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Title: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 02:24:38 pm
Rug.

I Tried with shockwave, 45mg to 3 litres tap warm water.

Let it dwell 30mins +

Rinsed very high heat (magma on full with hot in tank)

Not much effect on grey traffic areas at all.

I've tried mixing some Cleansmart hd micro splitter into the shockwave solution and am just waiting for it to dwell now.

Any ideas if this dosnt work?


The traffic areas are still very dark grey (more black than white!)





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Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Fran84 on November 27, 2012, 02:28:43 pm
Joe,

You may well find it is just 'traffic lane grey'. If this is the case then you're not going to get rid of it. Do you have a dryer. Hit the rug with this and see how it looks as its drying.

Fran
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 02:48:04 pm
Thanks Fran.

I dont have a dryer but I have a few days before I have to give the rug back.


Is there a limit to how heavy I can go with an oxidiser? Would I have to rinse the oxidiser off if I used more than recommended dose?

Is there any reason why I shouldn't bleach the hell out of it?

The owner has said do what needs to be done. It looks way to poor to be down on the floor.



Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: *Hector* on November 27, 2012, 02:54:39 pm
just leaving these things to dwell does not necessarily do the job... You need to agitate the bejeezus out of the rug and solution as well.
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 02:59:46 pm
I gave it about 3-5 mins agitation with sebo duo.

Is this enough?



Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 03:16:46 pm
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/7gohzvndgcu5fmk/Photo%2027-11-2012%2015%2013%2024.jpg)

This is the rug After Being Cleaned!

http://db.tt/oRd2QGtx
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Fran84 on November 27, 2012, 04:08:48 pm
Do you have any other means of agitation. The duo obviously isn't enough.

Having seen it I would now say it's still dirty and not what I previously suggested.

Give it double strength and agitate the hell out of it as hector said.
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 04:14:38 pm
I just re-did it with shockwave and agitated the hell out of it. Still not much better, if at all.

Mpower spotter isnt touching it. Microsplitter spotter isnt touching it.

All I have is a duo unfortunatly.

Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Neil Jones on November 27, 2012, 04:26:23 pm
You not got a hand brush?
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 04:31:31 pm
I had assumed if the duo dosnt touch it, then a handbrush wont ?
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Fran84 on November 27, 2012, 04:38:32 pm
I have a small nylon brush from Wilkinsons, cost about £1.50. Brilliant wen you need to give it some elbow grease :D
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Jamie Pearson on November 27, 2012, 04:44:42 pm
I would add an oxidiser to help with this.

Here is a shagpile I did with an oxidiser boosted shampoo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6EcoNjFEI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6EcoNjFEI)
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 05:19:37 pm
I would add an oxidiser to help with this.

Here is a shagpile I did with an oxidiser boosted shampoo.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6EcoNjFEI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-j6EcoNjFEI)

U dont half walk fast.


Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Jamie Pearson on November 27, 2012, 05:25:48 pm
I am dancing!
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Jim_77 on November 27, 2012, 05:36:40 pm
Joe, sometimes on polyprop carpets you will have dust so badly embedded into the fibres it would not be removed by vacuuming, and if you have not loosened it your wand will not suck it out either.  When wetted, this dust/fluff goes dark and really shows.

A duo will not touch it; either a rotary with stiff polyprop brush or a big CRB machine is the tool for the job.  You'll see exactly what I mean, the first time you ever agitate a polyprop carpet with a proper agitation machine - it will be producing endless balls of black fluff that you didn't even know was there!!
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 27, 2012, 06:11:41 pm
Hot ultrapak renovate works best on oily polypropylene IMO.

Shaun
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: derek west on November 27, 2012, 06:15:58 pm
have you tested for soil transfer. simply get a white terry towel and spray some standard splitter on the terry and rub aggressively for a few seconds. is there a transfer on to the towel? repeat with detergent and then repeat with a water based solvent, if your cloth is still clean then your wasting your time with any crb or rotary, if the towel has soil transfer then you should of bought a bigger boat,  ;D

apologies if you have all ready done this and are getting a transfer.
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: lee_gundry on November 27, 2012, 06:27:41 pm
joe did you clean the rud with a floor wand???? i do a lot of rugs n i only use a rdm far far better results than a wand.

Lee G
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Paul Moss on November 27, 2012, 06:32:52 pm
Jamie cleaning the rug was good enough for me.... But how did you manage to do it and play the bag pipes at the same time.  ;D

Now i could not beat that ;D
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Robert Watson on November 27, 2012, 06:45:02 pm
I thought I was in Glen Coe for a minute.
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 27, 2012, 07:00:32 pm
Hot ultrapak renovate works best on oily polypropylene IMO.

Shaun
yes and then mash it with an rx20 hot knife and butter comes to mind  ;D
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 27, 2012, 09:38:43 pm
have you tested for soil transfer. simply get a white terry towel and spray some standard splitter on the terry and rub aggressively for a few seconds. is there a transfer on to the towel? repeat with detergent and then repeat with a water based solvent, if your cloth is still clean then your wasting your time with any crb or rotary, if the towel has soil transfer then you should of bought a bigger boat,  ;D

apologies if you have all ready done this and are getting a transfer.

Tried with clean towl and nothing. Same result with both mpower and special rx on rug.
I didnt rub aggressively but I rubbed.



Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Griffus on November 27, 2012, 11:08:27 pm
Are you sure it isn't a dark rug with sun bleached sides?  ;D

Seriously though, Powerburst or UR, nice and hot, plenty of agitation with a proper CRB and then rinse at about 300 psi. Worst case add a booster.

Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Helen on November 28, 2012, 07:50:22 am
Sometimes you just have to accept the fact that this is as good as it will get. Results of cleaning will depend on whether the item "lets" you clean it ;D
The rug looks old is it?
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Joe W Brown on November 28, 2012, 04:10:14 pm
I forget how old it is but it is quite old and never been cleaned to my knowledge.

Ive just had another look at it now dry and where the darker bits are the pile is very thin, compared to the lighter bits. Very very thin. The strands have little black bits (look sort of like blackhead spots) on top of each strand.

It still looks very dirty, but after two applications of warm shockwave and a shot of loads of different spotters, none with an obvious effect, I have given up on it.

I also put down some oxibright quite heavily and heavily diluted (45g to 1 litre of water), agitated, let dwell for half an hour in alcheline enviroment and rinsed. Did not help very much if at all.

Maybe soon I will have to buy a rotary. i still find it hard to believe that a rotary would have helped much with this though!
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 28, 2012, 06:58:19 pm
If you get nothing on the towel from what you have just used to clean with it may mean that the product/solution used isn't working.

Shaun
Title: Re: Polypropylene white long pile not cleaning
Post by: Jim_77 on November 28, 2012, 09:40:53 pm
Those black bits on the end of the strands... could either be fluff stuck to it, or a sign of way over-excessive agitation which has actually melted/scorched the fibres :o