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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: geefree on November 09, 2012, 09:28:47 pm

Title: Dont trust canvassers.
Post by: geefree on November 09, 2012, 09:28:47 pm
They all promise the earth and deliver either poop or nothing....

Dont trust anyone on here who says they are fantastic.

I think it should be known on here , and canvassers who try there con tricks, luck on here should not be allowed to advertise their services.

Or should be made to prove they are legitimate businesses before conning window cleaners .... on a window cleaning forum!

Gary.
Title: Re: Dont trust canvassers.
Post by: spudd on November 09, 2012, 09:31:26 pm
Here here  :)
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Post by: robertphil on November 09, 2012, 09:33:30 pm
who is it?
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Post by: Paul T on November 09, 2012, 09:34:21 pm
Which Canvasser are you talking about
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Post by: petski2 on November 09, 2012, 09:34:28 pm
Whats happened Gaz??
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Post by: Frankybadboy on November 09, 2012, 09:40:42 pm
do none of you ever learn ??? ??? ??? ???
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Post by: Blue Frog Systems on November 09, 2012, 10:06:15 pm
Bet it begins with a G
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Post by: wpclean on November 09, 2012, 10:14:59 pm
Name and shame .... so no one on here gets burned !
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Post by: gary999 on November 09, 2012, 10:15:46 pm
Bet it begins with a G

G...G...G nope aint got a clue >:( :D
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Post by: geefree on November 09, 2012, 10:44:38 pm
I know,

I wont name anyone !.... and that way , hopefully none will get used.

Because they are all the same.

I would like to say , no disrespect to any legit ones out there, but i wont... cause they aint.
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Post by: king marko on November 10, 2012, 07:54:15 am
I know,

I wont name anyone !.... and that way , hopefully none will get used.

Because they are all the same.

I would like to say , no disrespect to any legit ones out there, but i wont... cause they aint.
Think I can guess who you are on about mate - but think you should 'name & shame'
That way they definitely won't get used  ;D
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Post by: Richard iSparkle on November 10, 2012, 08:07:52 am
I know,

I wont name anyone !.... and that way , hopefully none will get used.

Because they are all the same.

I would like to say , no disrespect to any legit ones out there, but i wont... cause they aint.

They are not all the same though are they,

I've had some good and some awful (really terrible & dishonest), and some inbetween that start good and end up awful!

If you have had a bad experience of someone who advertises on this forum best to let us know who it is
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Post by: roundbuilder on November 10, 2012, 09:40:51 am
 You talk so much poope sometimes, i have built everything up i have today by using canvassers and have 1 of the best, biggest and compact customer bases in my area for which you can only ever get through persistant canvassing by using multiple canvassers, if i bought what i have today id have to find over 100k but the cost todo so with canvassers who replace dropouts has been not even 10k.
you are so wrong unless you can back up your thread with some solid proof that using canvassers is a bad idea???.
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Post by: prestigeclean on November 10, 2012, 09:45:50 am
i have a very good canvasser who i,ve been using for 4 years , he also works for other cleaners on here so they are not all bad , if you want to build your business they are still the best way to do it in my opinion regards alan
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Post by: roundbuilder on November 10, 2012, 09:54:34 am
i have a very good canvasser who i,ve been using for 4 years , he also works for other cleaners on here so they are not all bad , if you want to build your business they are still the best way to do it in my opinion regards alan



Fact alan.
its the windowcleaners that havnt the minerals or the savvy to use the canvassers to there advantage working for them instead of having canvassers calling the shots and dictating there terms and conditions.
I wouldnt in a million years pay x2 to a canvasser or have 1 tell me there rules. Its my way or the highway and has proven to work like magic for me as j am guessing you too alan using him for 4 years.
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Post by: Mist A Bit on November 10, 2012, 10:01:58 am
i tried to get a canvasser begining with G , never did any work for me as came up with many excuses mostly related to his phone not working. glad he never did now. want a job doing properly do it yourself
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Post by: spudd on November 10, 2012, 12:49:18 pm
i have a very good canvasser who i,ve been using for 4 years , he also works for other cleaners on here so they are not all bad , if you want to build your business they are still the best way to do it in my opinion regards alan



Fact alan.
its the windowcleaners that havnt the minerals or the savvy to use the canvassers to there advantage working for them instead of having canvassers calling the shots and dictating there terms and conditions.
I wouldnt in a million years pay x2 to a canvasser or have 1 tell me there rules. Its my way or the highway and has proven to work like magic for me as j am guessing you too alan using him for 4 years.

Mike don't suppose you could drop me an email at grant@clean-and-bright.co.uk would mind picking your brain with a few question if you've got a minute..
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Post by: Ian101 on November 10, 2012, 12:58:29 pm
All this initial only nonsense why dont u just say who it is  ???
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Post by: DB Cleaning Services on November 10, 2012, 01:01:31 pm
Eco think I had the same g your on about,lives round your way,paid him £50 petrol money excuses,excuses,never got 1 job of him rip off merchant  >:(
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Post by: oasisdweeb on November 10, 2012, 01:20:49 pm
surely if hes poop he needs nameing to save us guys who are looking for a canvasser time and money.also unfair on gen canvasser trying to earn a living
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Post by: Mist A Bit on November 10, 2012, 01:23:00 pm
Eco think I had the same g your on about,lives round your way,paid him £50 petrol money excuses,excuses,never got 1 job of him rip off merchant  >:(
yes he does live near by and i think quite a few people know who were talking about.
yes its GEORGE
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Post by: geefree on November 10, 2012, 01:55:29 pm
You talk so much poope sometimes, i have built everything up i have today by using canvassers and have 1 of the best, biggest and compact customer bases in my area for which you can only ever get through persistant canvassing by using multiple canvassers, if i bought what i have today id have to find over 100k but the cost todo so with canvassers who replace dropouts has been not even 10k.
you are so wrong unless you can back up your thread with some solid proof that using canvassers is a bad idea???.  

lol me ???????
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 11, 2012, 04:41:43 pm
wish i knew who you were talking about as i need a canvaser and i now dont trust none of them  :'( i really want to start useing a one .... its great being a newbe on here  :-X
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Post by: concept on November 11, 2012, 05:05:40 pm
wish i knew who you were talking about as i need a canvaser and i now dont trust none of them  :'( i really want to start useing a one .... its great being a newbe on here  :-X

Noddy, the guy in question has ripped many people off on here, despite warnings, he wouldn't operate as far down as you, so you're ok.

How's it all settling down?
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Post by: Susan Dean (1stclean) on November 11, 2012, 05:27:29 pm
wish i knew who you were talking about as i need a canvaser and i now dont trust none of them  :'( i really want to start useing a one .... its great being a newbe on here  :-X

Noddy, the guy in question has ripped many people off on here, despite warnings, he wouldn't operate as far down as you, so you're ok.

How's it all settling down?

hes fine thanks just need to sort web site out and get a canvaser sorted , also hes got me trying to find a new systerm not good when you see what being wrote on here about the people that make them lol
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Post by: concept on November 11, 2012, 05:47:43 pm
Don't worry about what was written, that's someone being a little bitter.

He needs to spend less time in the gym, more time knocking doors...I do neither, so I can't talk!
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Post by: Crystal-clear on November 11, 2012, 06:02:51 pm
the basic problem is kinda as follows.

Canvasser knocks door ,customer is over the moon that someone is coming over to clean windows for £20 they havnt been done in 3 years canvasser says its a monthly thing customer nods head but doesnt care all customer wants is that first clean window cleaner pays canvasser £40 works and gets half his money back customer then says ill call you window cleaner then says i thought it was regular customer says nah i thought i wanted it regular but this will do us for a year

canvasser then gets stick because window cleaner says customer canceled, canvasser then calls customer and the customer will say anything to get out of it for example not happy with work even thou windows were black and not cleaned in 3 years, canvasser then blames window cleaner, window cleaner then blames canvasser and it becomes a vicious circle,

but who is the person that has pretty much no blame?

THE CUSTOMER,

9X out of ten its the customer who is at fualt here think about it somone knocks on your door offering to clean your front for £8 why on earth would you say no? all this regular talk means nothing ,

2 ways around this problem

1, use some kind of contract canvasser will then maybe only get 3 cleans a day working all day

2, work on large volume of customers on a large numbers game
the average i use is 60% stay for 2nd clean 30% quite long term (if you get more then even better)
you have to also make sure you are in profit after the first clean not saying you should pay peanuts to canvasser otherwise he will not work
but needs to be a payment in which you are up after first clean or close if down only by 25% tops and what ever you pay make sure
you can afford to loose it cos guess what come 2nd clean you could loose entire streets.


i personally prefer option 2 its a painful process but walking around with say a 6 clean contract just wont work.
Title: Re: Dont trust canvassers.
Post by: geefree on November 13, 2012, 05:45:18 pm
Its a warning to people who would want to use canvassers.   check them out , get them recommended by people on here if you must use them....

and mick kent... i aint very wrong at all, ... nor do i talk poop.... and i ain t naming names to satisfy you...

i built my very large customer base , alone... canvassing and leaflet dropping.

and decided to use canvassers to build a seperate area in another town.... as i needed it doing quickly, i used 3 different  canvassers, all were useless, getting useless or non existing calls.... one used buses, could not drive.... and wanted dropping off here there and everywhere,..... and even home.


I wont name names.... as its my right either way.

Check them out thoroughly... use them if you must

I wont... ever again,

just a warning to the lads on here.