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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Mark Slaney on November 12, 2012, 07:56:57 pm

Title: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Mark Slaney on November 12, 2012, 07:56:57 pm


http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/news/groupon-fights-life-daily-deals-060235541.html

  :) :)
 
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Craigp on November 12, 2012, 08:15:54 pm
Well then sent alot of small businesses to the wall.

Lets hope this fad of exploiting small businesses with this dumb model is over.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Simon Gerrard on November 12, 2012, 08:20:41 pm
Yeah, good riddance to them.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Allan Simmons on November 12, 2012, 08:39:55 pm
Yep, finally enough brown stuffs hitting their whurly thing.  Good riddance, it just made people think you could get anything for nothing.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Kev Loomes on November 12, 2012, 08:47:37 pm
Totally agree. It did 2 things:

1) Tell the public that everything can be had for next to nothing (and so breeds this mentality in to normal everyday behaviour).
2) Extract money from the pockets of hard working (sometimes vulnerable) individuals, with empty promises.

See ya Groupon

Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Adrian Marsh on November 12, 2012, 08:58:16 pm
As I've posted on other forums, I REALLY hate these vulture companies that feed off your money. If, at last, they have had their day then so much the better.

I can't get my head around some who use this type of "marketing" to build a customer base. It only attracts price shoppers, they very same customer we (mostly) don't want.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Paul Moss on November 12, 2012, 09:07:44 pm
I agree with the above
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: derek west on November 12, 2012, 10:13:03 pm
i know a few who swear by it.  ;D
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 12, 2012, 10:44:14 pm
Some advertisers see it as an easy way to get work if the advertiser is clever they can make it work but groupon made the rules to suit themselves setting some prices to make it work for them and not the advertiser.

This kind of advertising IMO has put the industry back just like the half price in your area cleaners did.

Shaun
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Phillip Mold on November 12, 2012, 10:58:49 pm
What can I say? I'm gutted. I missed out on the opportunity to build my business. :-[ :-[ :-[
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: robert meldrum on November 12, 2012, 11:07:21 pm
As previously posted............we have people charging as little as the Groupon deals via Gumtree and on the 'net. One has a fully wrapped van and boasts about their T/M which is what they mainly use.

I think their name is ............Perfectly Clean
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Allan Simmons on November 13, 2012, 08:32:49 am

This kind of advertising IMO has put the industry back just like the half price in your area cleaners did.

Shaun

Spot on!
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Paul Clapham on November 13, 2012, 09:41:07 am
..........shame if they do go , I'll miss all the golf , and horse riding deals !
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: JandS on November 13, 2012, 10:25:26 am
Some of the meal deals are good and the holiday
breaks too.
Probably works for them but not for trades people.
It has its place, after all we are all price shoppers.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Paul Clapham on November 13, 2012, 11:35:50 am
My wife and I are going on a hack next week which I purchased from Groupon , The stable sold over 800 hacks @ £18 each usual price £40, when Groupon take their cut + vat , the stable are going to be working at a loss, as there will be 2 leaders with us for 90 mins at min wage , its the first time they have done the deal don't think they will again .
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Buckland on November 13, 2012, 04:09:24 pm
The yahoo report is about the us company (shares gone from $20 a year ago to $2.76 now - ouch) but there is no reason to suppose its any different for them here - worse probably as our wild frontier of consumer law is slightly less wilder than the US

The report says:
"The top reasons cited were high commission rate and low rate of repeat customers gained through offering a promotion.
The survey also found that 32 percent of the merchants reported losing money on the promotions, and nearly 40 percent said the Groupon offer was less effective than other types of marketing.
"I've always maintained that this is a hype driven business built on an unsustainable business model both for the merchants and for Groupon," said Rakesh Agrawal, principal analyst at reDesign mobile, a San Francisco consulting firm.

Lets hope the public will forget the 'get something valuable for nothing business principle' as quickly as they took it up...
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Adrian Marsh on November 13, 2012, 05:38:34 pm
I have actually done several "after Groupon" cleans recently. As soon as the client has informed me they had "A Deal" done a few months ago and weren't happy with it, I always state that there's no way I'm going to be anywhere near the Groupon price. Strange but I haven't lost one yet. :D
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Neil Williams on November 14, 2012, 06:33:36 pm
Lets hope this fad of exploiting small businesses with this dumb model is over.

Doubtful looking at the profile history of the guy running Groupon.
Personally I couldn't give a hoot either way. Business owners who were stupid enough to be prepared to work for 25% or less of normal profit margins, or customers who think you can get something for nothing without there being reprocussions somewhere along the line.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: derek west on November 15, 2012, 08:51:06 am
not without a fight there not.

http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/manchester-special/Deluxe-Home-Brands/13055896?nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_320&a=2703

877 vax's sold. thats 877 jobs we aint competing for this xmas.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: AshWhite on November 15, 2012, 08:55:41 am
not without a fight there not.

http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/manchester-special/Deluxe-Home-Brands/13055896?nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_320&a=2703

877 vax's sold. thats 877 jobs we aint competing for this xmas.

I might even buy one for my 'maintenance' cleans  :P
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: derek west on November 15, 2012, 09:09:14 am
was gonna give billy a shout so he can attach it to his pheonix (in series or paralell) to increase his blower. ;D
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Kinver_Clean on November 15, 2012, 03:16:30 pm
WOW!!!   500 watts of power!!!!


Make sure you have plenty of de foamer when you get called to sort it out.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Allan Simmons on November 15, 2012, 03:32:59 pm
I wouldn't worry about the people that buy a Vax Derek, most of them would never pay to have a carpet cleaned anyway, or are using it for spot cleaning if they have pets/kids.  Those that would have paid but thought they might save a few quid will find out it's hard work for little result and then pay you anyway in future, so it justifies your higher price once they realise how hard work it is to do a proper job.  Just my thoughts  :)
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: john rees on November 15, 2012, 04:44:28 pm
500 watts of power! that will be the max allowed if europe gets its way!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/eu/7996383/Europe-to-cut-power-of-vacuum-cleaners-to-save-energy.html
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: derek west on November 16, 2012, 03:33:54 pm
well thats gotta be good news for us then.
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Griffus on November 16, 2012, 05:42:21 pm
not without a fight there not.

http://www.groupon.co.uk/deals/manchester-special/Deluxe-Home-Brands/13055896?nlp=&CID=UK_CRM_1_0_0_320&a=2703

877 vax's sold. thats 877 jobs we aint competing for this xmas.

If not Vax then Bissell, or Vanish or .................. well anything but pay someone. These aren't lost customers, they were never customers.

IMO  :)
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 16, 2012, 06:05:33 pm
Wait until someone in the marketing sector finds out about encap they'll just re invent a rotary and make millions.

Shaun
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Neil Williams on November 16, 2012, 06:13:17 pm
Wait until someone in the marketing sector finds out about encap they'll just re invent a rotary and make millions.

Shaun

Isn't it there already under the name 'Shake n Vac'
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Adrian Marsh on November 16, 2012, 06:16:46 pm
Wait until someone in the marketing sector finds out about encap they'll just re invent a rotary and make millions.

Shaun

Isn't it there already under the name 'Shake n Vac'


"Shake n Vac" is rubbish. "Vanish Power Foam" is far superior ;)
Title: Re: Groupon fight's for it's life
Post by: Shaun_Ashmore on November 16, 2012, 09:13:10 pm
No wet wonder foam is simular  ;)

Shaun