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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: wpclean on November 04, 2012, 12:46:04 pm
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Posted on 02/11/12
Region: Scotland
Location: North & South Lanarkshire
Type: Domestic
Monthly Avg Value : £12,000
Established For: 6 years
Comments: Well established quality window cleaning round, all done with traditional ladder method, in the North & South Lanarkshire areas. All customers conditioned to all weather cleaning, during all year round. Good payers: all usually pay cash on the day. Plenty of scope to build the round more, as new customers join every week. Selling round to concentrate on a business abroad. Plenty of extra work including gutters, pvc cleaning and power washing etc. Weekly average turnover is £2,400. Willing to split round up to sell as follows: North Lanarkshire Wishaw/Newmains area £25,000. South Lanarkshire Carluke/Law village areas £30,000. South Lanarkshire Lanark area £4,000. The complete round is sold at a discounted price of £45,000. No timewasters please, as we are all very busy and I am not interested in leasing the rounds out or paying for the business in instalments. People looking for a serious business oportunity only. Please contact by email first.
Asking Price : £45,000
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If its genuine, yes without question
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If its genuine, yes without question
same for me
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Thats a steal if it is so real. You will need extra staff! How many staff does the owner have working on that monthly average? Also you will have to go VAT registered. Serious consideration needed on that one!
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If it says what it says on the tin...without doubt i would have it at that price.YES
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I looked at this yesterday - id definately look into buying - if its genuine, what a steal - you'd make your money back in less than 6 mths
Get a couple of a lads working it, pay them a decent wage, sit back and retire ;D
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without a doubt 12k monthly for 45K - bargain !
Darran
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If it was nearer me I would have a look,however,12k a month trad work in Scotland might not be quite as easy as some of you guys down south might think,you are prob looking at a wage bill of around 4K (if you are adding this to an existing business) to complete the work plus the other expenses.
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If it was nearer me I would have a look,however,12k a month trad work in Scotland might not be quite as easy as some of you guys down south might think,you are prob looking at a wage bill of around 4K (if you are adding this to an existing business) to complete the work plus the other expenses.
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how much would you be planning on paying ph then ????
Darran
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If it was nearer me I would have a look,however,12k a month trad work in Scotland might not be quite as easy as some of you guys down south might think,you are prob looking at a wage bill of around 4K (if you are adding this to an existing business) to complete the work plus the other expenses.
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how much would you be planning on paying ph then ????
Darran
approx 600 man hours @£7 per hour
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so you would need 4 men + yourself to cover that amount - interesting
Darran
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Id be curious to know how many men does it take to complete 2400 a week, day in day out TRAD?? Specially with the lovly Scottish weather..
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so you would need 4 men + yourself to cover that amount - interesting
Darran
No it would be 4 men to cover 12K of work,I would need 4 men to do the work as I am already full up,if you are able to work on it yourself obviously this would bring the wage bill down, which is why I mentioned adding 12K of work on to an existing business
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Id be curious to know how many men does it take to complete 2400 a week, day in day out TRAD?? Specially with the lovly Scottish weather..
4 men 4 days, 7 hour days
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KS - no problem just gauging your breakdown of wages etc.. and of course you lose another 20% to vat
4 men ( all employed ) would seem to be somewhere in the right ball park - i'd prob include myself initially just
as a meet and greet of the new customer base - do you think the round comes with staff ?
Darran
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The weather is not a issue either as it states all weather cleaning.
So yes i would go for that ,i would also start in small areas moving to wfp.
Min living wage is 7.20 ;D
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Lol
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KS - no problem just gauging your breakdown of wages etc.. and of course you lose another 20% to vat
4 men ( all employed ) would seem to be somewhere in the right ball park - i'd prob include myself initially just
as a meet and greet of the new customer base - do you think the round comes with staff ?
Darran
Yes he would probably have some workers who would want to continue to work with the new owner.The round would still be a good earner for someone but based on the work up here it would not generate the same profit as down south,so not as much of a bargain as some might think.I pay 3 x the clean for trad and 4 x the clean for WFP
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Would de slightly more than £10 400 per month Vin but you're right,certainly not £12 000 ;)
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who has 45k to put upfront its window cleaning not microsoft ltd and no its not worth it cause the work isnt gureenteed! check books probly worth between 18-25k!
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who has 45k to put upfront its window cleaning not microsoft ltd and no its not worth it cause the work isnt gureenteed! check books probly worth between 18-25k!
Sorry but that doesn't make sense ::)
45k is not a lot of money for the work been offered, most people
with a well run legit business could raise that sum of money.
The work is as garanteed as any other window cleaning business
for sale just make sure you meet the majority of custy's.
How do you guess it's worth 18-25k?
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Microsoft may be struggling a bit lately but I think they are still worth a bit more than a four man wc business.
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I had a shock when my accountants told me what they thought my business was worth.
I nearly fell off my chair
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They use a formula- turnover minus expenses x whatever. Anyone looking to buy a round should get the figures and let their accountant have a look. Could save them from an expensive mistake.
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I had a shock when my accountants told me what they thought my business was worth.
I nearly fell off my chair
was it only 1p dave iam not surpised. ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
found them pictures yet ??? ??? ???
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I didnt believe him, I reckon 1/4 of what he said
Which pics ? facebook ?
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I didnt believe him, I reckon 1/4 of what he said
Which pics ? facebook ?
olympics ones you old cornish fart :P :P ;D ;D ;D
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who has 45k to put upfront its window cleaning not microsoft ltd and no its not worth it cause the work isnt gureenteed! check books probly worth between 18-25k!
im with you, who's got a spare 45k lying around! :o
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Would de slightly more than £10 400 per month Vin but you're right,certainly not £12 000 ;)
In what way?
£2,400 * 52 = £124,800.
£124,800 / 12 = £10,400.
QED.
Vin
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Would de slightly more than £10 400 per month Vin but you're right,certainly not £12 000 ;)
In what way?
£2,400 * 52 = £124,800.
£124,800 / 12 = £10,400.
QED.
Vin
4 weekly clean will bring in more, it equates to 13 cleans a year, but the maths still don't add up, on the sellers part
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You would get your original purchase price plus increased value when you sold it.
What it takes now is somewhat irrelevent to what could be earned if you put a little effort into it after you bought it.
My reckoning is that business could hit £250 k in 18 months then possibly £350k plus the year after.
Once you get to a certain size, then the business takes its naural momentum and will grow.
What the purchaser needs to do is to get off the tools and go and grow the business, this has a tremendous scope to grow and make some money as well as increasing the potential resale price
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You would get your original purchase price plus increased value when you sold it.
What it takes now is somewhat irrelevent to what could be earned if you put a little effort into it after you bought it.
My reckoning is that business could hit £250 k in 18 months then possibly £350k plus the year after.
Once you get to a certain size, then the business takes its naural momentum and will grow.
What the purchaser needs to do is to get off the tools and go and grow the business, this has a tremendous scope to grow and make some money as well as increasing the potential resale price
sorry dave ;D it is a trad round at probably around £3.50 a house, not a hope in hell
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Would de slightly more than £10 400 per month Vin but you're right,certainly not £12 000 ;)
In what way?
£2,400 * 52 = £124,800.
£124,800 / 12 = £10,400.
QED.
Vin
4 weekly clean will bring in more, it equates to 13 cleans a year, but the maths still don't add up, on the sellers part
A didny notice either,he had already allowed for the 13 cleans :-[ £2 400 weekly would be £9 600 4 weekly and £10 400 monthly.
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£2,400 weekly is £10,400 not £12,000.
Just a thought.
Vin
Would de slightly more than £10 400 per month Vin but you're right,certainly not £12 000 ;)
In what way?
£2,400 * 52 = £124,800.
£124,800 / 12 = £10,400.
QED.
Vin
Sorry,you are correct,I didn't realise you had allowed for the extra clean DOH!
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Posted on 02/11/12
Region: Scotland
Location: North & South Lanarkshire
Type: Domestic
Monthly Avg Value : £12,000
Established For: 6 years
Comments: Well established quality window cleaning round, all done with traditional ladder method, in the North & South Lanarkshire areas. All customers conditioned to all weather cleaning, during all year round. Good payers: all usually pay cash on the day. Plenty of scope to build the round more, as new customers join every week. Selling round to concentrate on a business abroad. Plenty of extra work including gutters, pvc cleaning and power washing etc. Weekly average turnover is £2,400. Willing to split round up to sell as follows: North Lanarkshire Wishaw/Newmains area £25,000. South Lanarkshire Carluke/Law village areas £30,000. South Lanarkshire Lanark area £4,000. The complete round is sold at a discounted price of £45,000. No timewasters please, as we are all very busy and I am not interested in leasing the rounds out or paying for the business in instalments. People looking for a serious business oportunity only. Please contact by email first.
Asking Price : £45,000
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Depends.
If it costs 10k in wages then no. The turnover means nothing.
You will also NOT be able to work 5 day weeks on a regular basis in that location with ladders either!
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Stuart m
I was trad and on ladders, and without employees 7 years ago, with a lot less turnover than that round,
At that time, one of my inspirations was meeting a guy who had a domestic round turning over £250 k with 4 employees.
It can be done
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Stuart m
I was trad and on ladders, and without employees 7 years ago, with a lot less turnover than that round,
At that time, one of my inspirations was meeting a guy who had a domestic round turning over £250 k with 4 employees.
It can be done
He probably still laughs to himself about that encounter! ;D
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Winpro
Why is that?
I don't understand your post
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I asked the question because I was curious how others would see this as an investment.
By the responses it just goes to show how one person sees the potential and, another not.
Personally I think if it was nearer to me I would go for it.
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Don't think he believes you david ;D
I am sure 5 good men could turnover £250k domestic.
The round for sale is close to me and 2 or 3 years ago
I would be at least going for a look but getting staff
is a major head ache and my motivation just now
has stalled a bit like richy's :)
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It Could save you 5 years of growing to get to the level, if you started from scratch
I reckon thats what it would take at least that to get to the current £12k per month
Hi Paul
My motivation flags all the time, it is tough to balance things, getting good window cleaners doesn't bother me, that is the easy part, I have too many at the moment, but I am keeping them all, always find things to keep them busy.
The guy I was on about was a prominent member of this forum a while back, still looks in occassionally, he might post himself.
Dave
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I asked the question because I was curious how others would see this as an investment.
By the responses it just goes to show how one person sees the potential and, another not.
Personally I think if it was nearer to me I would go for it.
I don't think anybody said there is no potential in it,just not as much as others who don't know the trad market up here might think.
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Think anybody buying the round would be looking to convert to wfp
through time custy is a custy trad or wfp
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
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who has 45k to put upfront its window cleaning not microsoft ltd and no its not worth it cause the work isnt gureenteed! check books probly worth between 18-25k!
one thing i noticed about window cleaning is every window cleaner that approachs you and asks questions is full of poop they are all millionaires yet they drive a poop vechicle and look like a tramp.
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
yes so do I
but I take your earlier point and concede you are correct, it could be a good buy, not that I have 45k to spend :'(
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
yes so do I
but I take your earlier point and concede you are correct, it could be a good buy, not that I have 45k to spend :'(
Why don't you get a bank loan . . . . the banks are throwing money at window cleaners :D
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Samson
You are not kidding there, as long as you have healthy accounts, as most window cleaners have on here as they are mostly earning at least £100 per day
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
So do I,he has a squad of about 10 brew boys and he pays them £35 a day,7 30 til 5 and they get an extra fiver for 2 hours collecting...I kid you not
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
So do I,he has a squad of about 10 brew boys and he pays them £35 a day,7 30 til 5 and they get an extra fiver for 2 hours collecting...I kid you not
that is normal here ;D
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I know a very rich Scottish window cleaner or 2
So do I,he has a squad of about 10 brew boys and he pays them £35 a day,7 30 til 5 and they get an extra fiver for 2 hours collecting...I kid you not
that is normal here ;D
;D ;D
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I know a company that pay £1 a house to the lads, charge £3 and the lads have to collect as well for nothing and get the bus through to work