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Title: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: roundbuilder on November 12, 2012, 01:13:44 pm
Would ragher get 1 from somebody who knows the industry than a outsider charging over the odds.

Cheers
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 01:16:24 pm
I build AWESOME websites.  ;D ;D ;D

One I did recently: http://www.jdwindowcleaningservices.co.uk/

One I'm working on at the moment: http://nolanscleaning.co.uk/new/index.html

info@avondhucleaning.com  ;)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: S.W. Window Cleaning on November 12, 2012, 01:28:22 pm
I was looking at these guys,
http://www.studioarts-dtv.co.uk/
Anybody used them?
  Cheers,
     Steve
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: terrazzoman on November 12, 2012, 01:40:23 pm
or try BT they are doing some special deals on price
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on November 12, 2012, 01:40:36 pm
Yes there template site are good they also do free ones.
Iam on page 1 for google in 3 areas with no seo
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 01:46:37 pm
I was looking at these guys,
http://www.studioarts-dtv.co.uk/
Anybody used them?
  Cheers,
     Steve

For the price, its hard to beat studioarts -- as far as I remember they do basic sites from £99 upwards

On average my websites would be 3 times or more that price, but I do tink that the value for money is the same as you get a lot more,..
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: richywilts on November 12, 2012, 02:18:23 pm
I build AWESOME websites.  ;D ;D ;D

One I did recently: http://www.jdwindowcleaningservices.co.uk/

One I'm working on at the moment: http://nolanscleaning.co.uk/new/index.html

info@avondhucleaning.com  ;)

great site them nath nice work pal
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Carl@Cwc on November 12, 2012, 02:42:16 pm
I build AWESOME websites.  ;D ;D ;D

One I did recently: http://www.jdwindowcleaningservices.co.uk/

One I'm working on at the moment: http://nolanscleaning.co.uk/new/index.html

info@avondhucleaning.com  ;)

how much are they nath
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2012, 03:01:02 pm
nat does a good job and is easy to work with,


4years i had my site which he done and its pulled in endless amount of work,

cheers nat
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: roundbuilder on November 12, 2012, 03:04:38 pm
Lovely nath it will be then. Ill throw you over an email when i get home.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 03:26:29 pm
I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site - for window cleaners I'd give a discount , but for a proper fully featured responsive site (Responsive websites automatically re-shuffle their layout depending on the phone/tablet/laptop you're browsing them on for best viewing regardless of device) you'd still be looking at £375.

I do believe that 99% of ppl will recoup the extra expense very quickly from work gained through the site, but wouldn't say anything bad about any of the guys who are cheaper like studioarts - its still top quality considering the price you pay & the hours that go into building a site.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: g.brookes on November 12, 2012, 04:06:03 pm
funnily enough im having a new one built today.  by this chap - http://www.wordpresswebsitedesigner.co/ .  he is pretty great- he did regency cleanings site
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Seers on November 12, 2012, 04:07:19 pm
Just built myself a new site yesterday www.seerssupportservices.co.uk not quite finished yet. Got a bit bored with the old one.

It's quite good fun once you get into it and wordpress isn't that difficult to get on with.

Cheers,

Huw
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Craggs on November 12, 2012, 04:19:59 pm
i am not a computer expert but how do you get traffic to your website.... I guessing it putting website address on flyers... right?
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Granny on November 12, 2012, 04:46:01 pm
Just built myself a new site yesterday www.seerssupportservices.co.uk not quite finished yet. Got a bit bored with the old one.

It's quite good fun once you get into it and wordpress isn't that difficult to get on with.

Cheers,

Huw
Hi Seerclean
Looks good.
How do you work with wordpress?
I had a go but couldn't get on with it.
Do you have the server side WAMP I think it is called on your PC to run,  test and tweak etc?
Ta.
Granny
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Ian101 on November 12, 2012, 05:03:33 pm
I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site - for window cleaners I'd give a discount , but for a proper fully featured responsive site (Responsive websites automatically re-shuffle their layout depending on the phone/tablet/laptop you're browsing them on for best viewing regardless of device) you'd still be looking at £375.

I do believe that 99% of ppl will recoup the extra expense very quickly from work gained through the site, but wouldn't say anything bad about any of the guys who are cheaper like studioarts - its still top quality considering the price you pay & the hours that go into building a site.

do you have a waiting list .. if so how much lead time are you talking ? ... i will be needing a websire in new year

for those prices mentioned can I change content at will ?

Cheers
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nick Wareham on November 12, 2012, 05:51:15 pm
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I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site

That is not expensive, that is ridiculously cheap.

You should expect to pay about £3k for a decent website, and then extra for any revisions at a later date.  A friend of my dad's had their website done (not window cleaning) and it cost £6k, and it looked very slick.

You cannot get a top tontch website for less than £3k, but then it does depend on exactly what you want.  Any less than that and you don't get web designers, you get people who have learned a bit of web design and do their best for some pocket money.

Just like everything else, eg flyer design, logo design etc, you get what you pay for.  You have to pay good money if you want good design.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Paul H on November 12, 2012, 06:19:37 pm
I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site - for window cleaners I'd give a discount , but for a proper fully featured responsive site (Responsive websites automatically re-shuffle their layout depending on the phone/tablet/laptop you're browsing them on for best viewing regardless of device) you'd still be looking at £375.

I do believe that 99% of ppl will recoup the extra expense very quickly from work gained through the site, but wouldn't say anything bad about any of the guys who are cheaper like studioarts - its still top quality considering the price you pay & the hours that go into building a site.

Hi Nat.. is that with SEO .... keywording ... backlinks etc...??
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: mick hay on November 12, 2012, 06:25:47 pm
i had my 2 sites done by a fella who really knows his stuff. He also set up my adwords.

I havent put 1 leaflet out this year as ive enough work coming from my sites. What it costs me from google, im averaging 10 fold in takings!!!

If you want a site that really works, you need to to get a proper web designer/SEO to do it for you.

If you want his details just mail me mjhaywood@btinternet.com   

Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 12, 2012, 06:28:54 pm
I build AWESOME websites.  ;D ;D ;D

One I did recently: http://www.jdwindowcleaningservices.co.uk/

One I'm working on at the moment: http://nolanscleaning.co.uk/new/index.html

info@avondhucleaning.com  ;)


Still to build me one  ??? ???
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: martin clarke on November 12, 2012, 06:54:34 pm
I ended up building my own after webdesigner friend decided he couldn't be bothered with any changes to the original.
http://www.acleanwindow.co.uk
probably not the best site going but it has pulled in customers for me.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Approved on November 12, 2012, 06:59:39 pm
Gav get your money out and get Nat to do it, will be done in a week, you cant keep banking it, you have to spend it some time?
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 12, 2012, 07:40:10 pm
my site costa lotta.

Not happy with it really, needs loads of tweeking, but getting there sloooowwwwwwlllyyyyy

www.davidmorriswindowcleaning.co.uk
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: easy clean on November 12, 2012, 07:44:37 pm
Mick take a look at my website www.squeakyclean-uk.co.uk if you like it then I can give you the guys number, he's local, only in welling so you can sit down and go through it with him in person.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 07:53:39 pm

do you have a waiting list .. if so how much lead time are you talking ? ... i will be needing a websire in new year

for those prices mentioned can I change content at will ?

Cheers

At the moment I don't have a waiting list really,.. I've a couple of small projects on the go, but could easily handle a couple more.

If you want any content changing you're free to do so yourself at any time - however I don't use any content management systems like joomla or wordpress, so you'll have to have a basic knowledge of a web editing program like "Net Objects" or "Dreamweaver" - easy enough when you get the hang of it. Or you can just ask me to do it (Or any other web designer),.. I don't charge for small changes & if you want to make big changes I try to be reasonable with pricing.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 07:58:48 pm


Hi Nat.. is that with SEO .... keywording ... backlinks etc...??

Basic key wording & SEO yes - if you've got lots of local competition with good websites you might need to use an SEO specialist, but this isn't often needed.

I'm avoiding backlinks since Google started penalizing sites that use lots of low quality ones - Concentrating on good quality unique content is IMO the best SEO you can possibly get & the most future proof too.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 12, 2012, 07:59:58 pm

Still to build me one  ??? ???

Drop me an e-mail Gav & I'll get you sorted ASAP.  ;)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: thermoclean on November 12, 2012, 08:41:24 pm
Nat build my website and I'm very happy with it
Window cleaning Scotland.co.uk ;D
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2012, 08:48:10 pm
Gav get your money out and get Nat to do it, will be done in a week, you cant keep banking it, you have to spend it some time?
and i thought gav was using your site ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on November 12, 2012, 09:02:18 pm
Gav get your money out and get Nat to do it, will be done in a week, you cant keep banking it, you have to spend it some time?
and i thought gav was using your site ;D ;D ;D ;D


OUR site lol the big mans getting
Even more work now I'm the
Model on the site!!!
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Frankybadboy on November 12, 2012, 09:10:01 pm
Gav get your money out and get Nat to do it, will be done in a week, you cant keep banking it, you have to spend it some time?
and i thought gav was using your site ;D ;D ;D ;D


 I'm the
Model on the site!!!
better make that a wide screen picture then ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D fatboy
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: supernova77 on November 13, 2012, 12:39:08 am
I built my own site using Wordpress

www.iconicwindowcleaning.co.uk

I still need to add some more pictures to it though.

Andy
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 13, 2012, 08:23:39 am
I built my own site using Wordpress

www.iconicwindowcleaning.co.uk

I still need to add some more pictures to it though.

Andy

What hosting are you using? Your site is being displayed in a frame, which means that very little of the info on each page is visible to Google,.. and there's no point having a great looking website if no one can find it! Switching hosting may fix this (I assume you're using web forwarding at the moment) and give you better google ranking.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: supernova77 on November 13, 2012, 08:56:29 am
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What hosting are you using? Your site is being displayed in a frame, which means that very little of the info on each page is visible to Google,.. and there's no point having a great looking website if no one can find it! Switching hosting may fix this (I assume you're using web forwarding at the moment) and give you better google ranking.

Hi Nathanael,

Thanks for the info... I use 1and1 Internet for hosting at the moment...

I have heard that Wordpress can be a pain when it comes to SEO etc...

I threw it together quite quickly and haven't spent any more time on it... But I need to.

Andy  ;)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 13, 2012, 09:05:52 am
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What hosting are you using? Your site is being displayed in a frame, which means that very little of the info on each page is visible to Google,.. and there's no point having a great looking website if no one can find it! Switching hosting may fix this (I assume you're using web forwarding at the moment) and give you better google ranking.

Hi Nathanael,

Thanks for the info... I use 1and1 Internet for hosting at the moment...

I have heard that Wordpress can be a pain when it comes to SEO etc...

I threw it together quite quickly and haven't spent any more time on it... But I need to.

Andy  ;)

Its not really the SEO that is the issue (Yet),.. just the complete lack of anything to SEO!

If you view the webpage source you'll see what Google see's - normally its a couple of hundred lines of code, but on your site only about 15 lines are visible, all the wordpress code is hidden in an iframe pointing to your .com domain.

Your .com will be seen by Google - your .co.uk will be near invisible with that kind of web forwarding.  ;)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Tom Kelly on November 13, 2012, 09:33:01 am
I'm not sure if it's just me, but http://www.seerssupportservices.co.uk/ (http://www.seerssupportservices.co.uk/) takes SO LONG to load!?
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Seers on November 13, 2012, 07:44:16 pm
Hi Tom,

Just tested it and it comes back at between 0.86 - 1.24 seconds.

Maybe your connection is slow? And had three cherry picker hires booked from it today so somebody is finding it!

Cheers,

Huw
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 13, 2012, 08:50:07 pm
Yep - fairly fast loading for me too & my internet is dismally slow.  ;D
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: king marko on November 13, 2012, 09:31:11 pm
Sorry to hijack the thread ;)

Bit naive when it comes to websites - apart from the initial set up costs, are there any ongoing monthly/yearly fees?

Cheers
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 13, 2012, 09:52:36 pm
Sorry to hijack the thread ;)

Bit naive when it comes to websites - apart from the initial set up costs, are there any ongoing monthly/yearly fees?

Cheers

Just the domain name cost (Less than £10 a year normally) and hosting (£2.95 +vat a month from letshost.co.uk),... thats it. :)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: king marko on November 13, 2012, 09:56:56 pm
Thanks for that Nat it's an eye opener for someone like me that hasn't any experience in websites - been thinking about one for a while & ill keep you mind after I've got my M.O.T out the way in Jan  :)
Cheers
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Window Washers on November 15, 2012, 06:34:15 pm
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I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site

That is not expensive, that is ridiculously cheap.

You should expect to pay about £3k for a decent website, and then extra for any revisions at a later date.  A friend of my dad's had their website done (not window cleaning) and it cost £6k, and it looked very slick.

You cannot get a top tontch website for less than £3k, but then it does depend on exactly what you want.  Any less than that and you don't get web designers, you get people who have learned a bit of web design and do their best for some pocket money.

Just like everything else, eg flyer design, logo design etc, you get what you pay for.  You have to pay good money if you want good design.
That is so wrong mate it is untrue, you can get a very good website for a lot less than 3k we are not in the ninetys anymore when they were expensive.
a website is not just about the look, it is about the message and the marketing to get people to see the message the rest is secondary.

Backlinking can still work if you know what your doing (not a dig at anyone), Nat is spot on about low quality links and natural content has always been king always will be why google is in business it there business model to give the people seraching what they are looking for, simple business model.
Social Media without question is where the marketing should be done it is all about traffic and conversions back to your site.

This is well exciting to talk about but I really better shoot
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: king marko on November 15, 2012, 07:52:58 pm
Quote
I'll be honest & tell you I'm expensive!

Normally I'd charge £495 upwards for a site

That is not expensive, that is ridiculously cheap.

You should expect to pay about £3k for a decent website, and then extra for any revisions at a later date.  A friend of my dad's had their website done (not window cleaning) and it cost £6k, and it looked very slick.

You cannot get a top tontch website for less than £3k, but then it does depend on exactly what you want.  Any less than that and you don't get web designers, you get people who have learned a bit of web design and do their best for some pocket money.

Just like everything else, eg flyer design, logo design etc, you get what you pay for.  You have to pay good money if you want good design.
That is so wrong mate it is untrue, you can get a very good website for a lot less than 3k we are not in the ninetys anymore when they were expensive.
a website is not just about the look, it is about the message and the marketing to get people to see the message the rest is secondary.

Backlinking can still work if you know what your doing (not a dig at anyone), Nat is spot on about low quality links and natural content has always been king always will be why google is in business it there business model to give the people seraching what they are looking for, simple business model.
Social Media without question is where the marketing should be done it is all about traffic and conversions back to your site.

This is well exciting to talk about but I really better shoot
Ye know too much  ;D ;D
Sounds like you the bloke to speak to when it comes to the tech stuff methinks  :)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 15, 2012, 08:34:30 pm
Ian is spot on about social media - really useful for SEO if used right!

I've been working on re-vamping my own website this week, because I'm planning on moving house soon & web design will me my main income until the new round is established,.. this one just went live today (Let me know if you spot any spelling mistakes - the proof reader didn't get back to me yet!) http://avondhu-internet.com/index.html
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: king marko on November 15, 2012, 09:20:01 pm
Ian is spot on about social media - really useful for SEO if used right!

I've been working on re-vamping my own website this week, because I'm planning on moving house soon & web design will me my main income until the new round is established,.. this one just went live today (Let me know if you spot any spelling mistakes - the proof reader didn't get back to me yet!) http://avondhu-internet.com/index.html

On the support page - support & assistance guaranteed bit - 'we're always on HAD to answer your aftersales questions'
Sorry! you did ask  ;D

Nice site tho and well presented, easy to understand and perfect for a novice to the world of websites like me

Cheers  :)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 15, 2012, 10:28:20 pm
Ian is spot on about social media - really useful for SEO if used right!

I've been working on re-vamping my own website this week, because I'm planning on moving house soon & web design will me my main income until the new round is established,.. this one just went live today (Let me know if you spot any spelling mistakes - the proof reader didn't get back to me yet!) http://avondhu-internet.com/index.html

On the support page - support & assistance guaranteed bit - 'we're always on HAD to answer your aftersales questions'
Sorry! you did ask  ;D

Nice site tho and well presented, easy to understand and perfect for a novice to the world of websites like me

Cheers  :)

Cheers! Its things like that which spell checkers don't pick up, and why I always use a proof reader,.. cause I'm simply blind to it myself!
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Window Washers on November 15, 2012, 11:43:49 pm
Ian is spot on about social media - really useful for SEO if used right!

I've been working on re-vamping my own website this week, because I'm planning on moving house soon & web design will me my main income until the new round is established,.. this one just went live today (Let me know if you spot any spelling mistakes - the proof reader didn't get back to me yet!) http://avondhu-internet.com/index.html
Nat would like to speak to you about this as in the new year I am doing similar and maybe it could benefit us both ;)
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 16, 2012, 08:09:48 am
Sounds good Ian,.. drop me an e-mail info@avondhucleaning.com whenever you're ready.  ;D
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 17, 2012, 07:16:55 pm
nat does our web sites and he does a great job and belive me we not the easyest people to work with lol
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Dani J on November 17, 2012, 08:20:07 pm
my site costa lotta.

Not happy with it really, needs loads of tweeking, but getting there sloooowwwwwwlllyyyyy

www.davidmorriswindowcleaning.co.uk

Dave you have got too many writing on there, it confuse people.
Title: Re: Who can build me a half decent website
Post by: Nathanael Jones on November 17, 2012, 10:35:43 pm
my site costa lotta.

Not happy with it really, needs loads of tweeking, but getting there sloooowwwwwwlllyyyyy

www.davidmorriswindowcleaning.co.uk

Dave you have got too many writing on there, it confuse people.

Its a fine line - too much text will put viewers off,.. too little & Google might miss the point & not rank you in the right searches.

If you need a lot of text, put it below the fold - have everything that is instantly visible on page load simple & to the point.  ;)