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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Darren O on December 01, 2012, 02:09:18 pm

Title: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 01, 2012, 02:09:18 pm
Does anyone no were i can get a engine filter for my promount 20 except Woodbridge nothing against Woodbridge but theres a problem with my meastro debit card and they wont exept it cheers.
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Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on December 01, 2012, 02:19:55 pm
Do you mean oil filter?

Shaun
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Post by: Darren O on December 01, 2012, 02:45:24 pm
Yes Shaun oil filter
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Post by: Dennis on December 01, 2012, 03:16:19 pm
http://www.uni-power.co.uk/
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Post by: Darren O on December 01, 2012, 03:28:39 pm
Cheers Dennis
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Post by: richie on December 02, 2012, 12:40:26 am
http://www.knfilters.co.uk/search/product.aspx?prod=PS-1002

Buy 2 and get free delivery :)
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Post by: Darren O on December 02, 2012, 12:57:00 am
Richie woodbridge wanted £27.25 for one incl vat and delivery
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Post by: richie on December 02, 2012, 01:37:33 am
for a OIL FILTER????
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Post by: richie on December 02, 2012, 01:47:37 am
Ask Woodbridge for the Kohler part number Darren.  Then email me with the part number or post it on here.  I will cross reference it and promise to get the filter at a fraction of the price.

Remember, most filters are made the same just have a different name and or colour.  I know original filters can be cross referenced with Fram. Wix, Fleetguard, Baldwin and many more.
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 02, 2012, 08:29:21 am
Richie i was quoted about £17+vat and delivery it came to £27.25 i wrote it down along with woodbridge account no and sorte code as i was going to do a bank transfer as they wouldnt except my debit card.
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Post by: robert meldrum on December 02, 2012, 10:02:28 am
Prospective carpet cleaning customers who " price shop " get SLAUGHTERED on here regularly, but when it comes to buying, the carpet cleaners so often PRICE SHOP  ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: richie on December 02, 2012, 11:05:31 am
I can see what your saying Robert but what would you rather pay £27.25 or £6 for a oil filter knowing both will do the same thing and knowing that every 100 hrs of work you need to change that filter.
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Post by: Mark@Able Stonecare on December 02, 2012, 11:31:12 am
Bought one yesterday £9.24 with the vat part number 83-284 that was from the local lawn mower shop.
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Post by: richie on December 03, 2012, 02:19:59 pm
Darren, after a lot of web searching a phone calls i think i have got somewhere regarding part numbers for the Oil Filter.  Ignore the earlier link i sent you for K&N filters.  Thats the old cross reference and wont match yours.

Bryco 01327 - 876166 (www.bryco.co.uk)
Genuine Kohler CH20 Oil Filter (Part number 1205001) £9.35 + VAT & carriage


In-Line Filters 01579 - 321351 (www.inlinefilters.co.uk)
Non Genuine (part number FBW-B1410) £9.10 + VAT & carriage
Non Genuine (Part number FFR-PH5660) £2.72 + VAT & carriage

After a long discussion with the guy at in-line filters he told me that both of those filters will fit the Kohler Command CH20 engine.


Also, the UK's largest car parts supplier have oil filters in stock.  Look at the 2 links below.  The first (BOSCH) is the longer version, the second (HENGST) is the shorter version

http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/501560010/p/home

http://www.eurocarparts.com/search/501745150/p/home

The good thing about Euro Car Parts is that they have over 120 stores nationwide so you could go to one of their stores or opt for online with FREE delivery.

Also the FRAM part number is PH8172

Hope this helps.
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Post by: Darren O on December 03, 2012, 03:00:30 pm
Cheers Richie
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Post by: Darren O on December 03, 2012, 03:16:24 pm
Richie the first one dosent take meastro either so i ordered 2 bosch ones through paypal.
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Post by: richie on December 03, 2012, 03:56:52 pm
You should have called me Darren, i would have ordered them then you could have sent me a cheque or paypal payment.
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Post by: Darren O on December 03, 2012, 04:10:50 pm
Richie will the bosch ones be ok
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Post by: richie on December 04, 2012, 12:16:21 am
I cant see why not.  I spoke to a guy at a Kohler dealer.  He gave me the fram cross reference number then i contacted Euro Car parts and they cross referenced the Fram part number to the Bosch part number. 

Most filters that have a different name are in fact made at the same factory and or to exact same specs.  Main difference with Genuine filters is the fact your paying for the name and fact it has the name on it.  Ive replaced oil and air filters on engines many times and never had a problem.  Look at it this way....you take your van in for a service at a local garage.......they replace the air, oil & fuel filters......the van runs as good as it would if you had paid 30% more for genuine filters.
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Post by: Chris R on December 04, 2012, 08:13:58 am
Just take your old one into any car parts supplier and they will sort you out. I pay £3 for mine. No problems in 6 years.
Same with spark plugs and inline fuel filters.

Air filters though are a different matter, only from Woodbridge


Regards
Chris
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Post by: terry barnes on December 04, 2012, 12:50:00 pm

why the difference with the air filters?
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Post by: richie on December 04, 2012, 01:07:02 pm
Chris, Woodbridge charge you £14.98 +VAT & carriage......

The link below is a cross reference part and it states in the listing it fits the CH20 Kohler engine and its £9.50

http://inlinefilters.co.uk/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=924_1031_1032&products_id=10842
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 04, 2012, 01:23:30 pm
Richie the truckmount cut out again today 3 times done a living room 2 bedrooms no problems as soon as i started cleaning the stairs using a 2jet stair tool it cut out after 5mins then done it another twice after that.
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Post by: richie on December 04, 2012, 02:06:14 pm
Darren.  When you have finished work today......remove the fitting from the end of the hose that goes to the truckmount and place in to a bucket.  Making sure the header tank is not full, Switch on the water pump and time it for 1 minute.  Then measure how many litres of water are in the bucket.  The demand pump on your machine should be giving approx 13 litres a minute.

I just spoke to Woodbridge and they said they have spoken to you and explained about the fuses. So, lets try and eliminate......remove the fuse that has the Brown or Black wire going to it.  Run the machine, if it still cuts out then repalce the fuse and remove the fuse that has a Orange wire going to it.  Again run the machine if it still cuts out replace the fuse and remove the fuse that has the green wire going to it.  Run the machine, if it still cuts out give me a call.  So, if when removing any one of the fuses it does NOT cut out we will know where the problem is......

Theres a few things it could be but the most obvious / likely one is the demand pump and the tech at Woodbridge agrees.
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 04, 2012, 04:34:10 pm
Will give that a try tomorow thanks.
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Post by: richie on December 04, 2012, 04:53:39 pm
ok, just call me if you need phone help mate.
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Post by: Darren O on December 05, 2012, 01:46:39 pm
I think ive found the problem done a job today after about a minute the truckmount cut out again so i took the 3 blue fuses out then started the truckmount it worked for a couple of minutes but then there was no water at the wand went back to the van checked the header tank and it was empty so i take it its the pump thats knackered.
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Post by: Darren O on December 05, 2012, 08:16:18 pm
Richie will this pump fit  http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Shurflo-12V-45psi-14-lpm-Sprayer-Pump-2088-343-135-/160757583415?pt=UK_BOI_FarmingEquipment_RL&hash=item256de60e37
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 05, 2012, 08:19:09 pm
Woodbridge are wanting £250+vat for a pump plus there out of stock.
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Post by: richie on December 05, 2012, 10:42:05 pm
Hi Darren sorry i didnt call back i was really busy then forgot.  Anyway, you say you removed all 3 blue fuses......did you do it one at a time and was it the fuses with the Orange, Black / Brown, Green wires going to them?  If it is the pump that is not giving enough flow then the price Woodbridge quoted is way over the top.  Yes the pump in the link you posted will be fine however i have found a alternative which the link is below.  It could possibly be the accumulator tank thats at fault.  So what i would do if i were you is disconnect the pump from the accumulator tank then measure how many litres the pump gives in one minute.  If it not enough then get a new pump

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=380443544469&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:GB:1123
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: Darren O on December 05, 2012, 10:56:11 pm
Richie when there was no water preasure at the wand i went back to the van and the pump was making a hell of a noise didnt sound good at all if its accumulator tank then how do i fix that cheers.
Title: Re: promount 20
Post by: richie on December 06, 2012, 09:38:34 am
The accumulator tank is a non serviceable part....however dont worry about that.  You dont actually need it. The pump can fit direct to the machine via the hose without the need of going through the accumulator tank.  If the pump had run out of water then they do make a different noise.
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Post by: richie on December 07, 2012, 10:16:11 am
Hi Chris, I have just spoken to Darren on the phone.  When Darren removed the fuses one at a time it kept cutting out till he got to the one with the Orange wire going to it.  So this indicates the Water Pressure.  I gave Woodbridge a quick call to confirm and the tech there agreed that its looking like the demand pump is not giving enough flow.