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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: keyser soze on November 24, 2012, 02:45:07 pm
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
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your no longer A COWBOY your a proper window cleaner ;D
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still haven't got mine :-[
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Nice one!
We got ours a couple of months ago and we're both still chuffed to bits. :D
Duncan
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The three of us got ours today too
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nice 1 guys .. guess i.ll have to hang up my stetson now.
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How long from completing the course / work place assessment did you have to wait chaps?
Still waiting for mine thata all ;D
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i finished my course at the end of july
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i finished my course at the end of july
Cheers think i'll have a bit longer to wait then ...
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City and guilds take ages do do their paperwork
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
clearly prouder than you xxx :)
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
clearly prouder than you xxx :)
i would say a lot sadder than me xxx:)
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i would say a lot sadder than me xxx:)
Why? Because we want to demonstrate we have a professional approach to what we do for our living?
Not sure why you've felt the need to put us down tbh mate?! :(
Duncan
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iam not putting you down mate!! i just can not see the point of it all, i have over 400 customers do i think having a city and guilds in window cleaning will help my business??? NO not one jot. i dont think many on here would have dreamed of taking a course if they were not provided free of charge by impact 43. to me they are a waste of tax payers money, but not to impact 43 who seem to be making a pretty penny out of it all. and from what they tell us on here about H&S iam surprized that we ever get out of the driveway in the morning without filling in a risk assesment. scaremainering is the word i would use. scaremainering to make a profit. this is a tactic also used by the window cleaning arm of the business next door to them, there canvasser has told some of my customers horry stories used to get a £8 job
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iam not putting you down mate!! i just can not see the point of it all, i have over 400 customers do i think having a city and guilds in window cleaning will help my business??? NO not one jot. i dont think many on here would have dreamed of taking a course if they were not provided free of charge by impact 43. to me they are a waste of tax payers money, but not to impact 43 who seem to be making a pretty penny out of it all. and from what they tell us on here about H&S iam surprized that we ever get out of the driveway in the morning without filling in a risk assesment. scaremainering is the word i would use. scaremainering to make a profit. this is a tactic also used by the window cleaning arm of the business next door to them, there canvasser has told some of my customers horry stories used to get a £8 job
yawn yawn yawn here we go again
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iam not putting you down mate!! i just can not see the point of it all, i have over 400 customers do i think having a city and guilds in window cleaning will help my business??? NO not one jot. i dont think many on here would have dreamed of taking a course if they were not provided free of charge by impact 43. to me they are a waste of tax payers money, but not to impact 43 who seem to be making a pretty penny out of it all. and from what they tell us on here about H&S iam surprized that we ever get out of the driveway in the morning without filling in a risk assesment. scaremainering is the word i would use. scaremainering to make a profit. this is a tactic also used by the window cleaning arm of the business next door to them, there canvasser has told some of my customers horry stories used to get a £8 job
yawn yawn yawn here we go again
;D ;D
Is there another record we can put on?
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iam sorry because my thoughts are not the same as yours you find them boring. so the brain washing has been a sucsess. enjoy putting your certificate in a frame and putting it on your garage wall that is the best place for it as its not worth the paper its printed on. iam sure when you tell your customers you have a city and guilds in window cleaning they wont shut the door and p themselves laughing
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iam sorry because my thoughts are not the same as yours you find them boring. so the brain washing has been a sucsess. enjoy putting your certificate in a frame and putting it on your garage wall that is the best place for it as its not worth the paper its printed on. iam sure when you tell your customers you have a city and guilds in window cleaning they wont shut the door and p themselves laughing
I haven't got a certificate mate and it doesn't bother me either way - if I'm absolutely honest I couldn't give a flying f*ck - unless it becomes compulsory
It's just this topic of impact/window washer bashing needs a rest for a while :)
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iam sorry because my thoughts are not the same as yours you find them boring. so the brain washing has been a sucsess. enjoy putting your certificate in a frame and putting it on your garage wall that is the best place for it as its not worth the paper its printed on. iam sure when you tell your customers you have a city and guilds in window cleaning they wont shut the door and p themselves laughing
why dont you start your own thread about what you need to say and keep it there,instead of jumping in on every ones elses simple.
then we got the option if we dont want to add to it or read it.simple really
and i have'nt dont a course yet before you say
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Iam sorry i thought this was a forum not a private love in ::) ::)
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Iam sorry i thought this was a forum not a private love in ::) ::)
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
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in fact they should say its a window cleaning safety awareness course
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
tbh mcdonalds is a far more skilled job than window cleaning.
i very much doubt that insurance companies would insist in nvq's in window cleaning but if you tell them they might wet themselves with laughter.
tell your mates you have passed your nvq's in window cleaning,that would have the pub laughing forever.
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iam not putting you down mate!! i just can not see the point of it all, i have over 400 customers do i think having a city and guilds in window cleaning will help my business??? NO not one jot. i dont think many on here would have dreamed of taking a course if they were not provided free of charge by impact 43. to me they are a waste of tax payers money, but not to impact 43 who seem to be making a pretty penny out of it all. and from what they tell us on here about H&S iam surprized that we ever get out of the driveway in the morning without filling in a risk assesment. scaremainering is the word i would use. scaremainering to make a profit. this is a tactic also used by the window cleaning arm of the business next door to them, there canvasser has told some of my customers horry stories used to get a £8 job
yawn yawn yawn here we go again
doubt you would think that if some company was poaching all your work would you?
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from what i see poaching is part and parcel of the trade. i can only guess who you are talking about ....have you tried poaching their work...
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
tbh mcdonalds is a far more skilled job than window cleaning.
i very much doubt that insurance companies would insist in nvq's in window cleaning but if you tell them they might wet themselves with laughter.
tell your mates you have passed your nvq's in window cleaning,that would have the pub laughing forever.
cooking is a different skill set altogether and in macdonalds everything is timed bad example there docwindows. ( I have an nvq in cooking too :)
Do you really care more about your mates laughing at you than looking better in your progression of business ( I did when I was younger) my mates don't pay for my life i worked that out quickly that my business does. ( I would laugh back at them if they laughted now but I guess it depends on the company you keep, mine don't laugh they are happy for me.
Nobody is forcing you to go on the course. It is a choice.
Having an nvq looks a whole lot better to customers than not having one, it shows them you take your job/business that little more serious than the average window cleaner.
Moreover you could learn something you didn't know and could implement into your business, could be for safety, a time saver, a money saver/maker. ( the money maker part is not part of the course, better make that clear before someone jumps on it)
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City and guilds for wot
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
I would be very worried if i learnt something about window cleaning.
Anyone with half of sense learns in 10 seconds.
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
tbh mcdonalds is a far more skilled job than window cleaning.
i very much doubt that insurance companies would insist in nvq's in window cleaning but if you tell them they might wet themselves with laughter.
tell your mates you have passed your nvq's in window cleaning,that would have the pub laughing forever.
cooking is a different skill set altogether and in macdonalds everything is timed bad example there docwindows. ( I have an nvq in cooking too :)
Do you really care more about your mates laughing at you than looking better in your progression of business ( I did when I was younger) my mates don't pay for my life i worked that out quickly that my business does. ( I would laugh back at them if they laughted now but I guess it depends on the company you keep, mine don't laugh they are happy for me.
Nobody is forcing you to go on the course. It is a choice.
Having an nvq looks a whole lot better to customers than not having one, it shows them you take your job/business that little more serious than the average window cleaner.
Moreover you could learn something you didn't know and could implement into your business, could be for safety, a time saver, a money saver/maker.
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City and guilds for wot
window smudging... i know its not for everyone but i chose to do it ...why not it cost nothing but time.. i didn't want to upset the people who thinks its rubbish .....as i said ,'' everyone to their own ''
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
tbh mcdonalds is a far more skilled job than window cleaning.
i very much doubt that insurance companies would insist in nvq's in window cleaning but if you tell them they might wet themselves with laughter.
tell your mates you have passed your nvq's in window cleaning,that would have the pub laughing forever.
Are you a secret carpet beater
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
city and guilds in window cleaning lol you must be so proud!!
lol everyone to their own i guess. its all about safety awareness generally . some good stuff and some over the top tbh . but it does show you are taking your job seriously . you need a nvq to work in macdonalds these days...........(my other job ;)) so doing one in wc seems the natural step..... one day i wouldnt be surprised if ins companies insist on you doing training courses. and it didnt cost so why not and im a cowboy
tbh mcdonalds is a far more skilled job than window cleaning.
i very much doubt that insurance companies would insist in nvq's in window cleaning but if you tell them they might wet themselves with laughter.
tell your mates you have passed your nvq's in window cleaning,that would have the pub laughing forever.
Are you a secret carpet beater
ahahahahahahahaha now that's funny :)
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Personally, I would be embarrassed to publicly promote a C&G in WC'ing. Also, if I were to try & use it as a tool of enhancement, I would expect the recipient to feel slightly insulted!
If you feel you need one, fine, but I don't! ;)
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That's a fair answer winpro
That's your feeling not sure why they would be insulted though but each to their own
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All my customers laugh at me for having an NVQ, I nearly got barred from cleaning a local hospital when they found out.
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All my customers laugh at me for having an NVQ, I nearly got barred from cleaning a local hospital when they found out.
:)
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Amazing how much window cleaning has changed over the years, just think how many lives have been saved due to better H&S ! Any course that promotes safer working, and promotes a more professional image gets my vote.
I worked on ladders for many years due to ignorance and being pig headed ( came off twice too ) yes it is more expensive investing in all the gear, and yes some people might scoff at qualifications for window cleaning but how highly do you view your life ?
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Amazing how much window cleaning has changed over the years, just think how many lives have been saved due to better H&S ! Any course that promotes safer working, and promotes a more professional image gets my vote.
I worked on ladders for many years due to ignorance and being pig headed ( came off twice too ) yes it is more expensive investing in all the gear, and yes some people might scoff at qualifications for window cleaning but how highly do you view your life ?
So, are you telling us that you really didn't have the intelligence to realise the risks for all those ladder using years?
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Amazing how much window cleaning has changed over the years, just think how many lives have been saved due to better H&S ! Any course that promotes safer working, and promotes a more professional image gets my vote.
I worked on ladders for many years due to ignorance and being pig headed ( came off twice too ) yes it is more expensive investing in all the gear, and yes some people might scoff at qualifications for window cleaning but how highly do you view your life ?
So, are you telling us that you really didn't have the intelligence to realise the risks for all those ladder using years?
I thought I was bullet proof and plodded on regardless :-[
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Amazing how much window cleaning has changed over the years, just think how many lives have been saved due to better H&S ! Any course that promotes safer working, and promotes a more professional image gets my vote.
I worked on ladders for many years due to ignorance and being pig headed ( came off twice too ) yes it is more expensive investing in all the gear, and yes some people might scoff at qualifications for window cleaning but how highly do you view your life ?
So, are you telling us that you really didn't have the intelligence to realise the risks for all those ladder using years?
I thought I was bullet proof and plodded on regardless :-[
So a qualification would have made no difference anyway then?
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying
Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?
And apart from that, it's true! ;D
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying
Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?
And apart from that, it's true! ;D
lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying
Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?
And apart from that, it's true! ;D
lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you
Well, the"facts" were on here, in black & white very recently Ian. ;D Thanks for the advice though. ;)
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
winpro you really need to be careful what you say online because your liable for it mate, #justsaying
Point to the part where "I" mentioned any individual or company by name?
And apart from that, it's true! ;D
lol being true in your mind does not make it fact, I was mearly giving some friendly advice to help you
Well, the"facts" were on here, in black & white very recently Ian. ;D Thanks for the advice though. ;)
your welcome :)
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I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!
"over qualified " were the words used !!
Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .
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I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!
"over qualified " were the words used !!
Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .
Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.
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you can do the course but you will have to pay .. its about 1200 quid
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I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!
"over qualified " were the words used !!
Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .
Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.
if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ? You clearly have an issue with it, by the way just to tip you ever near to the edge window cleaning is a trade as is a decorating as is a cooking as is a carpentry as is a plumbing
Why so negative on the worthless job you have to do ?
Do you have another worthless nvq in something else is this the reason for this chip on your shoulder ?
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NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.
Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,
You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?
You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,
NVQ do me a favour and i'm out ;)
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NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.
Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,
You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?
You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,
NVQ do me a favour and i'm out ;)
thats your choice and that fine thankfully not everyone thinks the same as you. Do you not have any Certs at all. ? I know for down of outer work I would not have for it without it states clearly they want to know your serious and trained so to me it has helped. Read Dave Morris post it sums it up very well
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unbelievable!!
A guy post to say he just received his certificate as he's clearly feeling please with himself for the effort he's made in getting it. A few of us take time out to congratulate him and have a little chest thump ourselves and all this NVQ hate! WTF?
It's clear some of you have issues with Impact43 and staff... but seriously guys?! Do you never show off new gear or talk about your setups? YOU don't think a qualification in window cleaning is worthwhile.. we get it... but lay off ffs... it's gotten very VERY OLD!!!
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It's all jealousy :)
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I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!
"over qualified " were the words used !!
Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .
Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.
if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ?
Well you see sir I was a qualified pipe welder / pipe fabricator in my last trade was in the trade since I was 16 I'm now 32 , last July I suffered a cardiac arrest ( same thing as that footballer ) I now have an ICD implanted in my chest Incase it happens again and due to the nature of the trade with electrical equipment electro magnetic interference etc it is deemed too high a risk for me to take to return to my former trade .
So even though I have all those pieces of paper they are useless to me .
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I couldn't even get on the damn course !!!
"over qualified " were the words used !!
Just because I have 7 nvq level 2 and 2 level 3 in another trade I'm deemed to over qualified to do a course on how to clean damn windows .
Because you have proved you have a brain you dont need to do a nvq in a worthless job.window cleaning is definately not a trade.
if your so clever and us not so please tell me why your a window cleaner ?
Well you see sir I was a qualified pipe welder / pipe fabricator in my last trade was in the trade since I was 16 I'm now 32 , last July I suffered a cardiac arrest ( same thing as that footballer ) I now have an ICD implanted in my chest Incase it happens again and due to the nature of the trade with electrical equipment electro magnetic interference etc it is deemed too high a risk for me to take to return to my former trade .
So even though I have all those pieces of paper they are useless to me .
gav that was not aimed at you mate , it was doc he's got a chip in his shoulder and when asked cant answer
Sorry to here you were unwell that must be very scary :(
impact do other courses on wfp and ladders that maybe of interest ionic sorry bwca also do courses they are low fee paid for one though but you can get certification for them just not city & guilds
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It's all jealousy :)
You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!! ;D
Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! ;) Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible! ;D
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It's all jealousy :)
You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!! ;D
Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! ;) Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible! ;D
lol that i am Mr Pro , I spend enough quality time with my wife & boys I'm sat with them right now as it goes having a glass of red :) you love my grammar it gives you more of a brain workout, I am also dyslexic which does not help, if you ever cannot understand what I am writing please let me know and I will try to explain better ;D
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Image can mean a lot. If you're mostly domestic, some of your custies, no matter what boots you wear who who's kit you use, see you like this. Some don't. But not many domestic custies give a toss about if you gave a degree in window wiping. I understand both sides, but you can't make a silk purse out of a pigs ear lads. When you want to go mostly commercial then it may be a good thing as part of your "shiney things" and whistles and bells to impress a commercial custy. But then again, commercial will drop you for a 5 quid undercut.
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1353868275_aaaaaaaaaaaaa.jpg)
This is how some see us. I don't give a toss, as long as they pay. I lost any chips on my shoulders at about the 10 year point. Now I see free time and bank account healthy.
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It's all jealousy :)
You are seriously deluded Mr. Wicks!! ;D
Spend more time with your family or take up a hobby is my advice to you! ;) Brush up on your grammar too, it's terrible! ;D
Personal attacks on a window cleaning forum? /golfclap
Duncan
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i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
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i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years, your remarks just gobo show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guess you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Nvq 1,2 and 3 Hard Landscaping
Nvq 1,2 in printing.plus a few other qualifications
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Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's
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Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's
i like debate I have no chip , I do get a little passionate sometimes I agree :)
I do not know what your real beef is with the nvq that why I asked you
Is it you have an nvq in something else and this makes a mockery of it
Is it because mick Willis took some of your work
Is it you can't get finding
That's what I was asking I don't have a problem with you, I would openly say it if i did I don't know you fella, so what is your problem with it
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
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Ian you want me to re-read Daves post, i just have now i think you should read mine again, and it is ok all you nvq qualified window cleaners you are now as professional as everybody else in the world, haha, sorry if you think this is a wind up , im a a fully fledged window cleaning nvq hater
you ask if i have certs, well not for window cleaning im afraid but guess what it hasnt stopped me from building a successful and safe business.
does cycling proficiency count?
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Why do i have a chip on my shoulder?
You seem to have a chip on your shoulder with anyone that disagrees with you about Nvq's
i like debate I have no chip , I do get a little passionate sometimes I agree :)
I do not know what your real beef is with the nvq that why I asked you
Is it you have an nvq in something else and this makes a mockery of it.yes
Is it because mick Willis took some of your work Who is he?
Is it you can't get finding i wouldnt want funding and thats the truth
That's what I was asking I don't have a problem with you, I would openly say it if i did I don't know you fella, so what is your problem with it
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2 ???
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
Well?
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can we all have a group hug please i need to feel some love here ;D ;D ;D
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
Well?
Google it m8! ;)
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2 ???
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?
yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it? are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2 ???
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?
yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it? are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?
No i choose window cleaning as a stop gap!
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2 ???
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?
yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it? are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?
I reckon it's 'cos he (same as most) realises that they worthless! For Only the ones running the racket do they have any worth & that is in a financial return! ;)
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It does, because by pointing out all the latest H&S regs it makes people think about their working practices.
A lot of the latest regs are now law, but many are still ignoring them, and putting themselves and other in danger!
Think what you like about Andrew Willis, and his company, but he is helping save lives, and he has gained free funding.
Do you not think anyone who is promoting H&S, and promoting a more professional image of window cleaning deserves
credit ? Yes he is getting paid, so what he has to make a living like any business.
Could you point out which of these "latest regs" are now law?
I have no problem with H&S, after all, it just amounts to common sense. I do have a problem though when someone, or some company start scaremainering & actually participating in a campaign of "miss-information" for financial gain! This is the stage when the industry gets ruined!
Well?
Come on were waiting for your answer ;D
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
3 years of hard graft from me to get NVQ's in Landscape and now i can do 3 days form filling for Nvq level 1+2 ???
Can i charge more because i have NVQ's?
yes or no depends how you price and present yourself I guess but to do window cleaning your Dont need nvqs in hard landscaping nor printing that was sort of a waste of time wasn't it? are you annoyed that you can't do that anymore and are stuck cleaning windows like us delinquents ?
No i choose window cleaning as a stop gap!
really, how longs the stop gap ? And what you doing when you start back ?
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
Bristol Last Spring, The coarse was compleated in 3 days not the planned 4 and no follow up on site visit from an assesor, I really dont think I learnt anything my common sence didnt already know and feel no more qualified/trained now than I did before the coarse.
who did the wfp training can you remember ? I know the training has changed the good thing is if you didn't learn anything your working safely and within the law which is excellent and you can now prove it :)
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
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Am I the only one that has done the NVQ course and was not impressed with it?
I am a mainly domestic window cleaner and think it was a waste of my time and taxpayers money. Too much of the course was spent filling in forms and ticking boxes that had nothing to do with H&S or window cleaning but a lot to do with funding.
when and where did you do it Ucky ?
Sadly paper work is part of an nvq no way round that
Bristol Last Spring, The coarse was compleated in 3 days not the planned 4 and no follow up on site visit from an assesor, I really dont think I learnt anything my common sence didnt already know and feel no more qualified/trained now than I did before the coarse.
who did the wfp training can you remember ? I know the training has changed the good thing is if you didn't learn anything your working safely and within the law which is excellent and you can now prove it :)
lets hope the right information regarding health and safety as i hear someone stated some laws was none existent on the forum!
Also i see winpro has asked you a questions you seem to be ducking a question regarding h+s laws!
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
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Hi Ian
sorry had to get that one in first lol, knew it was coming doh
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
not at all dave, but thing move forward things get added
Example things we did 10 years ago are different from today it does t mean the training was bad last spring at all
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction
To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction
To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction
To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?
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nice chatting to you ian
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nice chatting to you ian
i guess that does not mean me, even though I enjoyed getting to know a little more about your reasons doc I swear we had this convo a good while back
Have a good evening anyways
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So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?
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So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?
i would look stupid if I cordoned myself in my office Marketting if your trying to rake up last weekend that record have been changed ;)
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Hmm surprised your workers don't then with your impeccable safety qualifications. Don't they teach you anything at the NVQ?
So, who's going to be responsible if one of your workers drop their pole on someones head?
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Hmm surprised your workers don't then with your impeccable safety qualifications. Don't they teach you anything at the NVQ?
So, who's going to be responsible if one of your workers drop their pole on someones head?
worry not about my business, look after your own
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What a stupid answer - you work alongside Willis and neither of you can talk about the subject he started. You've both cocked up big time with that one haven't you Ian?
Do they teach this on the course or will they teach this in the future? I can't ask your mate 'cos conveniently he's deleted his account and run for cover.
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What a stupid answer - you work alongside Willis and neither of you can talk about the subject he started. You've both cocked up big time with that one haven't you Ian?
Do they teach this on the course or will they teach this in the future?
if you would like to know about the impact43 course please call them.
I have not cocked up in anyway you know very little about me and rather than me being rude to you, whichnindint want to be I would advise you speak to them rather than trying to insult me. Cheers
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I'm not insulting you I'm asking you questions. I'm sorry you can't understand plain English.
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You work alongside them you love preaching the NVQ message and yet won't discuss it. Your ramblings and superior attitude kind of puts me off the course to be honest. I was picked as an assessor for NVQ's in the print trade and saw straight through it, it was 90% waffle dressed up as a qualification. The window cleaning version seems even worse.
Perhaps you could point out the insults I've hurled at you and report them to a moderator if you feel victimised. I'm sure you won't find any.
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
hmmm does that mean people wasted there time doing the course as the training was sub standard?
not at all Dave is pushing your buttons for reaction
To answer your question, you already answered it for winpro I didn't need to answer
what your ducking the question?
He is good that that ;)
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So do you cordon off the area you are working in then Ian?
i would look stupid if I cordoned myself in my office Marketting if your trying to rake up last weekend that record have been changed ;)
It wasnt changed Ian, The record player owner took the player away as Mr Willis pays the record owner a fee to have exclusive songs played, must be great fun listening to the same old song
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
Like ;)
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
Like ;)
which part of docs insult did you like James that your in a Deadend job or your unskilled ? you guys kill me,
Doc FYI I'm nowhere near old, and thanks for being honest ;)
Etting if you insulted me I would tell you ive been on here long enough as you know i can give it and take it, there's a difference when things get personal, and before you went down this route i wanted to say speak with impact43 to get the advice your seeking, I don't want you put of by me. get the facts first hand, I don't set the standards on the course. I also don't know who you are as your hiding behind a name for some unknown reason.
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
window cleaning is a dead end job tell that to the guys who run decent size businesses
window cleaning.
i personally couldnt careless about nvq in window cleaning...but pathetic little nasty
bleeders like yourself who love nothing better than slagging off people who are only trying
to make a decent living p me off
really must kill you that you are in this dead end industry...in your case dead end doesnt
really apply though more like dead head :)
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
window cleaning is a dead end job tell that to the guys who run decent size businesses
window cleaning.
i personally couldnt careless about nvq in window cleaning...but pathetic little nasty
bleeders like yourself who love nothing better than slagging off people who are only trying
to make a decent living p me off
really must kill you that you are in this dead end industry...in your case dead end doesnt
really apply though more like dead head :)
Ho ho ho Gary leave them Christmas crackers alone!
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
window cleaning is a dead end job tell that to the guys who run decent size businesses
window cleaning.
i personally couldnt careless about nvq in window cleaning...but pathetic little nasty
bleeders like yourself who love nothing better than slagging off people who are only trying
to make a decent living p me off
really must kill you that you are in this dead end industry...in your case dead end doesnt
really apply though more like dead head :)
im slagging noboddy off,thats just my opinion,if you dont agree then thats ok as im not bothered.
You might see it as a trade etc i don't,im glad you feel important as a window cleaner.
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
window cleaning is a dead end job tell that to the guys who run decent size businesses
window cleaning.
i personally couldnt careless about nvq in window cleaning...but pathetic little nasty
bleeders like yourself who love nothing better than slagging off people who are only trying
to make a decent living p me off
really must kill you that you are in this dead end industry...in your case dead end doesnt
really apply though more like dead head :)
im slagging noboddy off,thats just my opinion,if you dont agree then thats ok as im not bothered.
You might see it as a trade etc i don't,im glad you feel important as a window cleaner.
I am pretty sure due to the fact that window cleaning now has a NVQ it is now a trade ;D :o
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NVQ in Window cleaning again, come on guys, lets leave it alone, if we ignore the fact that its happening, it might go away and we will not all be a laughing stock
I have been out on the boat today, so i have missed this delightful thread ;D It is good to see people with sense and not just accepting this is the way it should be
i was informed you have a interest in these nvq's as you are getting something out them,i,e a wage? not sure if thats true but heard a rumour!
if true i can see why you think a nvq in window cleaning is so important,lol pmsl.
i can just imagine going canvassing and telling everyone you have nvq's in window cleaning,by the time you get to the 5th house the people in white coats will come and take you away!
come on iv'e never laughed so much in all my life,nvq in window cleaning,lol
No wonder the country is in such a mess,all the homeless and unemployed yet the government are prepared to throw money at such a worthless course!
When your window cleaning with a pole the brush cleans the window,doh
if your using a ladder you have to climb it,scratching my head.
Don't drop your pole at full height its dangerous.
Well done you have a nvq! wow wee ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
i will make One thing clear to you, I do not get paid to promote nvqs
I have had mine over 2 years if you look back you will see this, you wasn't informed you read it the other day when you was slagging off impact with james and whats his face your remarks just go to show why people really should go on and get one, if you employ which I am only guessing you don't from your comments would land you in serious hot water with that attitude, you my friend can laugh and wet yourself when laughing all you like :o as I said prior you have a chip on your shoulder what nvq do you have ?
Due to the fact that Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks has mentioned me, i thought it only polite to reply
Ian ' wishywashy' Wicks is of course full of the virtues of this course, For people who do not know, he has a ' vested interest " as he works for the people who provide the course, just pointing this out as new members might not realise this, it might be a idea for suppliers to have to put that in the profile, just so we know that they have a vested interest in this and are bias
In reply to me ' slagging off ' impact, that was far from the truth, I was just pointing out the discrepancies, i guess if i do not tow the line, thats slagging them off ?
i wasnt slagging them off im just saying its a waste of tax payers money for a worthless course in a dead end unskilled job!
i presume ian you are probably a old man and thats why you feel the course is so important.But for me a nvq in window cleaning is not something i would brag about.
window cleaning is a dead end job tell that to the guys who run decent size businesses
window cleaning.
i personally couldnt careless about nvq in window cleaning...but pathetic little nasty
bleeders like yourself who love nothing better than slagging off people who are only trying
to make a decent living p me off
really must kill you that you are in this dead end industry...in your case dead end doesnt
really apply though more like dead head :)
im slagging noboddy off,thats just my opinion,if you dont agree then thats ok as im not bothered.
You might see it as a trade etc i don't,im glad you feel important as a window cleaner.
I am pretty sure due to the fact that window cleaning now has a NVQ it is now a trade ;D :o
My mum always told me to get a trade behind me and qualifications,looks like i better become a qualified window cleaner else my mum will be mad ;D
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did i mention trade or personally feeling important ???
you just keep confirming my dead head opinion
go away, you are as much use as a flip flop in the snow
dont worry i wont be back on this post again...my time is too
precious to be wasted on you ;)
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did i mention trade or personally feeling important ???
you just keep confirming my dead head opinion
go away, you are as much use as a flip flop in the snow
dont worry i wont be back on this post again...my time is too
precious to be wasted on you ;)
ok precious run along :-*
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
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I wonder if my latest stalker "emergency Gary" will come on now I've posted. Turns out he's mentioned me on a few posts just lately :D
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Trade
Noun: The action of buying and selling goods and services.
Not sure if there was a lot of boozed up people yesterday evening but reading this thread and seeing how it has been hijacked is pretty disgusting. I guess there are no less trolls in this part of the internet than any other. I suppose I though people sharing essentially the same business were more grounded. I was certainly shocked to see individuals with such high post counts on these forums resorting to personal attacks.
For anyone thinking Window Cleaning is simply about applying an applicator and squeegee or brush and pure water to glass... you're so very wrong! For a lot of guys Window Cleaning has been the opportunity to build their very own business from absolutely nothing, which involves a hell of a lot more skills.
I set up in business as a Window Cleaner, at the age of 46 after being made redundant, with my 20 year old son who is a fully qualified electrician who couldn't get work when the recession hit the building industry as hard as it did. 2½ years later my son has got his own place and we're doing OK. Our Window Cleaning business still having huge scope for expansion and lots of potential to offer employment in an area that suffers with high unemployment.
From a very personal view point I welcome anything that will help me learn more about my new trade, whether it be from innovation from the likes of Alex Gardiner and his approach to WFP or the likes of Impact43 who cause me to stop and think about how we do what we do.
Will my City & Guilds Window Cleaning qualification win me business? It certainly won't do me any harm and it will look nice on our letter heads (yes we have letterheads... go figure!) along side the FWC logo, CRB registration, etc. HSE involvement is becoming more and more prevalent in business, which means business is having to look closer at their suppliers, so it may even open a few doors.
Duncan
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
Trevor, i hope it will be warts and all, as we know what these magazine ( not just Lee's ) articles are like when they want to sell advertising space, you only have to look at how Admin here reacted when a sponsor was put in a bad light
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
if it is not what i expected when published then i will be putting it on here
Trevor, i hope it will be warts and all, as we know what these magazine ( not just Lee's ) articles are like when they want to sell advertising space, you only have to look at how Admin here reacted when a sponsor was put in a bad light
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It is quite easy to slag things off on here if it doesn't appeal to you.
I welcome anything in window cleaning, good or bad, because i will make my own choices.
NVQ in window cleaning, i cannot see what the problem is, its good to see people trying to do everything they can to learn more, and try and stand out from their competitors.
Before anyone starts giving it the big one !
Do you really know everything there is to know about window cleaning ?
I certainly dont know everything, and i have almost 30 years experience.
You can always learn more, and that can only be good for your business.
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the course is all to do with h and s ... its about making you aware of the safety aspects and dangers when you have a pole in your hand.... it doesnt teach you to use a squeegie or wfp guys...
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the course is all to do with h and s ... its about making you aware of the safety aspects and dangers when you have a pole in your hand.... it doesnt teach you to use a squeegie or wfp guys...
And they need 4 days to tell you that? ;D ;D
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the course is all to do with h and s ... its about making you aware of the safety aspects and dangers when you have a pole in your hand.... it doesnt teach you to use a squeegie or wfp guys...
And they need 4 days to tell you that? ;D ;D
No, the first day you spend sorting the crayons into different colours
Second day they fill in name and address on the form
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the course is all to do with h and s ... its about making you aware of the safety aspects and dangers when you have a pole in your hand.... it doesnt teach you to use a squeegie or wfp guys...
And they need 4 days to tell you that? ;D ;D
No, the first day you spend sorting the crayons into different colours
Second day they fill in name and address on the form
different coloured crayons...i imagine that would be difficult for you to deal with :)
dont worry im sure they could find something more appropriate for you
maybe the chewing of dandelions would suit you better :)
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different coloured crayons...i imagine that would be difficult for you to deal with :)
dont worry im sure they could find something more appropriate for you
maybe the chewing of dandelions would suit you better :)
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;D ;D
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the course is all to do with h and s ... its about making you aware of the safety aspects and dangers when you have a pole in your hand.... it doesnt teach you to use a squeegie or wfp guys...
And they need 4 days to tell you that? ;D ;D
No, the first day you spend sorting the crayons into different colours
Second day they fill in name and address on the form
apologizes, i have been told they also on day 2 cut out a picture for a ID card, Do not worry though folks, they use safety scissors ;)
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Stickle bricks on the last day I heard.
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some of you lot really need to get a life and get out,so little sad lifes you lead :P :P :P :P
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Give a dog a bone
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Franky when you doing your course? Shall I come with you? ;D
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Give a dog a bone
Is that a board game they played on the last day when you did the course Dave ?
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Well they can't pin the tail on the donkey - far too dangerous.
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James
I actually enjoyed the course, I got a cert, improved knowledge and loads and loads of ongoing cash from my Networking on the course.
all in all great days out.
For my own selfish point of view, i dont want anyone else to do the course.
Everyone please don't go on this course, you need to leave all the qualifications for me
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James
I actually enjoyed the course, I got a cert, improved knowledge and loads and loads of ongoing cash from my Networking on the course.
all in all great days out.
For my own selfish point of view, i dont want anyone else to do the course.
Everyone please don't go on this course, you need to leave all the qualifications for me
:)
If anyone needs training on waterfed pole that's shown on the course if needed same as trad cleaning just thought I better add that in
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you get free coffee ;D
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you get free coffee ;D
and biscuits :)
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well guys not sure what the motive for slating the course but i think it was worth it .its not a bad thing to do . i'm now thinking going on the advanced course and maybe progress to a degree in window cleaning ... this time next month i could be on the rd to a masters ..... so there :P
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you guys are right....i wasted 3 days of my time ... all for a good cup of coffee and biscuits i guess us beer money boys can stick our heads in the sand and hope nothing goes wrong . and here's me thinking it cant be a bad thing ... im gonna throw mine in the bin upon this very moment .
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i wonder if this guy had he done the nvq course would he still be lying in intensive care fighting for life
http://training43.com/window-cleaner-fights-for-his-life-after-hotel-fall/
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just received my city and guild certificates ... nice one impact 43 ;D ;D ;D.
Congratulations :)
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your no longer A COWBOY your a proper window cleaner ;D
;D
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still haven't got mine :-[
E mail Jamie in the office and we will see if we can get a date ...Andy
jamie@impact43.com
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Nice one!
We got ours a couple of months ago and we're both still chuffed to bits. :D
Duncan
Well done guys :)
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The three of us got ours today too
Congratulations all round :)
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How long from completing the course / work place assessment did you have to wait chaps?
Still waiting for mine thata all ;D
Paul, give Jamie an e-mail and we will see if we can chase it up, ...Andy
jamie@impact43.com
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All my customers laugh at me for having an NVQ, I nearly got barred from cleaning a local hospital when they found out.
:)
Knowledge is power ;D
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NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.
Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,
You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?
You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,
NVQ do me a favour and i'm out ;)
Matt,
Nice site
http://www.pure-windowcleaning.co.uk/safety.html
Looks like a professional set up
I would have thought the City and Guilds would only enhance what you already have.
Regards
Andy
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If the training has changed, does this mean it wasn't good before ?
When you stick your guys on later in the year I would love you sit through the new workshops. I feel we have improved them quite a bit over the last two years. The van for example with loads of kit that the window cleaners can try out. :)
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
RE Trevors comments, pending article,
It is easy to comment on what improvements could be made.
I would like to make loads, however we have to work within the City and Guilds standards, we have loads of extra items that are above what should be included.
Just for the record I can advise that funding will stop from the end of July,
so for those that have jumped on the wagon, its been fun and I have loved every minute.
We have seen some excellent guys come through and I hope all have taken something away from the course.
Its funny, I have spent the last couple of days in the office imroving the course for our current contract, so I am always trying to make improvements.
For those who come on the forum just to slate the course without actually having attended, Its not that clever.
You would be doing well if you had 10% of the knowledge and experience that the likes of Ian Wicks has.
;)
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Andrew, do you plan to do any courses in the east of england. More specifically the Lowestoft or Great Yarmouth area?
I would like to do one or more of your courses but i think the nearest you have been is Norwich which is 30 miles away.
Any plans on this in the future?
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NVQ in window cleaning indeed , having read this thread a did chuckle a couple of times at the image of mr and mrs smith's window cleaner looking all proud when he rocks up and announces his newly aquired NVQ and then they close the door and p themselves .... brilliant!................... if you need to sit an exam to make yourself feel that your business choice is worthwhile then maybe you lot are the ones who really feel inferior for bein JUST a window cleaner.
Get and NVQ and any other 2 bit qualifications that the latest training firm comes up with to make a few quid to try and convince yourselves that this really is very professional after all , or just stand tall and announce that you are a window cleaner and not feel inferior , your choice,
You have chosen window cleaning for whatever reason you have chosen it , most of you are WFP cos you understand health and safety, you are sensible and dont wanna risk injuries running up and down a ladder everyday. You already have the common sense and are already self aware enough to understand safety of you and others around you (the majority of you anyway) due to you advances in the trade that you have already taken and invested in. Do you really need to give up your earnings for a day/week or however long it takes for someone to tell you what you already know and give you a certificate at the end of it?
You lot choose what you want to do with your own feelings of inferiority but i say,
NVQ do me a favour and i'm out ;)
Matt,
Nice site
http://www.pure-windowcleaning.co.uk/safety.html
Looks like a professional set up
I would have thought the City and Guilds would only enhance what you already have.
Regards
Andy
Matts site says.............
As a professional cleaning company the Health & Safety of our clients and our workforce is extremely important to us.
I'd be certain that Matt has a great in house training system if he doesn't use or rely on city and guilds quals, don't you Matt ?
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Andrew, do you plan to do any courses in the east of england. More specifically the Lowestoft or Great Yarmouth area?
I would like to do one or more of your courses but i think the nearest you have been is Norwich which is 30 miles away.
Any plans on this in the future?
Hi Mark
Norwich will be the nearest, Give Gary a call in the office 01205 364333
Regards
Andy
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I've been quite vocal on here regarding government funding for these courses etc. But I must confess I haven't looked too closely at what the course entails other than there's a fair amount of h&s. Could those who have done it tell me roughly what percentage is h&s, running a business & actual cleaning windows?
Hi DG , i am currently on the course at the moment with one more day to do this wednesday, when i have finished i will be giving my views both positive and negative on how i viewed the course, Lee has asked me to write an article for his magazine and i have accepted to do this i hope it helps as i am sorry to say if the subject starts being discussed on here i feel it does not take long before the debates get personal and so loose any benefit to anybody.
RE Trevors comments, pending article,
It is easy to comment on what improvements could be made.
I would like to make loads, however we have to work within the City and Guilds standards, we have loads of extra items that are above what should be included.
Just for the record I can advise that funding will stop from the end of July,
so for those that have jumped on the wagon, its been fun and I have loved every minute.
We have seen some excellent guys come through and I hope all have taken something away from the course.
Its funny, I have spent the last couple of days in the office imroving the course for our current contract, so I am always trying to make improvements.
For those who come on the forum just to slate the course without actually having attended, Its not that clever.
You would be doing well if you had 10% of the knowledge and experience that the likes of Ian Wicks has.
;)
;D ;D ;D ;D
That must be why he's such a success? ;D
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really pleased i went on the course andrew.. regardless of the negatives from some on here .you are a top bloke and a pleasure to meet the impact 43 team .......inc ian wickes lol...
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really pleased i went on the course andrew.. regardless of the negatives from some on here .you are a top bloke and a pleasure to meet the impact 43 team .......inc ian wickes lol...
Thank you, that's a very nice thing to say, much appreciated. :)
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Hi Andrew
I would gladly sit the course again, especially considering how much money I made on the last one
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I done the course too, i'd highly recommend it. It great for anyone in the game to get a bit smarter as regards the law and HS issues affecting them. For someone starting from scratch though who knows nothing that course by http://www.windowcleaningcollege.co.uk/ looks good. And the city and guilds course does not and is not aimed at getting you going like the window cleaning college one. They're all good !! ;D
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I done the course too, i'd highly recommend it. It great for anyone in the game to get a bit smarter as regards the law and HS issues affecting them. For someone starting from scratch though who knows nothing that course by http://www.windowcleaningcollege.co.uk/ looks good. And the city and guilds course does not and is not aimed at getting you going like the window cleaning college one. They're all good !! ;D
Great post
I totally agree as over 90% of City and Guilds attendees are experienced or have been window cleaning for more than a year.
The City and guilds QCF qualification is designed to test your ability to actually do they job. A key part of our course will include proving that you have knowledge and can do certain work-related tasks; during the course a portfolio of work is created where we build evidence of the work you have done and by observation, where an assessor watches you work and checks that you can do the task. We then also provide training and point people towards other suitable training needs.
Interestingly most recommendations we make for other training is towards other training suppliers. IPAF, PASMA, IRATA, BWCA courses, Self-rescue,
I agree we need more start up and general window cleaning coaching training and it is something we are and have been working on as a recognized training provider. Its one of the reasons we have put a dedicated training van on the road. I am currently working on a start up mentoring course. May even have some funding?
All I would ask and focus on at the moment is that training providers and coaches should have proven ability, accredited; that trainers need to be experienced and accountable.
PS I still like the idea of window cleaners helping each other out, ......unpaid
Regards Andy
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Hi Andrew
I would gladly sit the course again, especially considering how much money I made on the last one
;)
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starting my uni course next month its only for 5 days but when i finish it i will be a professor of window cleaning. then i will open the school of window cleaning for anyone wanting to learn the secrets of the job. i will make millions then retire. :-*
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starting my uni course next month its only for 5 days but when i finish it i will be a professor of window cleaning. then i will open the school of window cleaning for anyone wanting to learn the secrets of the job. i will make millions then retire. :-*
can i go on that course too? ;D