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Title: What do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: richywilts on October 29, 2012, 11:19:30 pm
none of my staff have ever took more than a day or so as sick and have generally worked saturday to make up for it but think one of my staff is expecting sick pay for being off a week what the procedure for paying as not really on the ball with regards to this
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: KS Cleaning on October 29, 2012, 11:40:52 pm
Am not sure the amount you have to pay but,the employer has to pay it then HMRC deducts it off your PAYE bill at the end of the month
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: Ian101 on October 29, 2012, 11:51:00 pm
U can tell them to claim it from the DSS or pay it for them and take it off what u pay inland revenue
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Post by: Window Washers on October 29, 2012, 11:51:37 pm
Has he supplied a doctors note?
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: William McCafferty on October 30, 2012, 08:31:42 am
https://www.gov.uk/statutory-sick-pay-ssp

My accountant deals with this, but your employee needs to produce a sick note, they do not start to get sick pay until day 5 of their normal working week, you should have this covered in your employment contract, you also have to reclaim this money from the inland revenue, normally you deduct what you owe the taxman first and any monies that are owed by the revenue is paid to you after april 5, unless you are suffering from financial hardship, then you need to ask the taxman to pay you earlier.
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: Neil Gornall on October 30, 2012, 09:09:33 am
I don't mean to be rude but how long have you been employing? surely your contract of employment covers this?  :o

If not, its not much use and you are leaving yourself wide open for being taken to tribunal.

Don't ever fall into the trap of thinking "my guys would not do that to me" .....they will!

if your contract is not water tight you need to deal with it asap.
I would go and see a professional immediately.
 
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 07:07:03 pm
ive just had a guy off for 4 months, i gave his sicknote to my accountant,
 he was paid ssp, £80.80..
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: Dean Taberner on October 30, 2012, 07:50:50 pm
Its 3 waiting days and then 85.85 a week. I've recently had one of my lads on the sick for a decent period of time. You can claim it back by knocking it from your monthly/quarterly contributions payments to the HMRC.

Dean.
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 07:59:37 pm
ive just had a guy off for 4 months, i gave his sicknote to my accountant,
 he was paid ssp, £80.80..

hi rog is that per week
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:00:48 pm
and whats the matter with the lazy barstuard  ;)
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:12:53 pm
hiya mike,
deans right it was 85.85.. per week
he broke his leg playing football.
he,s bake now, just have to listen to him moaning about it now.. >:(
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:14:01 pm
 ;D ;D ;D ;D did you make up his wages ?
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: richywilts on October 30, 2012, 08:14:20 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:16:55 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW

take it your not best pleased then richy  ;)
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: g.brookes on October 30, 2012, 08:18:05 pm
i thought you had to give them full pay?  if you pay £85 a week then people are gonna are not gonna be able to pay their rent/mortgage or buy food!  if your staff are genuinely ill then you should look after them, otherwise two weeks of £85 and they'll be homeless!
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: William McCafferty on October 30, 2012, 08:18:50 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW

now you why you should have a real contract of employment drawn up, you cannot get rid of him now, without him taking you to the cleaners
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: William McCafferty on October 30, 2012, 08:21:26 pm
i thought you had to give them full pay?  if you pay £85 a week then people are gonna are not gonna be able to pay their rent/mortgage or buy food!  if your staff are genuinely ill then you should look after them, otherwise two weeks of £85 and they'll be homeless!

they can still claim, DLA, Housing, Council Tax benefit.

In a ideal world I would love to pay full wages while they are off sick, but if that happened I would soon go out of business and then they won't have a job to come back to.
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:23:32 pm
;D ;D ;D ;D did you make up his wages ?


yeah i made them up to 85.85
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:26:16 pm
i thought i seen him busking in glos   ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:31:00 pm
mike,

if i was to make up his wages their,d be no thanks, cant believe how ungreatful him and mr tumble are.
chuck um £20 extra for doing the job i pay them to do NOTHING,no thanks,bugger all
the other two are over the moon when they get a little bonus..

so sod him..
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:35:31 pm
mike,

if i was to make up his wages their,d be no thanks, cant believe how ungreatful him and mr tumble are.
chuck um £20 extra for doing the job i pay them to do NOTHING,no thanks,bugger all
the other two are over the moon when they get a little bonus..

so sod him..


lmao your all heart  ;D ;D ;D ;D

thaT s why i dont employ  ;)
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:36:32 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW


once he,s on the sick you cant get rid of him for a year :o
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:40:49 pm


thaT s why i dont employ  ;)
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dont employ...RETIRE ;D ;D
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:44:38 pm


thaT s why i dont employ  ;)


dont employ...RETIRE ;D ;D
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£150000 its yours  :)

not kidding  ;D
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:46:11 pm
bit much for me  :'(
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 08:49:45 pm
bit much for me  :'(

says the richest man in lydney  ;D ;D
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 08:53:52 pm
i wouldnt mind being a quid behind you ;D
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: richywilts on October 30, 2012, 08:56:45 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW

now you why you should have a real contract of employment drawn up, you cannot get rid of him now, without him taking you to the cleaners

hes still on his probationary period so i can get rid of him on basis his work isnt good enough loads of other factors too after sayinghes happy working weekends etc he aint worked one, wants to now finish half hour earlier everyday due to family time
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: rz on October 30, 2012, 09:05:13 pm
get rid of him tomorrow..
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: William McCafferty on October 30, 2012, 09:07:40 pm
APPARENTLY SOME SORT OF GROWTH ON HIS LUNG CAUSING HIM TO STRUGGLE BREATHING WOULDNT MIND BUT WAS GONNA GET RID DUE TO STANDARD OF HIS WORK WHERE I RECEIVED TEN COMPLAINTS IN ONE WEEK AND STILL RECEIVING THEM NOW

now you why you should have a real contract of employment drawn up, you cannot get rid of him now, without him taking you to the cleaners

hes still on his probationary period so i can get rid of him on basis his work isnt good enough loads of other factors too after sayinghes happy working weekends etc he aint worked one, wants to now finish half hour earlier everyday due to family time

Richy

DO NOT DO THAT, telephone a HR Company and check first, if you don't then you will not have to worry about selling up at xmas, because you won't own it anymore, he will.
Title: Re: what do u do when paying sick pay???
Post by: elite mike on October 30, 2012, 09:08:12 pm
get rid of him tomorrow..

ditto