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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 17, 2012, 09:09:44 pm

Title: Phoenix Review.
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 17, 2012, 09:09:44 pm
Hi, just wondering if anyone has got a worthwhile review they could share with us yet? thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 17, 2012, 09:18:07 pm
Paul marshall ;)
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Barnes Wallis on November 17, 2012, 10:38:41 pm
Black Sabbath.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Spruce on November 17, 2012, 10:46:55 pm
Hi, just wondering if anyone has got a worthwhile review they could share with us yet? thanks in advance.

Gone very quiet hasn't it?
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Barnes Wallis on November 17, 2012, 11:06:17 pm
Shhhhhh
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: rosskesava on November 18, 2012, 01:30:08 am
Rock a bye baby on the tree top.......................
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on November 18, 2012, 05:46:32 am
What do you need to know I have posted before its a good pole
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: SB Cleaning on November 18, 2012, 07:44:18 am
Hi, just wondering if anyone has got a worthwhile review they could share with us yet? thanks in advance.

Gone very quiet hasn't it?
certainly has ;D
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 18, 2012, 09:01:11 am
Is this the "world's best", "industry changing" Phoenix pole? ;D

On that note- I wonder how the similarly marketed Unger contraption is doing? LMAO ;D
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: andyM on November 18, 2012, 09:35:16 am
Is this the "world's best", "industry changing" Phoenix pole? ;D

On that note- I wonder how the similarly marketed Unger contraption is doing? LMAO ;D
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The last I heard the poles are doing a sterling job propping up washing lines throughout Europe.  ;D
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Ian101 on November 18, 2012, 11:02:08 am
i went to the vanfest at Richy wilts unit and had a good hold of their cheapest glass fibre pole

Felt and looked good ..... cetainly better than my first xtel poles.

Would I buy it over a 18 CLX @ £93 + the extras ? or would I buy the Phonix 15ft / 18ft reach  @ £110

well cracking pole to feel and wave about but at £17 more for a non carbon composite nope its a no brainer.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on November 18, 2012, 02:15:36 pm
i went to the vanfest at Richy wilts unit and had a good hold of their cheapest glass fibre pole

Felt and looked good ..... cetainly better than my first xtel poles.

Would I buy it over a 18 CLX @ £93 + the extras ? or would I buy the Phonix 15ft / 18ft reach  @ £110

well cracking pole to feel and wave about but at £17 more for a non carbon composite nope its a no brainer.

Just to clarify....The Phoenix 18 pro is the CLX equivalent in material (hybrid) this pole is £89.95+VAT

Poles are going really well, now available through a few distributors on the UK, take a look around the net. Plenty of customers out there using them now!

Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on November 18, 2012, 05:01:53 pm
Something doesnt add up when a supplier doesnt put the newest pole and what they consider the best pole (should be) on their website. Makes you think dont it.

Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on November 18, 2012, 06:52:40 pm
Something doesnt add up when a supplier doesnt put the newest pole and what they consider the best pole (should be) on their website. Makes you think dont it.



It's been a fair few weeks since we told people our website was being redone............

The Phoenix can be seen and bought from a number of distributors...

Hope this again clears up what doesn't add up...
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 18, 2012, 07:01:32 pm
As CIU is probably the largest w\c forum I thought we would of had a few reviews by now. I want to know what it is like out there in the real world working with it. Anyone?

I do not want another facelift debate.
 
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 18, 2012, 07:40:06 pm
can you really tell how good a pole is within a month!!!!!

really need to see a review when 6months old then again in 12months.


i look and wiat at the handling and wear issue,

i never buy when something 1st comes out i wait for the faults to be ironed out first,saves a lot of trouble.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on November 18, 2012, 07:53:04 pm
can you really tell how good a pole is within a month!!!!!


I agree with that.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 18, 2012, 08:07:15 pm
come on you can tell how good a pole is within a day of use. !!!! WE ALSO ALL KNOW poles will wear. I am not bothered about wear, just a general idea of clamps, anti pinch, reach etc. its ok looking at the spec's but some good old fashioned use normally highlights any problems if any.

Anyone using one care to comment, anyone anywhere?

Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: wightsurf on November 18, 2012, 08:16:34 pm
First thoughts on the 18ft  Pheonix FG and the UL
                
I bought this cheap version for staff with the view it would be more robust than a hybrid and more usable than Harris pole,off which i have plenty of experience off  ;D

Its a slim pole when put next to other poles that i own .It has a very short insert that fits where the UL section would fit,this has a red clamp  .
The clamps are very nice to use .Love them actualy  ;D
People are getting mixed up with prices i have seen , so the FG is cheaper than say CLX of of the same length.
The 18ft FG is a very usable pole on the budget end of the market.
As always theres a BUT and this is the brush.You need a superlite or similar as a heavy brush and its just to whippy.This is on the cards with Facelift and have been told something is due to be released in the coming months.

Now the Ul section,its very lite and to be honest you hardly know you have added it when the pole is closed .Although i have been using it on the 18ft making it a 22ft the idea is very good.You still have a very short pole with the added hieght if you need it.There are two ways of using this.
One, only use the ul if the extra reach is needed or Two, use it like a everyday pole.
Two is what i am doing.,so as to give it a real going over to see what it can do.
I think it will last and i believe the competion will be looking at adding this option to there poles.

This is still early days yet and i will update in the coming weeks to let you know how its going.But give them a chance after all its us who benifit in the end.
Customer care is also looking very good at the moment.They have done everything they said they would.This can only be a positive thing in my Book.



Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on November 18, 2012, 08:23:55 pm
THANKYOU.
At last a reply and a review worth reading thank you very much.
They look like they are shaping up well!
regards
Dave
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: wightsurf on November 18, 2012, 08:29:08 pm
If my engine hadnt of just blown i would of been buying the hybrid for sure.
But i have just got a transit so its going to have to wait until the new yr.
The ul is a clever bit of thinking if you ask me .But the wear and tear is a waiting game as we all know.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on November 18, 2012, 08:44:15 pm
My ex wife is a web designer so i know how long it takes to get a good website made up, especially an e-commerce website.

What i also know is that you will have lost sales by NOT creating a page advertising the new range, even if it just gives a link to the companys that ARE selling your new pole range.

Its not hard to create a single additional page and a button as you have the templates already. Its just a case of copying and editing.

Suppose if you dont want to sell more poles then its not a problem.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: wightsurf on November 18, 2012, 09:13:29 pm
I see what you are saying here Bluefrog.But isnt windowcleaningwarehouse and facelift one company now.As windowcleaningwarehouse have them on there website but facelift dont.So its a case of one company 2 websites ....I think  ???
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on November 18, 2012, 09:54:39 pm
No they are seperate. Wcw sell all different suppliers stuff where as face lift sell their own. I believe aqua dapter also sell face lift Pole's
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on November 18, 2012, 10:03:45 pm
WCW bought Facelift out! They at least bought the rights to the poles, not 100% about the rest of the Facelift business.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Ian101 on November 19, 2012, 08:31:26 am
i went to the vanfest at Richy wilts unit and had a good hold of their cheapest glass fibre pole

Felt and looked good ..... cetainly better than my first xtel poles.

Would I buy it over a 18 CLX @ £93 + the extras ? or would I buy the Phonix 15ft / 18ft reach  @ £110

well cracking pole to feel and wave about but at £17 more for a non carbon composite nope its a no brainer.

Just to clarify....The Phoenix 18 pro is the CLX equivalent in material (hybrid) this pole is £89.95+VAT

Poles are going really well, now available through a few distributors on the UK, take a look around the net. Plenty of customers out there using them now!



Sorry Mike I went to your website to get the info.

http://www.faceliftcleaning.com/glass-fibre-poles

No info on the pole you mention ?? .... please show link if Im missing it

Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on November 19, 2012, 08:44:25 am
i went to the vanfest at Richy wilts unit and had a good hold of their cheapest glass fibre pole

Felt and looked good ..... cetainly better than my first xtel poles.

Would I buy it over a 18 CLX @ £93 + the extras ? or would I buy the Phonix 15ft / 18ft reach  @ £110

well cracking pole to feel and wave about but at £17 more for a non carbon composite nope its a no brainer.

Just to clarify....The Phoenix 18 pro is the CLX equivalent in material (hybrid) this pole is £89.95+VAT

Poles are going really well, now available through a few distributors on the UK, take a look around the net. Plenty of customers out there using them now!



Sorry Mike I went to your website to get the info.

http://www.faceliftcleaning.com/glass-fibre-poles

No info on the pole you mention ?? .... please show link if Im missing it



Here are the links to buy

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php?option=com_aceshop&route=product/category&path=20_243

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_20_49_126

http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/phoenix-poles/

Sure Clean in Northern Ireland will also have all of them in stock.... but unlisted as of yet.
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Ian101 on November 19, 2012, 09:01:04 am
i went to the vanfest at Richy wilts unit and had a good hold of their cheapest glass fibre pole

Felt and looked good ..... cetainly better than my first xtel poles.

Would I buy it over a 18 CLX @ £93 + the extras ? or would I buy the Phonix 15ft / 18ft reach  @ £110

well cracking pole to feel and wave about but at £17 more for a non carbon composite nope its a no brainer.

Just to clarify....The Phoenix 18 pro is the CLX equivalent in material (hybrid) this pole is £89.95+VAT

Poles are going really well, now available through a few distributors on the UK, take a look around the net. Plenty of customers out there using them now!



Sorry Mike I went to your website to get the info.

http://www.faceliftcleaning.com/glass-fibre-poles

No info on the pole you mention ?? .... please show link if Im missing it



Here are the links to buy

http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/index.php?option=com_aceshop&route=product/category&path=20_243

http://www.polarbrite.co.uk/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=1_20_49_126

http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/phoenix-poles/

Sure Clean in Northern Ireland will also have all of them in stock.... but unlisted as of yet.

but their not on your own website  :-\ .... wtf ... why would you not have them on your own website ??

NOT having a go Mike but think you need to get your own company website addressed ASAP

As it was you were off my shopping list due to what i had seen on your website  ???
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on November 19, 2012, 09:44:41 am
So many people have told me about the site.... Its being boxed off as we speak.... when its finished it will be live, then everyone will be happy!

The most important thing for us is that our distributors support our relaunch as a company and the launch of a new product....

Happy Monday!
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Ian101 on November 19, 2012, 10:38:28 am
So many people have told me about the site.... Its being boxed off as we speak.... when its finished it will be live, then everyone will be happy!

The most important thing for us is that our distributors support our relaunch as a company and the launch of a new product....

Happy Monday!

Mondays are crap ... especially when people like me are moaning  ;D ;D

Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: paul marshall on November 19, 2012, 05:47:23 pm
i put a very favourable review on after using mine for a week , its been about five weeks now and i stand by every word excellent pole excellent service , im a very very very happy young man [ ok ok a happy man ] i will give an update after a couple more months for those who are interested  :D ;D :D ;D
Title: Re: Phoenix Review.
Post by: Scrimble on November 19, 2012, 06:14:08 pm
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The Facelift Phoenix X range of water fed poles are made from a 100% carbon fibre.  This makes the Phoenix X very light with excellent rigidity.

isnt the base section fibreglass?