Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wightsurf on November 11, 2012, 08:47:55 pm
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I have started this afresh so as to get all your attention.
Would any of you be interested in the development of your own Android app ?
I have already posted the job to see what sort of price we would be looking at.
By owning the rights to it we could upgrade as we see fit.
We need to start thinking of what we would want as standard and go from there.
So yes im interested or no thanks ,please.
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Would it be worth placing an ad here to see what quotes we can get?
http://www.guru.com/emp/search.aspx?keyword=#&&page=1&sort=BudgetAscending&cid=805
I've used Guru.com successfully before,...
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Yes Nath, can you do that one.We will have 2 going then,see what we can come up with.
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Lets get a detailed list of features first so we can get an accurate quote & no messing around.
Also - ALWAYS choose an english speaking Guru,.. I've had issues before simply down to the language barrier!
So - what features are on your "must have" list?
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Back up ,is a must
txt, would be good
debt list
payment methods with option of total payment by type between selected dates
ie.. 10/04/2010 to 10/05/2010 -bacs = £ total x amount
on the fly add job/amend job
custy detail click on phone number to dial ,would be good
Vat box,maybe
add my own ref Number to each custy,like on WCP
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When you say app do you mean online like a work or on an android phone / tablet?
My perfect software would run on an android tablet, have features from wcp and George with the backup online option like George has.
If what your thinking about is what I'm after then I would happily get involved with this. I have used George and wcp for my round software
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Not a online app like aworka.(cloud)
This would be on your own tablet or phone,
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Count me in then Wrightsurf ;D ... ive been moaning about getting an android version of george for a while now on here lol
My soon to be ex wife is a web designer and knows some android developers. She said she can ask about if anyone is interested ?
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Interested
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Yep I am interested.
Might be worth funding on kick starter.
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Click customers postcode to start satnav app.
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Im interested to.
Emailing customers direct from program would be great as i use wcp at mo and its a faff at end of day saving invoices then emailing them all out individually. One click email to customer or option for auto email for certain customers.
I like the idea of having separate accounts to say if you had employees where you could send out worksheets in morning to individual phone, so the app would need to work on a number of phones, iphone etc.
Texting idea would be good from phone, dont see why we should have to pay for a text bundle tho as i can text for free thru my phone, so if i could have a one click option on program to text a standard message ie "We are cleaning windows tomorrow please leave gate open, thanks"
I really like WCP and kinda begrudge leaving it but i think we need to move on now its not getting developed as nat said. I also have had troubles getting into it when had new comp and been waiting a few days. That said i cannot fault their service, always been great with me and has really helped my business over the last few years!
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count me in
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I would be interested what do this the cost would be ? any idea .Anyone.
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So everyone on CIU will agree on a spec? ;D
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Would also need to have export from WCP or george cause no way am i going to input one by one again!
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Would also need to have export from WCP or george cause no way am i going to input one by one again!
+1
And import from WCP, Roundtracker, Awoka etc etc.
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You know what, WCP does exactly everything i need bar being on my phone, surely WCP boys could bring it out on android? Id be willing to pay monthly subscription to that.
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I have had a couple of job replies.I took some details from wcp that i use and use this as a basic to work from.
The quotes are $1100. and the second is $4300
The second has a list of jobs on show as long as my are.
This is just giving us a idea of cost.
@ Nath hows your list coming on ?
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I have had a couple of job replies.I took some details from wcp that i use and use this as a basic to work from.
The quotes are $1100. and the second is $4300
The second has a list of jobs on show as long as my are.
This is just giving us a idea of cost.
@ Nath hows your list coming on ?
Sorry mate - been mad busy & simply haven't had time to look at it.
Think I'm going to have to let you go it alone on this one - you seem to have a perfect grasp on it anyway.
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I'd be happy with everything George has but so i could have on android tablet.
The more you add to it, the more it will cost.
I text customers and it takes 30 seconds to search the names on my phone and paste the text i have in my clipboard.
Sat nav option is a bit ott unless you have multiple staff doing different routes every day rather than a normal routes each clean.
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To import details ,we have to export from our current OS.
With WCP this is not possible,although Aworka has manged most of the export details,this is a know how subjrct and i dont know how ;D
So how would this be done ?
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whats the plan for the software ?
You looking for investors or will you be putting the money up and selling on wrightsurf ?
Interested either way ;)
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Has to be invetors.I was thinking get all who are interested then see what the cost is between those of us who would like this software.Then if we are all still happy to carry on we can come to a agreement on the future of this.
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indiegogo.com is a good place for a crowd funding project like this,....
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Your a natural leader Nath ,you should be in charge ;D
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Drop me an email wrightsurf (is in my profile)
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Your a natural leader Nath ,you should be in charge ;D
LOL,.. thats almost exactly the opposite of what my wife tells me every day,.. :'( :'( :o
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Drop me an email w r ightsurf (is in my profile)
Email sent from wightsurf,notice theres no R
Nath Does she wear the trousers ;D
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A bit of a bump ;D
Still in talks at the mo,but they are looking at import options from WCP or George.
Is it a cvs file ? can someone let me know if this is right.
There quote is £2500. Im working on this ;D
Any input or help would be good ...Nath ;D
Another idea was to build this in stages.This might be a way to get the cost down with upgrades as we go .As i have said input please.
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A bit of a bump ;D
Still in talks at the mo,but they are looking at import options from WCP or George.
Is it a cvs file ? can someone let me know if this is right.
There quote is £2500. Im working on this ;D
Any input or help would be good ...Nath ;D
Another idea was to build this in stages.This might be a way to get the cost down with upgrades as we go .As i have said input please.
you can't export from wcp the designer was paranoid, you fancy meeting up for a chat about moving this forward ?
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Ian
Im sure awarka have managed to move some of the info over.
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Ian
Im sure awarka have managed to move some of the info over.
some of it is not good enough mate I have hundreds of people using online payments with reference numbers aworka doesn't do this but more so you can't export it I spoke with the guy for aworka about this PDF does not give anywhere near enough details sadly :(
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Do you have any ideas too take this forward ??
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So those that are for real on wanting a Andriod app please let me know what is the min spec of the App you would want to start with .
Txt message was mentioned in the price.
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Is it worth talking with the fella that's developed George?
I'm using a cheap netbook that I've dedicated to the task of running George. I backup every night to my main system so I constantly have 3 copies of my data.
I would definitely be willing to get involved / chip in (within reason) for an Android App. I would need it to be fully functional without an internet connection though.
- 1. I work in the sticks with no signal a lot
- 2. I have trust issues with sharing all my customer data with anyone over the internet
Duncan
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Do you have any ideas too take this forward ??
as I said im down in a few weeks lets meet up, I would be wary of a £550 quote seems very cheap to me.
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I have had 3 quotes so far.2 @ this sort of price and 1 at 2500
This is all done through a third party of which you get to look and try before you pay for the work done.Meet up if time allows Ian let me know when your down.
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Wright surf.... I'd be happy with the equivalent of George that I can have on an android tablet. Also a password protection feature would be good too
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Does George have the same features as WCP ?
And can someone confirm the file type you use as a back up please cvs file ??
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Does George have the same features as WCP ?
And can someone confirm the file type you use as a back up please cvs file ??
wcp will not let you back all the data like George your correct in Csv file
Wcp use can save PDF and Csv but limited data it would need to be cracked on the owner allowing access to the data
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Thanks Ian
I think users who use wcp might have to start from scratch again (this includes me,but will find out ) .
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Thanks Ian
I think users who use wcp might have to start from scratch again (this includes me,but will find out ) .
add reference numbers to the list of things to add they must be changable too ;)
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Could it include a method of creating a mailing list?
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Could it include a method of creating a mailing list?
Can you explain a little more please.
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To enable mail shots, exporting to excel or msword. Either into a letter for window envelopes or labels.
I was thinking for bulk mailing to inform customers of new services or Christmas cards.
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ok i see what you mean.
I will add it to the list and see what they come up with.
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I'd have thought it would be a relatively minor tweak, just like raising a work list omitting the other info apart from customer names and addresses or tinker with the 'print invoice' operation.
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Is it worth talking with the fella that's developed George?
I'm using a cheap netbook that I've dedicated to the task of running George. I backup every night to my main system so I constantly have 3 copies of my data.
I would definitely be willing to get involved / chip in (within reason) for an Android App. I would need it to be fully functional without an internet connection though.
- 1. I work in the sticks with no signal a lot
- 2. I have trust issues with sharing all my customer data with anyone over the internet
Duncan
Im the same ,thats why i started this .
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Update
I'm having a chat with the developer on Saturday eve.
So those that are very interested please come forward with
Questions .
Now let's talk money ;D
This is hopefully going to start taking shape from next week.
If you are interested in investment or only purchase please say which.
I need ideas of numbers please.
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Any chance of setting up a Skype conference call so that anyone interested could be involved? Perhaps listen to the discussion live? It only requires a desk mic.
Do you/we already know; how we want the software to behave, What we want the UI to look like?
Bespoke software development is very competitive market but I would have thought talking to an existing developer, like Paul Sanders, about the possibility to adapt existing software to the Android platform would be a logical first step. Maybe try to involve him in a discussion about it on these forums so more can have an input. He charges £50 for GEORGE for life! Maybe he's already doing something?
Duncan
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Investment and Purchase - depends on costs of course
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invest
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Make sure that you OWN all rights and it is YOUR 'intellectual property'.
Good luck.
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Andy
Yes that is all in hand. Part of the third party protection.
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only thing that is worrying over this is what if u lose your phone with all the details customers and everything in?
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Password and backup
Just like if i was to lose my pda ,I have a lot of backups.
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just finished sorting out isues with the developer and its looking like CSV import isnot a issue.He will build in a function to go through it and add to the app
looking at about 3 weeks before bug test so on.
We have agreed to build the main app first on given price then do upgrades
sending work sheets to employees can be done on a upgrade
txt was/is part of this build
I now need layouts of screens leeding to worksheets etc...
anyone wish to help
Bluefrog
Ian do you still wish to entre into some agreement on this and how?
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I would be happy to bug test.
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just finished sorting out isues with the developer and its looking like CSV import isnot a issue.He will build in a function to go through it and add to the app
looking at about 3 weeks before bug test so on.
We have agreed to build the main app first on given price then do upgrades
sending work sheets to employees can be done on a upgrade
txt was/is part of this build
I now need layouts of screens leeding to worksheets etc...
anyone wish to help
Bluefrog
Ian do you still wish to entre into some agreement on this and how?
please call me tomorrow and I will speak to you, I don't like discussing intimate business details/deals and money on here, I will invest no problem.
Anytime after 10am or text me your number I will call you just give me a time
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email me your number,ill phone you latter in the day .As im feeding my Bees about midday.
wightsurf@hotmail.com
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email me your number,ill phone you latter in the day .As im feeding my Bees about midday.
wightsurf@hotmail.com
sent ;)
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If I had some spare cash if like to support this's hats the minimum investment chaps?
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If I had some spare cash if like to support this's hats the minimum investment chaps?
dude invest when it's done ;)
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This is a great idea though. One of the most common ciu subjects. A proper built for purpose app will go down a storm.
Can it be linked to the iZettle app?