Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: JackieW on November 04, 2012, 10:16:31 am
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The 'good ol' Harris pole states that it is ''5 metres''.
That isn't the combined length of the poles laid end to end when they are separated and stripped down.
It is the length of the pole when it is open and fully extended. Guess what? I measured it.
And it is exactly 5 m long. Thank you Harris for being clear.
Water fed pole suppliers should, in my mind, just clearly state the length of the bare pole when it is fully extended. Bare. With no goosenecks, elbows, brushes or anything else.
Forget 'working reach'. Let the customer work that out for themselves based on their personal circumstances.
By all means call a pole that is 20 feet long (6.09m) a 'Big Bertha 8'
Or a pole that is 30 feet long (9.144m) a 'Bigger Bertha 97'
I happily assume a Mazda 323 is not 323 millimetres long, and a BMW 535 is not 535 miles long.
I see nothing wrong in calling a pole an '18' when it's extended length is an inch over 17 feet. As long as the specifications show the actual length.
Now so far in my searches I haven't seen anyone else but Gardiners have a clear easy to read pole specifications info page.
And to the credit of the Gardiners website they do clearly give this 'extended length' measurement.
I've checked an SLX22 and it is exactly 6.39m as stated. Thank you Gardiners. That is just under 21 feet. Not 22.
Closed length is shown as 4'9''. The one I measured is 4'10''.
Weight is shown as 'approx 1150g'. I weighed it at 1300g.
Quite a difference to be honest. Checked scales against a litre of water = 1kg. That's the five sections with clamps and the end cap. Still a big difference in my mind though. But it does say approx.
Perhaps other people may want to actually measure and weigh their window cleaning poles and post the results. (If their saddos like me).
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Jackie, thanks for this post.
Things are not always as stated.
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Jackie, thanks for this post.
Things are not always as stated.
But should be, thats the point
Art
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Art, very true. When releasing a product into an established market you have to take what your competition state and go by that. Otherwise you let yourself in with a big disadvantage from the off.
It's the whole broadband issue 'up to 20mb a sec' but with poles!
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BMW 530 has a 3.0 engine.
BMW 535 has a 3.0 engine.
See - even Bavaria's at it.
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Proof is in the pudding buy 1 then you can comment .
More than happy with mine does the job it was purchased for.
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Jackie, thanks for this post.
Things are not always as stated.
But should be, thats the point
Art
EXACTLY! AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T DO IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW SUIT !!!!
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Jackie, thanks for this post.
Things are not always as stated.
But should be, thats the point
Art
EXACTLY! AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T DO IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW SUIT !!!!
i dont remember the most popular pole company on here getting grief for doing this
ah but you are a fan ;D
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Jackie, thanks for this post.
Things are not always as stated.
But should be, thats the point
Art
EXACTLY! AND JUST BECAUSE SOMEONE ELSE DOESN'T DO IT DOESN'T MAKE IT ACCEPTABLE FOR YOU TO FOLLOW SUIT !!!!
Winpro, you may have a point there. We took this as the accepted norm, turns out its not!
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When you hire a cherry picker they quote working height, so no different there
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And the 318 and 320 both have 2.0 engines
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Just wondered did anyone else weigh their pole and compare it to the published specs?
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The 'good ol' Harris pole states that it is ''5 metres''.
That isn't the combined length of the poles laid end to end when they are separated and stripped down.
It is the length of the pole when it is open and fully extended. Guess what? I measured it.
And it is exactly 5 m long. Thank you Harris for being clear.
Water fed pole suppliers should, in my mind, just clearly state the length of the bare pole when it is fully extended. Bare. With no goosenecks, elbows, brushes or anything else.
Forget 'working reach'. Let the customer work that out for themselves based on their personal circumstances.
By all means call a pole that is 20 feet long (6.09m) a 'Big Bertha 8'
Or a pole that is 30 feet long (9.144m) a 'Bigger Bertha 97'
I happily assume a Mazda 323 is not 323 millimetres long, and a BMW 535 is not 535 miles long.
I see nothing wrong in calling a pole an '18' when it's extended length is an inch over 17 feet. As long as the specifications show the actual length.
Now so far in my searches I haven't seen anyone else but Gardiners have a clear easy to read pole specifications info page.
And to the credit of the Gardiners website they do clearly give this 'extended length' measurement.
I've checked an SLX22 and it is exactly 6.39m as stated. Thank you Gardiners. That is just under 21 feet. Not 22.
Closed length is shown as 4'9''. The one I measured is 4'10''.
Weight is shown as 'approx 1150g'. I weighed it at 1300g.
Quite a difference to be honest. Checked scales against a litre of water = 1kg. That's the five sections with clamps and the end cap. Still a big difference in my mind though. But it does say approx.
Perhaps other people may want to actually measure and weigh their window cleaning poles and post the results. (If their saddos like me).
Hi JackieW
Thank you for bringing this weight discrepancy to my attention. We pride ourselves on the accuracy and transparency of our pole statistics so I am upset that this error has occurred on the website. I have just returned from holiday and have now corrected this following a session at work with a scales and tape measure to check! I have also slightly amended a few of the poles extended length as some were slightly longer than stated on the website.
Whilst our weights and lengths state 'approx' this is only to cover the small variations in manufacturing that can sometimes occur - this can range from 30g below to 30g above measured specifications.
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Thank you Mr Gardiner for reading and replying. (And modifying)
I thought it must have been just me as no one else seemed to have noticed any discrepancy in the weight.
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ball well caught just before it hit the ground...well done :)
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its simple if a poles 22 feet long when extended fully say its 22 feet. if its 20 foot 3 inches say its 20 foot 3 inches. not 22.