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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: richywilts on November 21, 2012, 08:50:49 pm

Title: Fire damaged brickwork
Post by: richywilts on November 21, 2012, 08:50:49 pm
a friend had a fire in her kitchen and has got some smoke damage i presume on her brickwork whats the best way to clean this with pressure washer will water clean it or do i need to used any detergents
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 21, 2012, 10:38:07 pm
If there was a fire in her kitchen and you pressure wash it you will also have flood damage to clear up. You'll need a degreaser like ultrapac renovate, the sponges and a thermo fogger. Ring someone like Restormate and take proper advice on the works and products. Why can't she just claim on her house insurance ?
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: richywilts on November 22, 2012, 04:03:23 am
kitchens all been re fitted i think carl but when the fire took place its damaged the brickwork on the external wall from smoke damage etc and charred the guttering and down pipe
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 22, 2012, 08:57:17 am
OK then same proceedure - degreaser then pressure wash with hot if you've got it. I use alkaline and a caustic product on these jobs - usually wheely bin fires
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Matt Gibson on November 22, 2012, 09:10:12 am
I always use hydrofluoric acid on smoke stains. neolith do a premixed acid 625ss.  bit pricey but it works a treat.
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 22, 2012, 05:15:34 pm
Have you got a Harben depot near you ?
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Matt Gibson on November 22, 2012, 05:50:50 pm
Ive got a flowplant near me. same thing i think. all their stuff is way overpriced. but its handy when i ojly need a small ammount or if ive run out.
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 22, 2012, 05:58:31 pm
Sorry yes they are the same thing
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Griffus on November 22, 2012, 06:14:01 pm
Though I've not used it for this purpose Ultrapac Renovate is good stuff and it does state that it's good foor this. Worth a go I'd say.

Don't forget a stiff brush and loads of elbow grease too!!
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Nick Attwood on November 22, 2012, 08:24:02 pm
Personally I would not go anywhere near it with WATER! (this is from experience) Brickwork can be a pig! My advise without seeing it and depending on the amount of carbon present would be:

Latex/Chemical Sponge down the affected area first! (done dry)

The I would apply Grip Soot (this does not come cheep)
http://www.chemspecdirect.co.uk/grip-soot-2-part-latex-soot-carbon-smoke-damage-restorer-for-wood-stone.html

Then I would start to use water / chosen product, if you use water first there is going to be one hell of a mess and twice the work!

A spinner is good for this work like the Gekko X-7
http://hydramaster.co.uk/index.php/hard-surface-cleaning/80-accessories/149

JK I'm sure could sort you out with all of the above.

PS. Double the amount of time you think this will take.
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 22, 2012, 10:06:30 pm
 so its £300 for soot grip and at least that again for the fsc you suggest ? 
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Nick Attwood on November 22, 2012, 11:22:01 pm
so its £300 for soot grip and at least that again for the fsc you suggest ? 

You need the right tools for the job!
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Matt Gibson on November 23, 2012, 08:03:10 am
Or you can know how to do the job right with the tools you've got  ;)
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Nick Attwood on November 23, 2012, 08:25:01 am
With all due respect, you can't do the job RIGHT without the right TOOLS.

The guy asked how to do the job, I simply provided the answer from my professional knowledge of dealing in fire restoration over the past 10 years.
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: richywilts on November 24, 2012, 01:56:03 am
i think im gonna pass on this job sounds like it all getting a bit technical for a dumb ass window cleaner  ;D ;D ;D

anyone in the wirral region interested i will pass on details thanks

also thank you to everyone who replied ive not actually looked at job yet so do not really know condition but being a mate shes going to want it dirt cheap
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 24, 2012, 10:20:48 am
Richy just get the chemical and go and wash it. Don't listen to the scare mongers - someone who has no after fire photos on their gallery
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: Nick Attwood on November 24, 2012, 10:25:30 am
Richy just get the chemical and go and wash it. Don't listen to the scare mongers - someone who has no after fire photos on their gallery

Says the person who does not even advertise Fire Restoration! And must have a wealth of experience!!!

I tried to point Richy in the right direction and provided some knowledgeable advice.
Title: Re: fire damaged brickwork
Post by: BDCS on November 24, 2012, 08:04:02 pm
 ;D ;D ;D