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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: supernova77 on November 03, 2012, 05:44:46 pm
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Just seen this on eBay:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/window-cleaning-van-and-round-/130795694113?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item1e7407e821
A 900L tank in a Nissan Vanette ?!??
£1800 worth of work per month...
Any offers over £10k ?!?? You're having a laugh! :o
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Its was on e bay before August. It looks like a pile of crap. I wonder what keeps the tank in place.
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Lol!
seen that the other day! 10k for a death trap and some work.. no thanks
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If its all wfp work that's well priced and as stated it is well established then 10k isn't too bad a price for the work alone...5 and a bit cleans. Many rounds in some areas are going for more than this. A van too with all equipment needed apart from a tank that obviously needs replacing. Must be worth a look at least, if someone is looking for work and a van. If all is genuine and in good order then it seems a fairly good price to me...or am I missing something. Although I do agree that the tank alone would make me think twice about the whole thing.
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
better than any franchise for the money for sure .
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
I agree. I think the problem is that the quality of the round is being judged by the 'state' of the van - non secured tank, cheap hose reel etc. and they may well be right.
However, the area his work is in also is not known for it's affluence, being a very run down old coal mining area with little other industry (apart from Walker Crisps) and high unemployment, so anyone looking at this must thoroughly investigate exactly what is for sale and what the potential is. If the £1800 turnover a month consists of 3 bed semi's in areas where £5.00 - £6.00 is just possible with 'no money today but pay you Friday' customers, then it is going to be hard work for the money.
I can't believe he has any well paying work in Wynyard Park as I'm not sure that they would let a van like that in through the control gates.
So the question is - why is he selling?
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well if its been on there as early as august its obviously not as good as it sounds is it..
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
I agree. I think the problem is that the quality of the round is being judged by the 'state' of the van - non secured tank, cheap hose reel etc. and they may well be right.
However, the area his work is in also is not known for it's affluence, being a very run down old coal mining area with little other industry (apart from Walker Crisps) and high unemployment, so anyone looking at this must thoroughly investigate exactly what is for sale and what the potential is. If the £1800 turnover a month consists of 3 bed semi's in areas where £5.00 - £6.00 is just possible with 'no money today but pay you Friday' customers, then it is going to be hard work for the money.
I can't believe he has any well paying work in Wynyard Park as I'm not sure that would let a van like that in through the control gates.
So the question is - why is he selling?
Spruce you know the area well were are you based i live near Spennymoor . Mike
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
I agree. I think the problem is that the quality of the round is being judged by the 'state' of the van - non secured tank, cheap hose reel etc. and they may well be right.
However, the area his work is in also is not known for it's affluence, being a very run down old coal mining area with little other industry (apart from Walker Crisps) and high unemployment, so anyone looking at this must thoroughly investigate exactly what is for sale and what the potential is. If the £1800 turnover a month consists of 3 bed semi's in areas where £5.00 - £6.00 is just possible with 'no money today but pay you Friday' customers, then it is going to be hard work for the money.
I can't believe he has any well paying work in Wynyard Park as I'm not sure that would let a van like that in through the control gates.
So the question is - why is he selling?
Spruce you know the area well were are you based i live near Spennymoor . Mike
Hi Mike,
Saltburn by the Sea.
In my experience, the motor dealerships tend to struggle in Peterlee and Hartlepool selling good quality, nearly new used cars for this same reason. 'Bangers' are more sort after because that's all people can afford.
There is a lot of big business in Hartlepool back toward Stockton, but the 'wealth' doesn't filter down to the employees as sales revenue is received out of the area. Most seem to be on a minimum wage with bonuses. The Peterlee Industrial Estate always seemed to be like a ghost town, the idea place to have a quite holiday close to home.
I don't know how Spennymoor is doing these days - they forecast gloom many years ago when Black & Decker and someone else (Hoover was it?) moved out of the area.
On our side we battle with pricing in Skelton (nr Saltburn) but Loftus is even worse due to their high unemployment rate. We have a few customers on disability who have 1 bedroom flats which at one time were good money (bay window plus single window) at £5. Get the brush up and a run of them could be done in a few minutes - money was always to hand, paid on the day. Nowdays they never have money and to be honest most who owe won't be done again when we finally get paid.
Guisborough is interesting as we don't do too badly pricing wise for the North East, but the council house area is generally the pits again with regard to pricing and payment.
This is why I feel that anyone forking out that money must investigate the rounds true potential.
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Oops! I see the area details have been removed and the monthly income from the round lowered to £1600 from £1800.
Maybe an impression of the work developing here that matches the impression I already have from the van
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
I agree. I think the problem is that the quality of the round is being judged by the 'state' of the van - non secured tank, cheap hose reel etc. and they may well be right.
However, the area his work is in also is not known for it's affluence, being a very run down old coal mining area with little other industry (apart from Walker Crisps) and high unemployment, so anyone looking at this must thoroughly investigate exactly what is for sale and what the potential is. If the £1800 turnover a month consists of 3 bed semi's in areas where £5.00 - £6.00 is just possible with 'no money today but pay you Friday' customers, then it is going to be hard work for the money.
I can't believe he has any well paying work in Wynyard Park as I'm not sure that they would let a van like that in through the control gates.
So the question is - why is he selling?
good post but £5-£6 !! thats too much that be with a small cony its more like £3.50 - £4 :)
thing is at those prices they will never ever cancel you will get the no money thing thou
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
better than any franchise for the money for sure .
My guy turns over more than that AFTER my fee is deducted. Substantially more.
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So you get £21,600 worth of (established) work annually, and all the equipment needed to do the job?
I'll be honest & say that looks like a bargain to me - anyone with redundancy money & a bit of motivation could get that van sorted out & expand on the round easy enough - a ready made business for 10k would appeal to many I reckon!
better than any franchise for the money for sure .
My guy turns over more than that AFTER my fee is deducted.
The North East isn't renowned for good window cleaning prices. If there are two of them achieving £19k (figures have been altered from £21.6) then I have to ask them why they haven't developed it. (I presume there are 2 of them as there are 2 pumps and a second pole leaning up against the wall behind the open door although I only see 1 hose reel.) At £800.00 each I can understand why they want to sell it.
Maybe, just maybe, they are too busy with the type of customers that won't be making them any money. My personal take on this is that I'm starting to get the feeling the round isn't worth much.
I recon anyone starting up would be better to buy their own van and have a properly fitted system and canvass their own area at their pricing.
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Hi Spruce as far as my custys go Spennymoor is not fairing to bad i took a big hit about 3-4 yrs ago and lost £150 a month as custys changed from a 2 wk to a 4 wk cleaning schedule which is the norm now .
Yes black & Decker and Electrolux moved abroad which affected the town but in the past 4 yrs 4 new housing estates have been built are still been built so their is plenty of work to be had .
Although i am the most expensive window cleaner in the town so some go with the cheaper lads but we all speak to each other so things are pretty good .
Saltburn is nice place good beach and been to the rally driving place . Mike
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Hi Spruce as far as my custys go Spennymoor is not fairing to bad i took a big hit about 3-4 yrs ago and lost £150 a month as custys changed from a 2 wk to a 4 wk cleaning schedule which is the norm now .
Yes black & Decker and Electrolux moved abroad which affected the town but in the past 4 yrs 4 new housing estates have been built are still been built so their is plenty of work to be had .
Although i am the most expensive window cleaner in the town so some go with the cheaper lads but we all speak to each other so things are pretty good .
Saltburn is nice place good beach and been to the rally driving place . Mike
Hi Mike
Electrolux - of course; memory is going. I visited the B&D factory about 18 years ago and they had already started the winding down process then - large areas in the factory were empty. I couldn't get my head round the reason why they were moving abroad.
A 1/2" 2 speed 500watt Black & Decker impact drill with a 13mm chuck was costing them £7.92 to manufacture in 1995. I couldn't believe they calculated they could save production costs and make more money by moving a whole production line, machines and all to other country to make them cheaper than that. I've just remembered that B&D got a Government injection that 'perusaded' them to keep the factory open, which they did without any machinery. They converted a tiny section of the factory into a 'refurbishment' center and workshops. Country wide B & Decker then sold it's service centers to their accountant (a really nice guy) and service director at the end of 1995 who 'streamlined' the business.
Saltburn has a lovely beach - pity the whole coastline has a sewerage problem which isn't good for surfers - doesn't stop them though. It jolly cold in the winter. Usually you can find me down by the pier at low tide in the evening throwing a ball for the dog under the lights freezing my proverbials off.
I've never been to the rally school just next to the Brotton Golf Club, but many know the owners and it has country wide recognition as a goodun. The golf club makes a nice meal at a reasonable price, so have been there on a few occassions. Lovely view as well.
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Talking about the sewage problem just as well i decided not to eat the mussels the niece and nephew collected last time we were their then ;D ;D. Mike
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I work In Hartlepool and I have seen this van at the north end of the town ( clavering estate) regarding pricing , I'm currently getting £8 for a 3 bed semi without conny, which is in the middle price scale in Hartlepool
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I work In Hartlepool and I have seen this van at the north end of the town ( clavering estate) regarding pricing , I'm currently getting £8 for a 3 bed semi without conny, which is in the middle price scale in Hartlepool
Cheers for that. These little pricing pointers are always helpful. Thanks. How do you manage with water in Hartlepool, its horrible?
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Hi spruce, I run 2 DI vessels after RO , just bought new filters for RO and I can produce about 600 lts before it starts to creep up. I won't let it go over 005 ppm. It's 485 ppm before RO
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where does your water come from at that tds? ................bottom of a river?
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where does your water come from at that tds? ................bottom of a river?
An extract from the website of Hartlepool Water PLC.
Our groundwater network of eighteen boreholes are scattered as far away as Darlington to the West connected to our treatment works and storage tanks near Dalton Piercy. We can store up to 48 million litres of water ready for supply on our sites; enough for over 36 hours supply which helps us to meet the peaks in demand from customers. We also run around ten emergency generators to keep the electricity supplies available to keep the water flowing. Around 700km of water mains ranging in size from 700mm to 50mm in diameter brings water to every business and household in the town of Hartlepool and surrounding villages.
As developers create new housing, water mains are laid to extend our service to new customers and likewise, those areas of housing that are demolished also need the system disconnecting and abandoning.
We operate three high specification treatment plants to create industrial grade water for some of our largest industrial customers. These multi-million pound plants produce almost pure water to meet very tight quality specification so that the water is ready to go straight into the industrial processes for generation of steam and to create the various products.
Our water in Teesside has a tds of 115 and is supplied by Kelder Dam near Newcastle by Northumbrian water. The supply for the whole area bypasses Hartlepool who produce their own.
There was a guy on here a couple of years ago by the name of CNC (Justin) from Hartlepool who kept us 'informed' with regard to the perils of producing pure from his r/o. Not only was he 'fighting' the high tds of his water, but also had supply problems of pressure and flow due to pipe calcification.
He also had problems with trying to heat his van over that very cold winter of several years ago. Everything he did seemed to go wrong.
He hasn't been on here for a long time now. I occassional think of his trials and wonder if he is still around.
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Hi spruce, I run 2 DI vessels after RO , just bought new filters for RO and I can produce about 600 lts before it starts to creep up. I won't let it go over 005 ppm. It's 485 ppm before RO
Until I read this, I thought we had it bad with 280ppm!
VIn
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Ye, Hartlepool , tough place to live, even the waters hard lol. Justin is still going strong , I was chatting to him a couple of months back