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Title: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 28, 2012, 01:34:20 pm
I have had a few enquiries gorgeous gutter clearing but don't want to spend loads on a gutter vac .
I have a 1200 watt George wet and dry at home , has anyone used one for domestic gutters ?

Will it do the job ?

Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 02:00:43 pm
not powerful enough, you need minimum 2400w to do a good job!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 02:09:29 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 02:14:52 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
clarkes 1400w is rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about! did you work with a 3000w vac?
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Mist A Bit on October 28, 2012, 02:15:48 pm
just use a slightly less diameter pole to maintain decent suction. i use a 1400w and found it just fine on domestics upto 20ft tried on a larger job at 40ft and didnt work to well.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Smudger on October 28, 2012, 02:28:36 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.

in 3 years of vac'ing we have never ever needed ladders using the Omnivac

Darran
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: petski2 on October 28, 2012, 02:35:06 pm
Quote
I have had a few enquiries gorgeous gutter clearing but don't want to spend loads on a gutter vac .
I have a 1200 watt George wet and dry at home , has anyone used one for domestic gutters ?

Gorgeous???????????
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Silver Surfer on October 28, 2012, 03:48:02 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
clarkes 1400w is rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about! did you work with a 3000w vac?

No probs with my clarke!!!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 04:14:34 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
clarkes 1400w is rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about! did you work with a 3000w vac?

No probs with my clarke!!!
no probs of course, not powerful enough and the poles weight a ton! enjoy! ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 04:48:12 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
clarkes 1400w is rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about! did you work with a 3000w vac?

Iv'e got a 3000w vac and yes it is better but when i had the clarke and a 1200w karcher which i used they still done a good enough job your saying you need 2400w at least which is Billox you don't know what ya talking about use the clarke make some money then upgrade if you feel the need.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on October 28, 2012, 04:52:51 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.

in 3 years of vac'ing we have never ever needed ladders using the Omnivac

Darran

You beat me to it darren ;) As above but been using for 4yrs
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 04:56:12 pm
No you don't ben thats why everyones got Clarkes 1400w and the george 1200w will also work iv'e tried both wattages no problem on domestics no matter what watt vac you have there will always be a time when you need ladders.
clarkes 1400w is rubbish, you don't know what you are talking about! did you work with a 3000w vac?

Iv'e got a 3000w vac and yes it is better but when i had the clarke and a 1200w karcher which i used they still done a good enough job your saying you need 2400w at least which is Billox you don't know what ya talking about use the clarke make some money then upgrade if you feel the need.
i have the clarke and i just bought a 3000w vac with carbon poles. With my 3000w vac i don't need ladders! what is the point to use a gutter vac if you need a ladder, just useless!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 05:00:19 pm
well even with my 3000w vac iv'e been up the ladder cause sometimes when the tiles are overhanging gutter and the big lumps of soil are lodged they just won't budge you mite spend half hour with vac to budge were i'd rather get ladder remove in 5mins then vac the rest.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Wc Solutions on October 28, 2012, 05:03:14 pm
1000 watt! 10000000 watt!

Maybe it's the user more than the machine?!

We do around £300 a month on gutters with a few Clarke vacs and not had any problems.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Smudger on October 28, 2012, 05:04:32 pm
rg - these threads always go the same way - if you've brought a larger vac then you have wasted your money

1400 gutter vacs will i'm sure do a standard house even a heavily overflowing gutter but several times i've seen
owners of these state they then use ladders to unblock the downpipe

to me thats crazy a 3000w + should and will pull out embedded roots and muck from the downpipe plus i can put a 20 mtr flexi pipe on it and suck around an entire house without moving the vac

yes it needs a larger genny but this just stay's on the van so no hassle their either.

Darran
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 05:08:28 pm
Genny ? mines getting sold cause i use custys everytime you should only need a genny on commercial.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Wc Solutions on October 28, 2012, 05:12:56 pm
Mr extreme - is it your mission in life to disagree with every post?!

Yes ok maybe some guys views are wrong but just stop and think maybe tap your wrong at time?

Even if they are wrong, it's there business and customers problem.

Too much bitching wrecks a forum!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 05:30:56 pm
Bitching what you on about haha only joking  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 28, 2012, 05:42:20 pm
Wow what did I start !

I don't have the money for a high wattage vac yet and I was going to use diy poles for now .

Cheap as chips when I already have the vac :-)

Only wanted to know if it will work on domestics until I make a few  quid and upgrade .
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Phil @ Extreme Clean on October 28, 2012, 05:59:44 pm
buy some decent poles mate use your clarke make a few quid upgrade POST CLOSED haha.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 28, 2012, 07:11:27 pm
It's not a Clark e it's a numatic George 1200 watt
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: stuart mc on October 28, 2012, 07:44:15 pm
It's not a Clark e it's a numatic George 1200 watt

I am no expert but I can't see why it would not work, you could just buy some downpipe and a few bits to find out, probably not much use over 1st floor but it is a start, and if it isn't up to it you have the poles and just need a slightly more powerful vac
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: P @ F on October 28, 2012, 09:56:24 pm
Ben M , i dont usually have a pop chap , but since you got your big vac you been full of it , what with your carbon poles and all that , you started out with a clarke and ally poles and it did the job , correct me if im wrong ?
I still use ally poles and a 1400w vac it works the same as yours but on occasion could take a little bit longer , i have vid footage as to what a 1400 can do , dont just slate it cos you have moved on , after all i bet it was the clarke that gave you the assets and the will power to spend bigger and move on and up 

Dont take it the wrong way chief , just saying what i see !

Rich
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Silver Surfer on October 28, 2012, 10:05:25 pm
Ben M , i dont usually have a pop chap , but since you got your big vac you been full of it , what with your carbon poles and all that , you started out with a clarke and ally poles and it did the job , correct me if im wrong ?
I still use ally poles and a 1400w vac it works the same as yours but on occasion could take a little bit longer , i have vid footage as to what a 1400 can do , dont just slate it cos you have moved on , after all i bet it was the clarke that gave you the assets and the will power to spend bigger and move on and up 

Dont take it the wrong way chief , just saying what i see !

Rich

Same as...when my clarke earns me enough dollar i might look at getting a super beast,but until then it might take a bit longer on each job but it's still earning me a half decent wage!! ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: DG Cleaning on October 28, 2012, 10:06:10 pm
Where do you buy poles for the Clarke?
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Silver Surfer on October 28, 2012, 10:08:21 pm
Where do you buy poles for the Clarke?

http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/guttercleaningpolesets.html (http://www.guttercleaningsystems.co.uk/guttercleaningpolesets.html)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: DG Cleaning on October 28, 2012, 10:09:42 pm
Cheers ;D
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 10:10:06 pm
Ben M , i dont usually have a pop chap , but since you got your big vac you been full of it , what with your carbon poles and all that , you started out with a clarke and ally poles and it did the job , correct me if im wrong ?
I still use ally poles and a 1400w vac it works the same as yours but on occasion could take a little bit longer , i have vid footage as to what a 1400 can do , dont just slate it cos you have moved on , after all i bet it was the clarke that gave you the assets and the will power to spend bigger and move on and up 

Dont take it the wrong way chief , just saying what i see !

Rich
you are right Rich but if a new buyer can afford,he should buy first a good vac and carbon poles, i am tired of heavy poles and slow vac, if you want to do good work and able to do few houses a day, buy good equipment first!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: P @ F on October 28, 2012, 10:36:27 pm
Ben  , like i said , no digs , i appreciate  your reply as i just read my post back and wondered how you would take it  ;D

Sounds like you got it nailed , i would like to do the same as you but at this mo in time i am happy to plod on as i am , i have 2 £150 vac and wash jobs booked in for the morrow  , i should get them both done as they are right next door to each other  ;D ;D ;D

All is good in my camp  ;)

Rich
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 28, 2012, 10:49:19 pm
Pof ,  would be very interested in seeing that video footage if you have some way of uploading it  :)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 10:58:54 pm
Ben  , like i said , no digs , i appreciate  your reply as i just read my post back and wondered how you would take it  ;D

Sounds like you got it nailed , i would like to do the same as you but at this mo in time i am happy to plod on as i am , i have 2 £150 vac and wash jobs booked in for the morrow  , i should get them both done as they are right next door to each other  ;D ;D ;D

All is good in my camp  ;)

Rich
;D Good luck Rich, i could not do 2 big gutter cleaning in 1 day with these poles, i am not strong enough  ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 11:06:40 pm
Pof ,  would be very interested in seeing that video footage if you have some way of uploading it  :)
youtube mate  ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 11:09:26 pm
for you Robert, you don't live too far:
http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=159964.0
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on October 29, 2012, 12:55:50 pm
rg - these threads always go the same way - if you've brought a larger vac then you have wasted your money

1400 gutter vacs will i'm sure do a standard house even a heavily overflowing gutter but several times i've seen
owners of these state they then use ladders to unblock the downpipe

to me thats crazy a 3000w + should and will pull out embedded roots and muck from the downpipe plus i can put a 20 mtr flexi pipe on it and suck around an entire house without moving the vac

yes it needs a larger genny but this just stay's on the van so no hassle their either.

Darran

I even pulled up a tennis ball that was lodged halfway down the downpipe on one job and as you say, roots or whatever are no problem.

i don't keep my genny on the van. Instead I use a wheelchair ramp and I am able to get it on and off the van on my own without too much hassle.

Rob
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: SB Cleaning on October 29, 2012, 02:14:46 pm
rg - these threads always go the same way - if you've brought a larger vac then you have wasted your money

1400 gutter vacs will i'm sure do a standard house even a heavily overflowing gutter but several times i've seen
owners of these state they then use ladders to unblock the downpipe

to me thats crazy a 3000w + should and will pull out embedded roots and muck from the downpipe plus i can put a 20 mtr flexi pipe on it and suck around an entire house without moving the vac

yes it needs a larger genny but this just stay's on the van so no hassle their either.

Darran

I even pulled up a tennis ball that was lodged halfway down the downpipe on one job and as you say, roots or whatever are no problem.

i don't keep my genny on the van. Instead I use a wheelchair ramp and I am able to get it on and off the van on my own without too much hassle.

Rob
I have sucked up weeds/plants growing in gutters with my Clarke too!!
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 29, 2012, 03:29:05 pm
Dont know what to do now , don't really have the money to buy a system but have three people asking , can't find anyone who has used a numatic George for gutter cleaning to ask them .

Do I just use a ladder for now ?
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: stuart mc on October 29, 2012, 04:17:16 pm
Dont know what to do now , don't really have the money to buy a system but have three people asking , can't find anyone who has used a numatic George for gutter cleaning to ask them .

Do I just use a ladder for now ?

I do
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: rg1 on October 29, 2012, 09:49:25 pm
rg - these threads always go the same way - if you've brought a larger vac then you have wasted your money

1400 gutter vacs will i'm sure do a standard house even a heavily overflowing gutter but several times i've seen
owners of these state they then use ladders to unblock the downpipe

to me thats crazy a 3000w + should and will pull out embedded roots and muck from the downpipe plus i can put a 20 mtr flexi pipe on it and suck around an entire house without moving the vac

yes it needs a larger genny but this just stay's on the van so no hassle their either.

Darran

I even pulled up a tennis ball that was lodged halfway down the downpipe on one job and as you say, roots or whatever are no problem.

i don't keep my genny on the van. Instead I use a wheelchair ramp and I am able to get it on and off the van on my own without too much hassle.

Rob
I have sucked up weeds/plants growing in gutters with my Clarke too!!

We were referring to DOWNPIPES. Not gutters  ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on October 30, 2012, 06:19:07 pm
Well just offered some allow poles from gutterpole.co.uk

Going to try them with my 1200 wAtt numatic and see how it goes :-)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: williamgdent on October 30, 2012, 10:48:20 pm
Any thoughts on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqxGp1NrqM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqxGp1NrqM)

Bill
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on November 01, 2012, 09:15:57 pm
Alloy poles arrived today,  had a play and they seem ok,  heavy at an angle though .

Will connect to my vac tomorrow and see how well it works .
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: Carl@Cwc on November 01, 2012, 09:43:03 pm
Any thoughts on this one.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqxGp1NrqM (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9LqxGp1NrqM)

Bill

mesh sacks a good idea though, just ordered some.
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on November 01, 2012, 11:22:42 pm
Alloy poles arrived today,  had a play and they seem ok,  heavy at an angle though .

Will connect to my vac tomorrow and see how well it works .
which one did you buy?
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on November 02, 2012, 08:23:49 am
I bought them off gutterpole.co.uk .
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: ben M on November 02, 2012, 08:33:01 am
I bought them off gutterpole.co.uk .
good luck  ;)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on November 02, 2012, 09:45:19 am
Trying to work out if your taking the Mick Iraq being sincere  :)
Title: Re: 1200 watt gutter vac
Post by: robert mitchell on November 05, 2012, 07:47:02 pm
Ok  tried my gutter poles with the 1200 watt George Hoover,  it worked but the inlet blocked very quickly and not really powerful enough  .

Been looking into vacuum specs and found the nilfisk 1800 wAtt vac has 80 litres a second airflow and 250 suction power .

That's very close to most of the 3000 watt vacs ( around 100 to 135 litre a second airflow and some had lower suction power 230 )

Thinking of buying one (120 quid) and fitting a cyclonic inlet and 50 mm hose .

Anybody used one?
The alloy poles are fine but expensive for what they are and probably too heavy for higher /awkwArd work .