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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Dani J on November 25, 2012, 05:19:12 pm
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hi guys where do buy this product ?
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I got some from RestorMate and used it on big commercial this weekend ............. very good product !!
The hype is well justified and it got me a great result on a job that often throws up mucky surprises ......... seems to have sped up the job from last visit, four months ago. The odour is very nice and was well recieved by the people that were in & out ........ looking forward to my next visit, to see the effect of the built in stain guard ;)
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I got some from RestorMate and used it on big commercial this weekend ............. very good product !!
The hype is well justified and it got me a great result on a job that often throws up mucky surprises ......... seems to have sped up the job from last visit, four months ago. The odour is very nice and was well recieved by the people that were in & out ........ looking forward to my next visit, to see the effect of the built in stain guard ;)
Thanks chris is Restor mate have a website?
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Not sure what the policy is on this forum, for advertising other suppliers !!!
Easily found at a normal .co.uk url though ;)
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Hey Chris.. would you like to share what method you used in terms of machine ,pad or bonnet and carpet type etc..
I have a sample of Dynam all it smells grea!
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Not sure what the policy is on this forum, for advertising other suppliers !!!
Easily found at a normal .co.uk url though ;)
Thanks chris
i will check it up.
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Pre-vacuumed, sprayed down warm Dynamall @1 to 15 and went over with pads dipped in solution of 1 to 20 (ish) ......... only needed trigger spray of 1:10 on about 6 areas but they came up on second pass !!
Tried microfibre, Bonnet, Solutions scrub pads but had most success with my trusty old Charly Pads ;D
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http://www.restormate.co.uk/
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We've done a large commercial this weekend, used dynamall, surround and procaps and thought procaps was the better of the three but there's not much in it. Dynamall smell is quite nice at first but gets on your chest after a bit, also doesn't work as well at the recommended dilution rate, a bit disappointing after all the hype.
Simon
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I've tried procaps, releasit, and surround, and haven't been disappointed with any of them - but I do like the brightening aspect of releasit hydrox (although it smells a bit bleachy)
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Pre-vacuumed, sprayed down warm Dynamall @1 to 15 and went over with pads dipped in solution of 1 to 20 (ish) ......... only needed trigger spray of 1:10 on about 6 areas but they came up on second pass !!
Tried microfibre, Bonnet, Solutions scrub pads but had most success with my trusty old Charly Pads ;D
Cheers Chris
Are we talking white pads? (dont know what a charly pad is sorry)i take it the carpet was the ones featured on your FB posts? carpet tiles? would dipping the pads on top of pre spraying increase the chances of wick back?
My experience with carpet tiles is to put as least amount of pre spray down...
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Are we talking white pads? (dont know what a charly pad is sorry)
If I get a job up your way or if you get one down here, I'll show you them.
But I'll have to find them in the garage first as they were chucked in there some time ago, a select few clearly know how to get those things to work but for the majority of us.... over rated and frigging expensive
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Neil they work quite well in the right situation. I only use mine about 6 times a year. They are quite expensive , but mine are around 7 years old now so they last a while.
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Russ, The Charly Pads are single sided with a construction that absorbs a lot of soil/moisture etc ............ They are very expensive for a pair now but I have always managed to get along with them. Luckily I have picked up a few sets from CC's that gave up on them so well supplied for the near future ;D
I am referring to the job I posted pictures of and pads are soaked in solution and wrung out before using ........ this ensures the pads do not dry out but does not put a load of moisture back down onto carpeting. I tried all the differnt pads & bonnets that I have and found the Charly/Dnamall partnership worked best for me on that job ;)
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Just to add that Chris also likes the od sip of Dynamall with red bull whilst doing the jog oops i mean job :D
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Paul, I may start adding Dynamall to my 1664, in the hope the 'stainguard' may prevent skiddies !!
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A client of mine definitely did not like the smell of Dynamall last week. Her actual words were "it smells like the perfume in a tarts boudoir" :o
Nigel
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I've had 1 customer who said the same Nigel, when it comes to fragrances you can never win.
Shaun
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A client of mine definitely did not like the smell of Dynamall last week. Her actual words were "it smells like the perfume in a tarts boudoir" :o
Nigel
................and exactly how does your client know what the inside smells like ;D
geoff
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................. Her actual words were "it smells like the perfume in a tarts boudoir" :o
Nigel
Makes me wonder what kind of clients you have, Nigel :o How would she know other than .............
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I've had 1 customer who said the same Nigel, when it comes to fragrances you can never win.
Shaun
Your not wrong there alot of my customers said Surround was too strong but love Dynamall
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Had feedback from the office manager at weekends job and he loved the smell ........... very pleased with results/feedback from bosses as well !!
Have to add the fact that the job went well and was 1.5 hours quicker over Saturday & Sunday ......... could be less soiling etc but have to put it down to Dynamall wrking on many stubborn marks, on first pass ;D
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Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.
John
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Just been back to look at a job we did with Dynamal to see what it looked like and while the carpet looked great apparently some people had complained about the lingering smell, saying it had given them a headache. Can't please em all :'(
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Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.
John
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i second that, i had my 1st order arrived today, and it will my last.
I haven't used it yet but the price put me right off this product, its 40 ltr, at a price of £43.26 including v.a.t and delivery charge. if you do a 1 litter per 10 littler water dilution, i worked out for a largish size house it will cost me all of that £43.26 for pre spraying all the carpets, so for me personally tooooooooo expensive.
So i am out ;D
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Works out expensive for HWE, 1 litre per 10 litres of tank solution.
Why do you have to vac afterwards?
Not bad if bonneting.
John
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i second that, i had my 1st order arrived today, and it will my last.
I haven't used it yet but the price put me right off this product, its 40 ltr, at a price of £43.26 including v.a.t and delivery charge. if you do a 1 litter per 10 littler water dilution, i worked out for a largish size house it will cost me all of that £43.26 for pre spraying all the carpets, so for me personally tooooooooo expensive.
So i am out ;D
Sorry i mean 4 ltr :)
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I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.
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I re-checked with office manager and the comments about smell, were from floor I did on Sunday, there was no mention from Saturday's floor :-X
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I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.
I wouldn't bother Russ its too expensive.
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Dani, I think it's right to say that while it can be used for HWE, its main use would be for encap via rotary/op, so it's on par with the competition.
Not a lot of money, when you take into account how much you can cover with a (US) gallon.
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I have a commercial job coming up and i will be doing a proper comparison with Dynam all and surround free.
I like the smell of the Dynam all, though i can see why some people may find it a little overpowering!
I have to say that the perfume added to the Dry Fusion products is by far stronger and can really get on your chest when spraying.
I wouldn't bother Russ its too expensive.
Whats too expensive?
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Dani, I think it's right to say that while it can be used for HWE, its main use would be for encap via rotary/op, so it's on par with the competition.
Not a lot of money, when you take into account how much you can cover with a (US) gallon.
on the bottle it say 1: 10 meaning for every 1 littler of this solution you add 10 littler of water, and i have a 10 litter spray which i use for pre spray the carpet which will covers about 2 large room to spray, so if you think about it 4 litter of this solution will only cover in average one large house for carpet cleaning with HW Extraction, which is around £43.00 so wouldn't you say that is expensive ?
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Dani, either you or I have misunderstood the directions.
From the website:
Hot Water Extraction: Mix at 1-10 parts with water in truck mount / portable extractors for carpet or upholstery cleaning.
That is NOT prespray, but added to the rinse tank. I'm pretty sure that spraying an encap product only to rinse it out 5 minutes later would defeat the object, better to add it at rinse stage so it can go on working after you've left.
But as I said earlier, you'd be better off using it in this way:
Rotary Bonnet Encap Method: Mix 1-10 of warm water, reduce to 1-15 for regular maintenance work. Apply with sprayer. Scrub the carpet thoroughly making overlapping passes with a rotary bonnet (use appropriate pads for job) or use cylindrical brush machine. Rinsing is not required, simply vacuum at the next scheduled vacuuming interval.
1:10 means you get 11 litres of mix (1 litre water:10 litres solution). To use 11 litres in 2 rooms sounds very high to me (unless you mean 2 large commercial rooms??).
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Dani, either you or I have misunderstood the directions.
From the website:
Hot Water Extraction: Mix at 1-10 parts with water in truck mount / portable extractors for carpet or upholstery cleaning.
That is NOT prespray, but added to the rinse tank. I'm pretty sure that spraying an encap product only to rinse it out 5 minutes later would defeat the object, better to add it at rinse stage so it can go on working after you've left.
But as I said earlier, you'd be better off using it in this way:
Rotary Bonnet Encap Method: Mix 1-10 of warm water, reduce to 1-15 for regular maintenance work. Apply with sprayer. Scrub the carpet thoroughly making overlapping passes with a rotary bonnet (use appropriate pads for job) or use cylindrical brush machine. Rinsing is not required, simply vacuum at the next scheduled vacuuming interval.
1:10 means you get 11 litres of mix (1 litre water:10 litres solution). To use 11 litres in 2 rooms sounds very high to me (unless you mean 2 large commercial rooms??).
Sorry Ash, I don’t use rotary to clean carpets I just use, pre spray, agitate with brush and then HW extraction, It still confusing because I didn’t buy this product to use as a rinse aid, in the tank of water.
I bought as for pre spray, so in this case its not good for HW extraction then, the point is, for mixing 1: 10 for 4 litter and for £43.00 in my book is expensive.
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Dani
If you use it how it is intended to be used its not expensive.
Russ
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Dani
If you use it how it is intended to be used its not expensive.
Russ
Hi Russ
Well I used it for the 1st time today.
Basically I added 1 littler in to my Ninja carpet cleaning machine tank which is about 40 litter tank, and once I was using the machine I noticed that this product is foaming a lot when it was coming out of the wand, I carried on cleaning anyway and I kept adding just pure water to the tank as I was cleaning but the it was still foaming when it was coming from the wand.
I noticed then I had to empty the waist tank more often because of the foaming from this product.
So I am still confused as to why they say 1:10 ratio for cleaning but I cleaned a 2 bedroom house with just 1Ltr of this solution????
I must add that I still used pre spray and agitation with my own microsplitter which I use usually any way.
The result was good and smell nice too. :)
The only issue is that it foams a lot, so maybe I am doing something wrong?
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A 1:10 pre spray mix is going to work out expensive.
Especially when you consider other pre sprays.
I use M Power @ 1:100.
HD about 1:40.
John
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Guys Dynam all is an encap product despite what is written on the instructions about using it in a extractor.
it is supposed to foam up that's the whole point!
Dani dont put it in your extractor unless you like to waste product and create lots of foam!
Take some advise, only fill your rinse water tank up with fresh clean water and maybe a little acidic rinse, if you are using the correct pre spray like a micro splitter then you would never need to put a detergent in the rinse water!
To be fair JandS, your using MPower and HD for bonneting which is a totally different method of cleaning compared to encapsulation.
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Guys Dynam all is an encap product despite what is written on the instructions about using it in a extractor.
it is supposed to foam up that's the whole point!
Dani dont put it in your extractor unless you like to waste product and create lots of foam!
Take some advise, only fill your rinse water tank up with fresh clean water and maybe a little acidic rinse, if you are using the correct pre spray like a micro splitter then you would never need to put a detergent in the rinse water!
To be fair JandS, your using MPower and HD for bonneting which is a totally different method of cleaning compared to encapsulation.
Yes Russ I do use normal tap water for rinsing all the time any way, and the way I am using my microsplitter is the right way, so is this a pre spray or not?
on the bottle it say you can dilute it in the tank, so now you say not to do that ?
Any way i am not buying it any more.
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Its a pre spray designed to be used with a rotary machine and a pad/bonnet.
1 You spray a mix of 1:15 (1 part solution to 15 parts water) lightly over the carpet
2 Rotary and pad over the carpet
3 Allow to dry
4 Post vacuum the crystallised soils
All the info including videos are on the website
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Dani if you want an encapsulating extraction product then use Chemspec Liquid High Heat or Prochems Natural Carpet Cleaner (others are available)
This will give you better dilution rates for HWE.
As stated Dynamall is intended for encapsulation using a pad/brush.
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Dani if you want an encapsulating extraction product then use Chemspec Liquid High Heat or Prochems Natural Carpet Cleaner (others are available)
This will give you better dilution rates for HWE.
As stated Dynamall is intended for encapsulation using a pad/brush.
Yes Thank you for advice and yes i will do that :)
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Did a ladies dressing room yesterday fake tan stains all over Dynamall removed all but one heavy stain but dye gone got that one