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Title: Soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: stuart mc on October 26, 2012, 11:11:53 pm
right the link below how much and how long, it also has a con on back making it awkward

the one with dark red door
Title: Re: testing
Post by: stuart mc on October 26, 2012, 11:31:46 pm
http://goo.gl/maps/eXsIa
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: rosskesava on October 26, 2012, 11:38:27 pm
Going by your description and the picture - £120.

Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: stuart mc on October 26, 2012, 11:51:26 pm
Going by your description and the picture - £120.



that is what I thought, but being here and knowing the area I decided on £80 still didn't get it, it is a lot dirtier than the pic as well, in fact they are black or almost,

he said £50 and I will let you do it ;D I was about to say do it your self and you can borrow a ladder for £20

then he said think about it and let me know :-\

it was funny night tonight, a first for me was a customer who's mrs is away for the weekend asked if I could sell him some dope ???

anyway back to the pic I was thinking four hours work at least
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: ben M on October 26, 2012, 11:51:48 pm
min £100
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: ben M on October 26, 2012, 11:53:42 pm
Going by your description and the picture - £120.



that is what I thought, but being here and knowing the area I decided on £80 still didn't get it, it is a lot dirtier than the pic as well, in fact they are black or almost,

he said £50 and I will let you do it ;D I was about to say do it your self and you can borrow a ladder for £20

then he said think about it and let me know :-\

it was funny night tonight, a first for me was a customer who's mrs is away for the weekend asked if I could sell him some dope ???

anyway back to the pic I was thinking four hours work at least
4 hours work you think? should have been min £140 then!
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: stuart mc on October 26, 2012, 11:56:56 pm
I don't much of this type of work Ben so I could be over cautious on the time, more interested in how long you lot think and I can work out a price from that
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Total shine cleaning services on October 27, 2012, 08:07:37 am
I do these a lot, you would be quicker than 4 hours, id say no more than 2-2.5 hours,
is it to vacuum as well..?

Graham
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: bobplum on October 27, 2012, 08:10:53 am
Going by your description and the picture - £120.



that is what I thought, but being here and knowing the area I decided on £80 still didn't get it, it is a lot dirtier than the pic as well, in fact they are black or almost,

he said £50 and I will let you do it ;D I was about to say do it your self and you can borrow a ladder for £20

then he said think about it and let me know :-\

it was funny night tonight, a first for me was a customer who's mrs is away for the weekend asked if I could sell him some dope ???

anyway back to the pic I was thinking four hours work at least

im doing something slightly smaller,£75.00

i dont know anyone living in that kind of area would pay £120.00 i just think some wc over value themselves
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Smudger on October 27, 2012, 08:23:52 am
Hi Stu - to do all the soffit and fascia (inc Gable ends) should take you around 2 hrs - the fact that are very dirty adds
little to the time and 99% on the time it lifts off very quickly 99% of the time, the dirt just helps justify the price  ;)
(or not in this case  ::) )   wouldn't do it for less than £120

Darran
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: rosskesava on October 27, 2012, 08:53:13 am

i dont know anyone living in that kind of area would pay £120.00 i just think some wc over value themselves

It could be the opposite that some wc under value themselves.

£120 is what I'd charge for around where I live in Brighton.

Cheers
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: g.brookes on October 27, 2012, 10:37:02 am
coming from manchester i'd say £120 is a complete rip off.  even more so in scotland.  i think 80 quid would be a fair price for you and the customer.  location makes a massive difference to the price.  i'd bet the price of a house in falkirk is damn cheaper than a house in brighton.  always think its a bit unreliable asking for prices unless they're in the same area as you
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: ben M on October 27, 2012, 10:39:33 am
coming from manchester i'd say £120 is a complete rip off.  even more so in scotland.  i think 80 quid would be a fair price for you and the customer.  location makes a massive difference to the price.  i'd bet the price of a house in falkirk is damn cheaper than a house in brighton.  always think its a bit unreliable asking for prices unless they're in the same area as you
totally agree
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Total shine cleaning services on October 27, 2012, 10:56:40 am
if you went on the hourly rate and doing it buy yourself, some of you are pricing at £60 per hour for one man, you got to think of the extra work that you may possibly get off the neighbours, I would have gone in at £80 with the gutters vacuumed as well, it's amazing how much interest the gutter vac creates.

Graham
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Smudger on October 27, 2012, 11:34:36 am
£60 ph for specialist 1 off job  is nothing special as a business rate - and thats what needs to be kept in
mind here it's a 1off clean not a regular window clean you need or have brought equipmnet to reach the
gable ends or over the conservatory plus time/petrol to and from the job + the time to go and quote the job.
 
why would you do a job like this to only earn what you would cleaning windows ?

Darran
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: richard jagger on October 27, 2012, 11:46:44 am
I go with £120 in my area in Hants
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Tony Edwards on October 27, 2012, 12:38:49 pm


I have done loads like that and charge £150
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: gary999 on October 27, 2012, 01:12:23 pm
anywhere between £80 and£120 would be about right depending on how much they want done
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: sham33 on October 27, 2012, 03:24:23 pm
Does any one use a power washer on these? I did one with wfp and found it a bit of a drag but money was good. Would like to do more but thinking of using a power washer.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Steve Sed on October 27, 2012, 03:51:14 pm
I doubt that would take me an hour. Perhaps those that say two or more hours do a better job. I did just last week a bigger house than that with a con roof in 2 1/2  hours. And they were filthy.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Ian101 on October 27, 2012, 03:53:20 pm
is the gutters to be emptied out or just exterior wash and are u doing the plastics on the gable ends ?
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Steve Sed on October 27, 2012, 03:53:51 pm
... And charged £130. It might be that if I was full I would have aked for more... Dunno.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Ian101 on October 27, 2012, 03:54:26 pm
Does any one use a power washer on these? I did one with wfp and found it a bit of a drag but money was good. Would like to do more but thinking of using a power washer.

I will be going this way in new year
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: simonr on October 27, 2012, 04:04:03 pm
out of interest how much would ppl charge for the windows on this house, doing the con at the back & assuming a window on side & back of garage
 
i'd charge £12 for that but i've got similar in other areas for £7       

i'm asking cos £80 as some are saying seems dead cheap for a job like that
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: escorttdi on October 27, 2012, 04:23:44 pm
theres 2 of us an id hope would nt be much left to do after an hour

would try at a hunner  but would be willin to drop £20
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Steve Sed on October 27, 2012, 04:49:48 pm
Sorry stuart, but while you were prevaricating, I said I would do it for £80 inc. windows. It took me 1 1/2 hours. I tradded it with my boy.  ;D

http://maps.gstatic.com/m/streetview/?q=carrongrange+gardens+stenhousemuir&ll=56.019302,-3.807299&spn=0.006632,0.021136&hnear=Carrongrange+Gardens,+Stenhousemuir,+Larbert+FK5+3DU,+United+Kingdom&gl=uk&t=h&z=16&layer=c&cbll=56.019272,-3.807494&panoid=TnDk-kaZ-8uflE_Jd6BNLQ&cbp=12,141.54,,0,-3.54

EDIT


My link didn't work, but if you click left until you get to Carrongrange Grove, there is a wc with his boy carying his ladder headed towards the property.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: andyM on October 27, 2012, 05:11:35 pm
Does any one use a power washer on these? I did one with wfp and found it a bit of a drag but money was good. Would like to do more but thinking of using a power washer.

I did a property on monday (gutters,fascias and upvc weatherboard cladding and windows), it was a reasonable size detatched house with 2 extensions.
I used the pressure washer with the extendable lance to wash down after soaping up with wfp and Ecover.
It's definately worth using the pressure washer on larger jobs and I noticed it does clean the gutter brackets up quicker if they are green with crud rather than just using wfp alone.
But it does create a lot of spray so have to be careful if other properties are close by.

 
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: bobplum on October 27, 2012, 05:26:30 pm
how do you get the power wash lance to go so high
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: andyM on October 27, 2012, 05:37:51 pm
I was using one of these lances Bob: http://www.screwfix.com/p/karcher-telescopic-lance-4m/75182
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: ben M on October 27, 2012, 05:45:09 pm
I was using one of these lances Bob: http://www.screwfix.com/p/karcher-telescopic-lance-4m/75182
Hi Andy,

which pressure washer have you got? thanks
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on October 27, 2012, 05:46:52 pm
Works out at £75 for me.

Internal gutters too,plus windows but not cony,

pure for windows but tap water for everything else,

last job would be to wrap large microfibre around brush wipe around the soffit vents for a nice finish,

would hope to be done and dusted in 2 hours,maybe 2 1/2
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: andyM on October 27, 2012, 05:54:25 pm
I was using one of these lances Bob: http://www.screwfix.com/p/karcher-telescopic-lance-4m/75182
Hi Andy,

which pressure washer have you got? thanks

I just use an old Macallister petrol pressure washer (not sure of exact spec) but think it's got a 3hp Briggs & Stratton motor (equavilent to approx. 2000 watts).
More than powerful enough for gutter cleaning.
You don't need anything massive unless doing driveway cleaning.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: ben M on October 27, 2012, 06:04:37 pm
I was using one of these lances Bob: http://www.screwfix.com/p/karcher-telescopic-lance-4m/75182
Hi Andy,

which pressure washer have you got? thanks

I just use an old Macallister petrol pressure washer (not sure of exact spec) but think it's got a 3hp Briggs & Stratton motor (equavilent to approx. 2000 watts).
More than powerful enough for gutter cleaning.
You don't need anything massive unless doing driveway cleaning.
thanks Andy  :)
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 27, 2012, 08:53:08 pm
do a load of these house stu and 2-2.5 hours if not to much dirt to get off.
x that by your hourly rate.

and the reason i say your hourly rate is cause i know you aint going to get what we/i get down here
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: stuart mc on October 27, 2012, 09:12:22 pm
do a load of these house stu and 2-2.5 hours if not to much dirt to get off.
x that by your hourly rate.

and the reason i say your hourly rate is cause i know you aint going to get what we/i get down here

yes that is why I asked for times as well mate ;) ta


think I will stick with my £80 quote, he can shove the £50 offered, it isn't if I even like doing these jobs so don't see why I shouldn't get decent money for them, I can make as much cleaning windows with no stress
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: A@R WINDOWCLEANING on October 28, 2012, 09:38:32 pm
Does any one use a power washer on these? I did one with wfp and found it a bit of a drag but money was good. Would like to do more but thinking of using a power washer.
hi mate id charge £120 all day long, i use hi-lo brush head (half moon ) with fan jets very good tool for job makes light work of it
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: dazmond on October 28, 2012, 10:40:13 pm
that job would take no more than an hour to clean soffits,fascias and  outside gutters so £50 or £60.


seriously guys why does it take you so long?

ive done a fair few over the last few years and they dont take long even if their dirty.


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: G Griffin on October 28, 2012, 10:51:16 pm
Going by your description and the picture - £120.



that is what I thought, but being here and knowing the area I decided on £80 still didn't get it, it is a lot dirtier than the pic as well, in fact they are black or almost,

he said £50 and I will let you do it ;D I was about to say do it your self and you can borrow a ladder for £20

then he said think about it and let me know :-\

it was funny night tonight, a first for me was a customer who's mrs is away for the weekend asked if I could sell him some dope ???

anyway back to the pic I was thinking four hours work at least

Forget the soffits, facias and gutters; too much like hard work.
How much dope does he want?
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: P @ F on October 28, 2012, 11:12:30 pm
Mr G never lets the side down , but i feel he is on my turf !!! ;D

Rich
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: G Griffin on October 28, 2012, 11:14:54 pm
Mr G never lets the side down , but i feel he is on my turf !!! ;D

Rich

Turf? You mean grass?
How much do you want?  :D
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Richard Shepherd on October 29, 2012, 08:06:46 am
coming from manchester i'd say £120 is a complete rip off.  even more so in scotland.  i think 80 quid would be a fair price for you and the customer.  location makes a massive difference to the price.  i'd bet the price of a house in falkirk is damn cheaper than a house in brighton.  always think its a bit unreliable asking for prices unless they're in the same area as you

I come from Manchester and do this type of property for £140, loads of work.

Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Mike55 on October 29, 2012, 02:13:56 pm
To the OP...

Agree with much on what's been said here, particularly about pricing for different regions as you will get differing prices depending on where you are based.

You need to have a feel for how long the job will take you and then multiply that by your hourly rate and that's your price.  Try not to drop down if the custie tries to chip you on price as you will then be earning under your hourly rate and why would you want to do that?

Personally I find this type of work harder than cleaning windows, therefore I have one hourly rate for windows and a higher hourly rate for gutters etc.  If you can earn more doing maintenance window cleaning then it's not worth doing the gutters etc unless you are getting paid more for your time.

As someone has said you have spent money on your gear and therefore have the tools for the job so don't undersell yourself.

Hope this helps.
Mike

Title: Re: Soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: richard jagger on October 29, 2012, 03:35:23 pm
I use a power washer after vacing the inside muck out. I never use a pole on gutters.
Title: Re: soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Steve Sed on October 29, 2012, 04:04:42 pm
that job would take no more than an hour to clean soffits,fascias and  outside gutters so £50 or £60.


seriously guys why does it take you so long?

ive done a fair few over the last few years and they dont take long even if their dirty.


regards


dazmond

Agreed. I'm wondering if I am doing something wrong. The customer always seems pleased. That job wouldn't take me no more than an hour. Plus 1/2 hour for first clean windows. I'd probably price at around £70-£80 inc windows on a first clean. For a regular customer it would be £60 for an hour's work.
Title: Re: Soffits facias and gutter clean
Post by: Mike #1 on October 29, 2012, 07:07:40 pm
I price according to how dirty they are a 4 bed detached cleaning high level guttering and windows after on all 4 sides £65 if not to dirty if they are black with dirt and totally minging £85 . Mike