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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: keyser soze on November 18, 2012, 04:18:13 pm
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customer attacked me in the supermarket .he owed me a lot of money i confronted him . he said he'll wait outside and when i came out he thumped me in the head from behind .followed by a volley of you are gonna get it. my trolley full of shopping went tumbling.:o. problem for him its all on camera . do i report it to police ???
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YES - report to police ... dont let the scumbag get away with assault and not paying
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customer attacked me in the supermarket .he owed me a lot of money i confronted him . he said he'll wait outside and when i came out he thumped me in the head from behind .followed by a volley of you are gonna get it. my trolley full of shopping went tumbling.:o. problem for him its all on camera . do i report it to police ???
without a doubt this person should be in a cage if he wants to act like an animal, hope your ok
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happened about 3 oclock .it didnt hurt at the time but ive got a bad headache and neck is sore now. he hit me without me being aware from behind ... bit of a coward thing to do . i managed to defend myself, and when i did he backed off.
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customer attacked me in the supermarket .he owed me a lot of money i confronted him . he said he'll wait outside and when i came out he thumped me in the head from behind .followed by a volley of you are gonna get it. my trolley full of shopping went tumbling.:o. problem for him its all on camera . do i report it to police ???
1. Hope you're OK
2. You must report it to the Police. Then he'll know that if there's any follow up he'll be the one whose door the Police knock down.
VIn
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well i live in liverpool and we tend not to get the police involved , but i think its a disgrace and you should tell the police , were all in this together mate drop him in it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
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customer attacked me in the supermarket .he owed me a lot of money i confronted him . he said he'll wait outside and when i came out he thumped me in the head from behind .followed by a volley of you are gonna get it. my trolley full of shopping went tumbling.:o. problem for him its all on camera . do i report it to police ???
Jeez you went shoppping for a baguette and ended up leaving with a knuckle sandwich? :o
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how much does he owe u is it worth pursuing
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how much does he owe u is it worth pursuing
he will owe a hell of a lot more now
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I can't believe you're asking if you should go to the police!!!
Yes, of course you ruddy should.
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id have destroyed him! but thats not the best way you did the rite thing id report him and get him done for that teach the tw*t a lesson!
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
Good! Keep us updated, please. I'd like to hear how this turns out.
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def tosh . im intrigued to know myself tbh
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well i live in liverpool and we tend not to get the police involved , but i think its a disgrace and you should tell the police , were all in this together mate drop him in it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
What difference dose living in Liverpool make to phoning the old bill?
Yes mate get the law involved.
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More importantly
Did He cordon of the 6 ft around you when he felled you from behind ?
The law Mr Willis and Washers say he should have
Hope you are ok
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
Bet he is under incredible stress to do that. Don't let him go undealt with by the authorities; he sounds an incredible danger to anyone he comes across.
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Maybe a risk assessment required before looking to get paid in Asda
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Did He cordon of the 6 ft around you when he felled you from behind ?
The law Mr Willis and Washers say he should have
Hope you are ok
ironically i will prob get hse on my back because i didnt corden an area around myself
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well i live in liverpool and we tend not to get the police involved , but i think its a disgrace and you should tell the police , were all in this together mate drop him in it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
What difference dose living in Liverpool make to phoning the old bill?
Yes mate get the law involved.
yep i thought that was strange aswell...i always thought scousers were supposed to be
a bit limp wristed with squeaky voices ;D
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well i live in liverpool and we tend not to get the police involved , but i think its a disgrace and you should tell the police , were all in this together mate drop him in it >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(
What difference dose living in Liverpool make to phoning the old bill?
Yes mate get the law involved.
I thought the same. All this looking after your own nonsense gets nothing good done. The old bill are there for a reason, use them. Sometimes they even get things done! If its all on CCTV your in a good position. Do him, then sue him too. Hope he goes down for a very long time.
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More importantly
Did He cordon of the 6 ft around you when he felled you from behind ?
The law Mr Willis and Washers say he should have
Hope you are ok
ironically i will prob get hse on my back because i didnt corden an area around myself
I reckon he'll sue you for not preventing his attack!
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
I wonder how long it will take for them to turn up?
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
I wonder how long it will take for them to turn up?
Tomorrow would be fine; it's not an emergency anymore.
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police on the way . it would make my day if he spent the evening in the cells tbh.he owes me 300
I wonder how long it will take for them to turn up?
not here yet. about to have my dinner . they will come then i bet
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you may have been better off going to the station, someone would have taken your statement, on a lighter note, i get no agro in tesco
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Course you should get the police involved straight away! and make court proceedings for the 300 he owes you. even if it cost me more just for the principal i would do it.
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Where do you work?
I would keep well out the area. Cant believe it. Bet he cant afford to pay you and thought you should be shopping in Lidels ;D
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you may have been better off going to the station, someone would have taken your statement, on a lighter note, i get no agro in tesco
:)
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No need for scum like that. What has the world come too.... ::)
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this bloke needs locking up man. do report it the the fuzz.
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police turned up . he told me he would review the footage on the cctv. its possible the camera was facing the right way but unlikely. no witnesses either . so the best he could help me is he would go and see him and give him a caution. although not an official one . cop out springs to mind . i should of just belted him( not the copper) lol . unless the cctv proves helpful of course .......police are coming back in a hour after reviewing the tapes
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It's not a cop out if there isn't any CCTV; it's your word against his.
I was threatened offline by someone on here. There was text message evidence. Threatening. The best they (police) reckoned they could do was caution (unofficial) the fella as he claimed it was a member of staff.
You'll be lucky if they threaten him with anything, it's your word against his. They won't bother, I wouldn't.
The guy that threatened me was Scottish, from Perth. First name Gordon.
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Whats them£300 he owe's you for he's house or a commercial job??. Seems too high for a domestic custie.
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That's what a get for shopping in asda that's why I try and stick to sainsburys or waitrose you get a better class of thug there lol
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It's not a cop out if there isn't any CCTV; it's your word against his.
I was threatened offline by someone on here. There was text message evidence. Threatening. The best they (police) reckoned they could do was caution (unofficial) the fella as he claimed it was a member of staff.
You'll be lucky if they threaten him with anything, it's your word against his. They won't bother, I wouldn't.
The guy that threatened me was Scottish, from Perth. First name Gordon.
from here, I mean the forum
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After a very brief discussion in-store with a customer services manager at my local Asda i was given £5 in cash and asked to sign a form acknowledging i am barred from every Asda store and petrol forecourt in the UK.
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no cctv but possible coverage from store cameras. police have gone to hear what he has to say about what happened..and give him a stern telling off..... lol ....policeman is gonna ring me later and tell me what he has to say .........
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It's not a cop out if there isn't any CCTV; it's your word against his.
I was threatened offline by someone on here. There was text message evidence. Threatening. The best they (police) reckoned they could do was caution (unofficial) the fella as he claimed it was a member of staff.
You'll be lucky if they threaten him with anything, it's your word against his. They won't bother, I wouldn't.
The guy that threatened me was Scottish, from Perth. First name Gordon.
from here, I mean the forum
Yes from CIU.
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The missus had a right go at me today in Asda, at the check-out, in front of loads of other shoppers :-[.
She was calling me a lazy **** and really shouting.
I was that shocked, I nearly fell out of the trolley.
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You should have Aldi, we don't have ruffians there ;D
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If I was being juvenile I would say go and buy some eggs or WD40. Would be best of all if they were ASDA eggs and use them on his house, and leave the box on the doorstep.
But I'm a grown up so I won't.
In all seriousness how about going to a 'no win no fee' solicitor and sue him for the days of work you lost, trauma, and emotional stress. I don't think you'll win but it should annoy the bloke a bit.
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Its a little bit of a cop out if you go to the police and they can do nothing without camera evidence. But its wrong to react to this yourself. I don`t understand, don`t take the law into your hands. Were the hell is justice. The law is a joke there no respect out there. >:( >:(
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It's not really a "cop out"; it's the way the law has to work.
Let me suggest a scenario for you. You meet someone in Asda who asks you for some cash for an outstanding debt. You tell them to get lost, as you don't owe them. He wanders off and you don't see him again.
Two hours later a policeman turns up and arrests you for assaulting the bloke.
"Where's your evidence?" you cry.
"Well, no witnesses, no CCTV so we really don't have any but the other bloke assures us that you did attack him so we're going to be charging you"
Would you prefer that as a way for the Police to work?
They have to have evidence or it's one man's word against another's.
Vin
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More importantly
Did He cordon of the 6 ft around you when he felled you from behind ?
The law Mr Willis and Washers say he should have
Hope you are ok
ironically i will prob get hse on my back because i didnt corden an area around myself
Maybe something to think about in the future.
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If you got attacked at the main entrance to asda there will be witnesses
go and speak to some one at asda tell them you were attacked a worker
must have seen what happen'd or put notice in local rag appealing
for witnesses and defo start civil proceeding for money due
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I got ban from Asda just because a member of staff would not exchange a faulty computer mouse and I asked to call a manager.He was very close to me and had a foul breath so I told him to move back as he was invading my space and security came and escorted me out. At the the ripe old age of 61 I got banned. I knew the store manager gave him a call so got allowed back inn. Quite and achievement. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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So in Asda you can slap your own bum and its an advert, but if you slap anyone else's bum its a ban. ;)
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police turned up . he told me he would review the footage on the cctv. its possible the camera was facing the right way but unlikely. no witnesses either . so the best he could help me is he would go and see him and give him a caution. although not an official one . cop out springs to mind . i should of just belted him( not the copper) lol . unless the cctv proves helpful of course .......police are coming back in a hour after reviewing the tapes
If the suspect has previous convictions / cautions for a similar offence then he shouldn't be eligible for a caution.
What's the point of an unofficial caution anyway?
Definitely sounds like an attempt at a cop out before any investigations taken place
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In hindsight it probably would have been best to call the police when he threatened to wait outside to beat you up.
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update
cops interviewed him and he said I ATTACKED HIM :o . when the officer said it was on tape he back tracked and said he was provoked because i called him a thief in the supermarket. which i did tbh . the cop warned him that he cant hit anybody and i was within my right to have him charged . although he said to me the incident would result in an official caution in his opinion, that's if i did want to go that way. i don't know why but i told him i'll leave it . my thoughts are every dog has its day and there are several ways to skin a cat.
i wonder what would happen if next week i crept up to him in asda and gave him a right hander. :o he got away with it
thanks chaps
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In hindsight it probably would have been best to call the police when he threatened to wait outside to beat you up.
you are right..... dominic...hindsight and all
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Official caution,? GBH it is! Seriously, take this as far as you can!! Somebody threw something at me through the window some time ago, sadly the police couldn't find them as they were travellers. They said it's GBH, and somebody attacking you definitely is.
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What about the doe he ows you
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Maybe it would be an idea to ring or write to the guy asking for the money owed to you and a written apology and then you will consider the matter closed.
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It isn't gbh unless they caused serious damage and even then there are 2 levels which are with intent or without intent, what it is is common assault. :-D
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cops interviewed him and he said I ATTACKED HIM :o . when the officer said it was on tape he back tracked and said he was provoked because i called him a thief in the supermarket. which i did tbh . the cop warned him that he cant hit anybody and i was within my right to have him charged . although he said to me the incident would result in an official caution in his opinion, that's if i did want to go that way. i don't know why but i told him i'll leave it . my thoughts are every dog has its day and there are several ways to skin a cat.
i wonder what would happen if next week i crept up to him in asda and gave him a right hander. :o he got away with it
thanks chaps
If it's on tape and the officer said so you could have him bang to rights surely? Might your not choosing to press charges be a way of levering your dosh from him? Careful you don't prejudice your case tho'.
In a previous life a director stole goods to the value of a few thousand pounds from a company and the other directors called the police. He was taken from his home and interviewed at the station.
A Detective Superintendent who was a wise old bird said to (the remaining directors) that it wasn't a high level crime (police wise) and if it was chosen to settle it civilly by letting it be known to the thieving director he wouldn't get his input money back (about equal to what could be proven he stole) or any salary in lieu of notice (saving a couple of grand) and got him to sign a "deed" in front of a notary solicitor signing over his shares then that might be a way of sorting it without continuing to involve the police.
Not that there could be any coercion mind! ;)
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I always buy a french stick to protect myself with, in case anybody tries to attack me whilst shopping.
You can also eat the 'weapon' after.
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you now have the police as a witness ,so go down the civil court route.
Take him (her) ;D to court for loss of wages due to injurry and cost and money owed.
Sure this is possible
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Official caution,? GBH it is! Seriously, take this as far as you can!! Somebody threw something at me through the window some time ago, sadly the police couldn't find them as they were travellers. They said it's GBH, and somebody attacking you definitely is.
I still feel bad.
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Could've charged him with affray
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Affray
Sound like he was well up for a scrap - I wouldn't let anyone get away it
If its on tape it should now be out of your hands - the police don't let victims decide if the attacker Is charged or not
Anyhow, hope you are ok
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i was attacked about 18 months ago by three people.i had to do a runner and called the police while being attacked.when they disd turn up the police were no real help at all.
this did prompt me to start to learn wing chun.funny enough about a month ago two guys approached me after a class (not that they knew ).i managed to put one on the floor straight away and the other one backed off.i then got out of there as quick as i could.
its a dangerous world guys ,learn how to protect yourself.
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its not over guys. he didn't exactly hurt me . if he did i would have a different attitude to it . i'm a little embarrassed for him tbh. i think he will try something again especially when i tease him a little next week at asda . seats anyone?.
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An apology would be nice but is trying to rub his nose in it. You should just let him know that if he pays his bill you 'won't take the assault any further.'
You shouldl both get closure out of it then.
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you now have the police as a witness ,so go down the civil court route.
Take him (her) ;D to court for loss of wages due to injurry and cost and money owed.
Sure this is possible
are you a bit simple ????? look this guy as just knocked cowboy out in the middle of the afternoon in the middle of a shop which means this guy doesnt care about the law or who gets in his way
giveing it large and takeing the guy to court wont put cowboys van out when it sets alight one night nore will it fit new windows in his house at 1am let alone what good happen on a dark morning when going to work ! unless you can fight fire with fire and be a bigger bully then this nutter i would just write the 300 off myself
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you now have the police as a witness ,so go down the civil court route.
Take him (her) ;D to court for loss of wages due to injurry and cost and money owed.
Sure this is possible
are you a bit simple ????? look this guy as just knocked cowboy out in the middle of the afternoon in the middle of a shop which means this guy doesnt care about the law or who gets in his way
giveing it large and takeing the guy to court wont put cowboys van out when it sets alight one night nore will it fit new windows in his house at 1am let alone what good happen on a dark morning when going to work ! unless you can fight fire with fire and be a bigger bully then this nutter i would just write the 300 off myself
Yes but as long as you don't let it destroy your confidence, yoiu can make it financially work for you if he has another go. Maybe with a bit of foresight, personal injury insurance could be in place for the next time. Then i think the criminal injuries board pay out some cash as well?
I must admit i wouldn't ask a customer for payment out shopping.
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yeh lets just give up, and let the thugs take over
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you now have the police as a witness ,so go down the civil court route.
Take him (her) ;D to court for loss of wages due to injurry and cost and money owed.
Sure this is possible
are you a bit simple ????? look this guy as just knocked cowboy out in the middle of the afternoon in the middle of a shop which means this guy doesnt care about the law or who gets in his way
giveing it large and takeing the guy to court wont put cowboys van out when it sets alight one night nore will it fit new windows in his house at 1am let alone what good happen on a dark morning when going to work ! unless you can fight fire with fire and be a bigger bully then this nutter i would just write the 300 off myself
Yes but as long as you don't let it destroy your confidence, yoiu can make it financially work for you if he has another go. Maybe with a bit of foresight, personal injury insurance could be in place for the next time. Then i think the criminal injuries board pay out some cash as well?
I must admit i wouldn't ask a customer for payment out shopping.
I have been shopping many times in asdas when customers have come up to me and paid, sorry but if im owed £300 i would go and ask when are you going to pay me :(
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When's the next big shop?
Go get him, cowboy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5sLwPziSznU&feature=fwwrel
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yeh lets just give up, and let the thugs take over
funny thing is i'm big enough and ugly enough to look after myself . he doesn't scare me even when he was giving it large . remember he took his best shot and i laughed in his face.
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apparently when i called him a thief he flipped :o
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Prosecute, it asda be done.
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yeh lets just give up, and let the thugs take over
funny thing is i'm big enough and ugly enough to look after myself . he doesn't scare me even when he was giving it large . remember he took his best shot and i laughed in his face.
im sure you would cowboy, sorry my response was to susans quote, taking it down the legal route, he cant get away with that mate.... .j.
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yeh lets just give up, and let the thugs take over
funny thing is i'm big enough and ugly enough to look after myself . he doesn't scare me even when he was giving it large . remember he took his best shot and i laughed in his face.
great answer ! i live with a 18 stone travler that fights for fun every weekend and guess what ? you and him should get togather
you can both just smile when theres a knifes hanging out of you both as you take your last breath i am sure your love one will be happy knowing you died happy ! :'( come use i bit you commen and think about it 300 pounds is a lot too lose but theres one then one way to skin a cat
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Quote from: wightsurf on Yesterday at 07:32:57 pm
you now have the police as a witness ,so go down the civil court route.
Take him (her) Grin to court for loss of wages due to injurry and cost and money owed.
Sure this is possible
are you a bit simple Huh?? look this guy as just knocked cowboy out in the middle of the afternoon in the middle of a shop which means this guy doesnt care about the law or who gets in his way
giveing it large and takeing the guy to court wont put cowboys van out when it sets alight one night nore will it fit new windows in his house at 1am let alone what good happen on a dark morning when going to work ! unless you can fight fire with fire and be a bigger bully then this nutter i would just write the 300 off myself
Been reading too much martina cole pulp ;)
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Can't believe no one on here has mentioned "DUMP" ;)
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Official caution,? GBH it is! Seriously, take this as far as you can!! Somebody threw something at me through the window some time ago, sadly the police couldn't find them as they were travellers. They said it's GBH, and somebody attacking you definitely is.
I still feel bad.
;D
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bloody hell , police didnt even do anything.. i know its his word againts yours but imagine if someone was really hurt say a jaw was broken ? would they still just act in the manner ? what he done he should get arrested for abh, sounds to me unless something is on camera or you have a whitness these scum bags can get away with anything..
i know this is pointless but why does he owe you £300 , sounds alot for a domestic , personally if its the first time you are trading with someone i never give them more then £50 worth of credit if its more which is rare they will have to pay up front did you do like a conny roof,windows,gutters,power washed drive sounds like a big job