... I still use micro splitters 95% of the time on carpets and 100% of the time on upholstery.
I'm not stupid ( some may disagree) I'm like every other carpet cleaner who is looking to make the job easier, if anything worked better that MS then I would be using it, why would I not?
It's the same with cold water rinsing, I have a lot of hassle creating hot water I would love to get rid of my diesel burner and use cold water but I went 3 months cold water rinsing then bit the bullet and reinstalled the burner. Cleaning is easier with hot water ( but not better)