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UK Floor Cleaning Forum => Carpet Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: gwrightson on October 30, 2012, 07:39:32 pm
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I had a call last week to see if i could solve the problem in an elderly persons home, lounge carpet polyprop.
I arrived the smell of urine knocked you out , carpet was lifted at all the edges so wondered what had been attempted. well said the owner, the cleaner tried cleaning ( a karcher machine ) and it started to smell so threw some buckets of water on it, it was soaking so we lifted it and put fan heaters on over night,
I suggested it may not fit back due to been over wet , he seemed to think not possible, how ever i took one look at the underlay it was wet through , stains all over it obviously from a cpl years of urine and the smelll had been resurrected . first thing you need to do is new underlay , clean all the flooring refit then I will tackle the carpet itself .
I arrived this morning c/fitters in middle of job with a problem, shrunk both ways, it could not be restreched so owner has decided to put a upvc edging around room to hide .
i cleaned and treatedsaid carpet , spent another 4 hrs doing other area,s and left with a very happy but inhappy customer at the cost of the mistake!!
So here is a pic of said carpet .
Geoff
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Did you get the camera wet Geoff? I think you shrunk the picture ;D
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I cant seem to win uploading pics on here , ::)
Last ones were far to large, might give it another go tommorow /
Geoff
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Tight arse customer doesn't look as though there's any gripper or underlay.
Shaun
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Good old Belgian Wiltons for ya :'(
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Thats not BW its wool , but it has got a hessian backing, hence the shrinkage ;)
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Paul, it is polyprop , even the carpet fitters remarked on the fact it was poly prop
Shaun the carpet had originaly been glued down because of the fact that many of the reodents used wheel chairs or walking aids. apparently to prevent the carpet from moving and rucking .
Geoff
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Pul you need to stop doing those floods and get out to more carpet cleaning ;D
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;D Touche John
Id still put money on it being wool. :)
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Posted by: Paul Moss Posted on: Today at 08:44:10 am
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Touche John
Id still put money on it being wool.
ok Paul, how much you ptting on?
I am revisiting in 2 weeks some more work , i shall cut off a small sample and post , of course i will need the postage cost as well as the wager ;D
Geoff
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Ok deal Geoff, i would like a 12 inch square piece cut out of the centre of the room please :D
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;D
Shall have to be a really good amount of money on the bet to get that one done :o , enough to cover the cost of replacment will suffice, mind its only polyprop so wont be too bad :)
Geoff
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Thought it was only Belgian Wiltons that shrank both ways ???
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I tend to agree with Paul that it's wool, never seen that pattern in P/P.
have you done a chemical test or are you taking the fitters word that its P/P?.... did you disolve a fibre in boiling Xylene? which as we all know is the only true way to be 100% certain it is Polypropylene
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not nesesary Mike,
i am pretty sure 2 c/fitters should know what they were doing and talking about , just to confirm my recogntion .
How ever , your more than welcome to come along in a cpl of weeks if you got a spare half hour .
Geoff
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All the fitters ive met over the years have been very good at laying the carpet but crap knowledge of construction and fibre content.
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All the fitters ive met over the years have been very good at laying the carpet but crap knowledge of construction and fibre content.
exactly my experience - I work with a carpet supply/fitting company that run three vans and they have surprised me with either their lack of knowledge about carpet content/construction or complete lack of interest - I suppose they just have to fit it at the end of the day
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Ok i was waiting for somebody else to make the comment....Shaun :-* are you not playing anymore?
I would say its wool and its also on an Axminister loom and not a Wilton loom. Geoff when you go back take a picture of the back, then i will know for sure what it is.
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Geoff.
Did you get a decent result on the urine smell. I would think a chunk of the contamination would be in the backing where it's pretty well there to stay on a woven carpet.
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Nevil,
yes , forunatly with the carpet been lifted it did give me the opportuinty to physical clean the back, and treat ,
i even went over with the cimex and dynamall on the final attack .
custy very happy , both with odour, and the clean .
as a foot note, the pattern n backing was exactly matching, the carpet only bent one way, usualy a good sign !!
not one hint of the smell of wool ecspecialy as it was damp, and i would not have thought a wool carpet would shrink as much as that,
Geooff.
ps ::)
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Shaun......
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I'm here are you missing me? It's bloody mental here ATM
Wool doesn't shrink but backings do but face fibre can be a contributing factor.
I've seen this carpet before in nursing homes usually with the same urine odour problem as Geoff has had, the belt and braces approach is the best way like Geoff has done if you try and skip or cheat procedure you may as well get the staff to do it with a rug dr.
Shaun
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You should have been in politics ;D wool or poly :-*
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It's defiantly nasty
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;D ;D ;D ;D
I think i should put up a poll ::) lets see what we all think,
Infact i am pretty sure the owner will have the bill for the carpet said only 2 years old its bound to say on there , oh along with the rigourous testin i will ne doing next time i am there .
Geoff
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On initial viewing I'd have gone for wool or wool mix assuming it's an old carpet but I'm viewing from an I pad
Some old axminsters have the same pattern duplication as b/w and ( I'm guessing ) this is old.....