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Title: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on October 30, 2012, 08:06:19 pm
Where can I buy brass fan jets.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Slash on October 30, 2012, 08:46:14 pm
Cleaningspot
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on October 31, 2012, 10:51:23 am
Thanks you are a star
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Dave Willis on October 31, 2012, 12:09:39 pm
Gardiners do the Lurmark ones too. They are pretty good, bit bulky for the latest brushes.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Craggs on October 31, 2012, 01:57:23 pm
Where can I buy brass fan jets.

the blue fan jets is best  in my opinion
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on October 31, 2012, 05:21:45 pm
Just ordered 3 pairs from the Cleaning Spot.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 01, 2012, 07:42:09 am
Slumpy how much did you pay for the fans , and also what are they like compared to gardiners fans .
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Smudger on November 01, 2012, 08:20:01 am
those brass fan jets are total and utter rubbish they do not spray anywhere near as good as Lumark jets or Gardiners
you'll just get a horrid random spray

Darran
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 01, 2012, 06:57:58 pm
Gardeners fans do not work well at all . Cleaning Spot have 2. A cheap 2 quid and a 5 quid one I have ordered both so will report back when I get them.I could thinks a 2quid a per will be craps
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Craggs on November 01, 2012, 07:18:58 pm
those brass fan jets are total and utter rubbish they do not spray anywhere near as good as Lumark jets or Gardiners
you'll just get a horrid random spray

Darran

Hi Darran, which company did you get your fan jets from? I got the blue one from cleaning spot.

Cheers Craggs
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 01, 2012, 10:08:32 pm
Been waiting for the low pressure fans from gardiners for about three and a half months now getting a bit fed up off waiting got a couple off gardiners extremes waiting to go on my poles they have the stupid high pressure fans in them more like pencils so i might have to get another make so i can use them  >:( >:( >:(
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Dani J on November 01, 2012, 10:30:56 pm
Been waiting for the low pressure fans from gardiners for about three and a half months now getting a bit fed up off waiting got a couple off gardiners extremes waiting to go on my poles they have the stupid high pressure fans in them more like pencils so i might have to get another make so i can use them  >:( >:( >:(

i 2nd that  :(
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 01, 2012, 10:51:32 pm
I don`t think Gardeners were high pressure jet, just  is design gone wrong.you would need about 150 psi pump to drive them.No windy uses a pump that powerful.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 01, 2012, 11:33:31 pm
Not trying to sound nasty about the subject but if i was the company waiting for the fan jets to be made i would have changed suppliers by now, if i kept my 
customers waiting this long i would have been sent packing by now. Sorry to say it gardiners but i think it was time you kicked some butt and also pull your finger out  >:( >:(
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 03, 2012, 04:29:38 pm
Slumpy have you got your brass fans yet if so what they like
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 03, 2012, 05:40:49 pm
Delivery a little slow Mate, still waiting. I will tell you guy if they are crap on not. ;D ;D
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Smudger on November 03, 2012, 05:54:35 pm

Hi Darran, which company did you get your fan jets from? I got the blue one from cleaning spot.

Cheers Craggs

Hi Mate - the normal 'brass' jets were from cleaning spot - when you say 'blue' these come from lumark and several
people supply them.

Slumpy are you sure you were using the gardiners fan jets correctly ?

Darran
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Craggs on November 03, 2012, 07:31:24 pm

Hi Darran, which company did you get your fan jets from? I got the blue one from cleaning spot.

Cheers Craggs

Hi Mate - the normal 'brass' jets were from cleaning spot - when you say 'blue' these come from lumark and several
people supply them.

Slumpy are you sure you were using the gardiners fan jets correctly ?

Darran

Thanks for clearing it up for me
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 03, 2012, 08:15:39 pm
Its common knowledge the new gardener fan are not working like they should. They are now sold a high pressure fan jets.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 06, 2012, 12:07:56 am
You got em yet slumpy  :)p
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 06, 2012, 05:02:29 pm
NO Mate not sign yet, delivery is not acceptable. I will call in the morning. I am not impressed. >:( >:( :(
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 05:18:32 pm
Its common knowledge the new gardener fan are not working like they should. They are now sold a high pressure fan jets.

We do now have a delivery date for the wide fanjets and I am happy to confirm that the wide fanjets are spot-on having tested the pre-production items yesterday - http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/Super-Lite--High-Flow-Narrow-Fan-Jets-per-Pair-FAN_JETS_RED.html

Unfortunately for us having the narrow fanjets made was relatively easy but switching from milling to moulding to improve strength was easier said than done on the wider fanjet pattern. All is resolved now though.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 05:20:16 pm
I don`t think Gardeners were high pressure jet, just  is design gone wrong.you would need about 150 psi pump to drive them.No windy uses a pump that powerful.


You would be surprised how many of our clients like the narrow fanjet pattern (1-2cm) they produce under standard pressure. We have clients trying them and coming back for more.

However for the majority the wider pattern is what is required.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 05:22:03 pm
Not trying to sound nasty about the subject but if i was the company waiting for the fan jets to be made i would have changed suppliers by now, if i kept my 
customers waiting this long i would have been sent packing by now. Sorry to say it gardiners but i think it was time you kicked some butt and also pull your finger out  >:( >:(

I have been 'kicking' and now miraculously have exactly what was designed & requested sitting on my desk and working perfectly in testing! I ask myself why it was so difficult.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Carl@Cwc on November 06, 2012, 05:23:33 pm
Not trying to sound nasty about the subject but if i was the company waiting for the fan jets to be made i would have changed suppliers by now, if i kept my 
customers waiting this long i would have been sent packing by now. Sorry to say it gardiners but i think it was time you kicked some butt and also pull your finger out  >:( >:(

I have been 'kicking' and now miraculously have exactly what was designed & requested sitting on my desk and working perfectly in testing! I ask myself why it was so difficult.

can i have some please for my wide extreme.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 05:39:44 pm


can i have some please for my wide extreme.

email sent
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Carl@Cwc on November 06, 2012, 06:25:49 pm


can i have some please for my wide extreme.

email sent

thats why most will struggle to keep up service wise.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 06, 2012, 07:18:13 pm
when are they due in
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 06, 2012, 07:22:02 pm
will we be contacted about about swapping them for the narrow ones
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 08:08:32 pm
when are they due in

20th November
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 08:10:53 pm
will we be contacted about about swapping them for the narrow ones

If you have notified the Office already, there is a list of those who will be contacted. If you haven't, then you won't.  You can email me on alex@agardiner.co.uk if you're not sure.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: jk999 on November 06, 2012, 09:14:10 pm
I phoned twice n put my name down
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:15:56 pm
I phoned twice n put my name down

Great, you will be contacted then.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Craggs on November 06, 2012, 09:18:43 pm
my blue fan jet have arrived from Gardiner today, i am happy enough with it.... so the new one coming out suppose to be better then :-\
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:21:12 pm
my blue fan jet have arrived from Gardiner today, i am happy enough with it.... so the new one coming out suppose to be better then :-\

The ones you have bought are the Lurmark ones which are excellent fanjets.

However the Super-Lite fanjets are virtually weightless by comparison and fit easily into any Super-Lite brush without any need for drilling - they simply push-fit into the jet holes.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Craggs on November 06, 2012, 09:28:08 pm
oh ok, well like i said i am happy enough with Lurmark so i will stick with what i have got for now... also thanks for the Gardiner pen which is handy cos i am always losing my pens
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Dani J on November 06, 2012, 09:28:50 pm
will we be contacted about about swapping them for the narrow ones

If you have notified the Office already, there is a list of those who will be contacted. If you haven't, then you won't.  You can email me on alex@agardiner.co.uk if you're not sure.

Looking forward to use the new fan jet Alex, i think i was one of the 1st who mentioned the fault to your office  ;)
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: stuart mc on November 06, 2012, 09:31:37 pm
ok daft question maybe, long time since I used fan jets but I did prefer them, I see the description says low pressure jets, so if I use a high flow rate they will still be fine yes :-\ I am not keen on low flow rates
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:43:43 pm
ok daft question maybe, long time since I used fan jets but I did prefer them, I see the description says low pressure jets, so if I use a high flow rate they will still be fine yes :-\ I am not keen on low flow rates

The new ones are 'wide' fanjets and will have a wide fan pattern under most flow rates (high or low). Generally wide fanjets do use less water so they are described as 'low flow-rate'.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 06, 2012, 09:46:46 pm
Alex

What jets do you use ?
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:47:48 pm
Alex

What jets do you use ?

Pencil - cannot abide fanjets  :)
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: stuart mc on November 06, 2012, 09:51:48 pm
ok daft question maybe, long time since I used fan jets but I did prefer them, I see the description says low pressure jets, so if I use a high flow rate they will still be fine yes :-\ I am not keen on low flow rates

The new ones are 'wide' fanjets and will have a wide fan pattern under most flow rates (high or low). Generally wide fanjets do use less water so they are described as 'low flow-rate'.

I am not getting it, I want lots of water flowing fast, what jets would be best, the ones I used was on peters auto brush if that helps, in fact thinking about it I don't suppose it matters as I rinse on the glass so any jet would do I think, though I am sure I used more water with fans than pencil and I am ok with using more water
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:54:23 pm
ok daft question maybe, long time since I used fan jets but I did prefer them, I see the description says low pressure jets, so if I use a high flow rate they will still be fine yes :-\ I am not keen on low flow rates

The new ones are 'wide' fanjets and will have a wide fan pattern under most flow rates (high or low). Generally wide fanjets do use less water so they are described as 'low flow-rate'.

I am not getting it, I want lots of water flowing fast, what jets would be best, the ones I used was on peters auto brush if that helps, in fact thinking about it I don't suppose it matters as I rinse on the glass so any jet would do I think, though I am sure I used more water with fans than pencil and I am ok with using more water

If you rinse on then wide fans are probably best suited to you although I personally like the curtain effect that you can get with a pencil jet.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 06, 2012, 09:56:40 pm
Alex

Can you get non drip fan jets ?

I need to make a Fan jet delivery pole for a job, might need your help building one

Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 06, 2012, 09:59:25 pm
Alex

Can you get non drip fan jets ?

I need to make a Fan jet delivery pole for a job, might need your help building one



These fanjets do not drip but they provide a good fine spray down to a fairly low rate.

Pop up and have a look when you're next passing.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: stuart mc on November 06, 2012, 10:02:08 pm
sod it I am sticking to pencil I don't get any problems now so why change ;D
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 06, 2012, 10:32:35 pm
I tried spraying Hypo out of some old fogwell jets and nearly blinded myself with the drips in my eyes
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on November 07, 2012, 07:10:08 am
No PPE naughty :o :'(
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Moderator David@stives on November 07, 2012, 08:14:57 am
Small.

It was at home when I was experimenting for private use

I try to be perfect but sometimes, we live and learn, I certainly won't forget the goggles next time
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 07, 2012, 11:25:29 am
Alex you did you say will replace the old fans that would not fan, when will this happen? I bought 4 do you want the old ones posted back to you first.Thanks Richard at Window wizard.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Alex Gardiner on November 07, 2012, 12:10:29 pm
Alex you did you say will replace the old fans that would not fan, when will this happen? I bought 4 do you want the old ones posted back to you first.Thanks Richard at Window wizard.

Yes we will be swapping these for any client that has purchased the previous version but would prefer a wider fanjet.

We will not be requiring the previous ones back as once they are used we cannot sell them again.

When they arrive in stock our staff will be contacting the few clients that are waiting on a swap over.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 07, 2012, 02:44:13 pm
Thanks Alex thats service
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 07, 2012, 02:52:31 pm
Phoned CLEANING SPOT to inquire about my fan jet order not coming. Was told the order was canceled". Not by me ". Answer  " we think we had a problem with your card."  "Why did you not phone me." " Sorry we did not have your number". Another unhappy customer lost for business. He did not even ask if I would  still want them. CRAP SERVICE AGAIN.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Halfadaylee on November 07, 2012, 02:54:04 pm
Alex you did you say will replace the old fans that would not fan, when will this happen? I bought 4 do you want the old ones posted back to you first.Thanks Richard at Window wizard.







We will not be requiring the previous ones back as once they are used we cannot sell them again.

Why not post them off to facelift for them to invent, they would only have to change the length
Sorry Mike, Mr. Fox
Art
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: richard jagger on November 07, 2012, 09:23:39 pm
I want to fit both fan and pencil jets to all my brushes so can change by moving the pole hose as needed. I will be using gardens fan jets. The mans good.
Title: Re: Fan Jets
Post by: Dave Willis on November 07, 2012, 11:07:42 pm
Alex

What jets do you use ?


One of these I've heard  ;)

http://businessaircraft.bombardier.com/en/aircraft/learjet/learjet70.html