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Title: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 10:31:57 pm
i may be selling up before xmas possible opportunity working for my uncles industrial roofing firm in health and safety role following nebosh training

so if anyone in my areas chester, ellesmere port and wirral are seriously interested in buying good quality work please email me stating which areas you may be interested in and i will send details on areas size of rounds, number of customers, average prices etc etc

my email address is richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Smudger on October 22, 2012, 10:37:49 pm
i may be selling up before xmas possible opportunity working for my uncles industrial roofing firm in health and safety role following nebosh training

so if anyone in my areas chester, ellesmere port and wirral are seriously interested in buying good quality work   please email me stating which areas you may be interested in and i will send details on areas size of rounds, number of customers, average prices etc etc

my email address is richardwiltshire36@yahoo.co.uk


 ???
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 10:40:59 pm
?????
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: roundbuilder on October 22, 2012, 10:41:37 pm
are you for real??? thought you was expanding last week???
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 10:47:39 pm
just an opportunity thats come about having had a discussion with my uncle something ive always fancied doing like i said in the opening post just guaging interest at moment
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: roundbuilder on October 22, 2012, 10:49:36 pm
fair do's. i have many mates who are roofers. they do earn some verey good dough but have to put the hours in to do so.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 10:51:23 pm
no mick this isnt a roofing job its health and safety manager job he'd pay for my nebosh diploma training his current guy is retiring soon he owns a massive firm doing sarnafil roofing on huge warehouses etc
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: roundbuilder on October 22, 2012, 10:52:44 pm
doh!!!
sounds a challange.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: wpclean on October 22, 2012, 11:01:17 pm
Richy if I were you I would advertise the rounds on www.wforsale.co.uk.

You do not have to explain yourself, or your motives on here, but like any forum you have a choice to open you life to criticism.

Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: dave0123 on October 22, 2012, 11:01:17 pm
May be interested in wirral work maybe chester to. email me voi-p@hotmail.co.uk
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: MWC on October 22, 2012, 11:06:06 pm
The topic contains a lot of wind...........again.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 11:08:51 pm
The topic contains a lot of wind...........again.

why would i waste me time posting if i can sell my work n walk away with 30-40k and start a 9-5 job on 25k what would you do have a lot less stress and less hours working its killing me to decide to be honest what to do leaving something unfinished
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: roundbuilder on October 22, 2012, 11:23:58 pm
why not rent your work out on the side of your roofing venture. at least if it goes tits up you have your business to fall back on??.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 11:29:25 pm
nice idea mick im just looking to see if theres enough interest for the work at min
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: bobplum on October 22, 2012, 11:34:06 pm
my son starts his nebosh in January may be there's more to this hse lark. ;D
I would be interested in little Sutton richy,will speak to you over the week end when i sort the pumps out
bob
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 22, 2012, 11:35:17 pm
Richy if I were you I would advertise the rounds on www.wforsale.co.uk.

You do not have to explain yourself, or your motives on here, but like any forum you have a choice to open you life to criticism.



cheers mate yeah iv seen a number of rounds sold on there for good prices
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Neil Gornall on October 23, 2012, 08:07:25 am
Your new "Business Development Manager" will be gutted!
He has only had the job a week and your selling it from under him  ;D
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: james peters on October 23, 2012, 08:10:18 am
Your new "Business Development Manager" will be gutted!
He has only had the job a week and your selling it from under him  ;D

lol ;D cant take these posts seriously anymore...... ::)I
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: William McCafferty on October 23, 2012, 08:58:20 am
Hi Richy

Is there a forum for H & S guys? if so I wonder if they know whats coming their way soon. ;D

Best of Luck and the next post we will here from you is.

I am just starting up window cleaning again after a career break and I want some advice and help please ;D
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 23, 2012, 09:03:55 am
www.roundsforsale.co.uk
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 12:06:20 pm
Hi Richy

Is there a forum for H & S guys? if so I wonder if they know whats coming their way soon. ;D

Best of Luck and the next post we will here from you is.

I am just starting up window cleaning again after a career break and I want some advice and help please ;D

ha ha ha ha
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: magic moments on October 23, 2012, 12:06:37 pm
This nebosh training is far from easy,and you can warrant far more then 25k per year with bigger companys,but don't be silly and think its not stressful as it can be a massive responsibility,
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: magic moments on October 23, 2012, 12:07:58 pm
But good luck ,only you will no what's right .
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: LWC on October 23, 2012, 01:02:06 pm
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Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: sham33 on October 23, 2012, 01:24:32 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2hapwnFwaE
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: LWC on October 23, 2012, 01:30:00 pm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2hapwnFwaE

 ;D LMAO, this pretty much sums it up
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 23, 2012, 02:44:15 pm
But good luck ,only you will no what's right .

Do you really think he does?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: magic moments on October 23, 2012, 04:57:01 pm
Yes I do ,he speaks his mind I see many posts and warriors slating him ,but from what I gather his business is successful ,I wouldn't be suprised if many are jealous
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Rodger on October 23, 2012, 05:30:21 pm
Personally strikes me as being a disaster zone, not successful. He doesn't know his arse from his elbow, hasn't got a clue what direction he is going in, half his staff have either been in the nick or are now, can't run a business without his computer and wants to sit on his arriss all day long twiddling pens, swivelling on his chair throwing paper-planes at some half-botched double glazing salesman in a lockup.

Good luck if you think he's on the up.

Wasn't he going to go into business with someone from here according to some? Sorry, just speaking my mind.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: dave0123 on October 23, 2012, 06:02:36 pm
true or not... why is every post you have made aimed at richy?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 06:14:12 pm
thought that myself dave strange 6 posts and all aimed at giving me abuse
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: pncleaning on October 23, 2012, 06:35:26 pm
He`s not your business developmnt manager is he Ritchie peed off cos he be out of work again after a week?? ;)
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 06:40:58 pm
He`s not your business developmnt manager is he Ritchie peed off cos he be out of work again after a week?? ;)

hes not due to start yet mate i wasnt expecting a spanner to be thrown in the works to be honest ive price all my work and selling just at 6 times the value would bring in £59000 just as a ballpark figure this is a nice amount to begin new chapter in my life and walk straight in to a new career with decent salary to begin with instead of worrying about staff, wages, debts, gaining new work, weather, i know i will miss it hugely but im gna weigh up pros and cons
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Dave Willis on October 23, 2012, 06:44:11 pm
So you prefer 25k to the 30 - 40k you could earn on your own with the cream? Not to mention no cash in hand?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: James Leet on October 23, 2012, 06:46:09 pm
Richy in ' clean it up look at me ' post shocker  :-X
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 06:58:14 pm
So you prefer 25k to the 30 - 40k you could earn on your own with the cream? Not to mention no cash in hand?

25 k is basically a starting figure in the career im looking to do the nebosh diploma which can lead to global work in dubai and africa etc etc where you can earn 100k

mark understand what your saying but ive had a tough year and dont really no what to do i think id choose an easy life for potentially less money than stress n hours im doing at the moment
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Dave Willis on October 23, 2012, 06:59:53 pm
Fair enough.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Steve_c on October 23, 2012, 07:04:26 pm
How an earth can anybody take you seriously?
You need to make up your mind up what your doing mate because your become a laughing stock.
What ever you choose I wish you luck, but I bet your still on here this time next year and cleaning windows.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: dazmond on October 23, 2012, 07:51:14 pm
whatever you decide richy i wish you the best of luck but i still reckon if you scaled down with one van and sold some work on, you will still earn a decent income without all the stress of staff etc,etc.

i get the feeling you overcomplicate and overthink into stupid little things at times!

ive got it sorted with just one van,regular good income,no debts and virtually no stress and time off occasionally!! :D :D ;D ;D

regards


dazmond
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: rosskesava on October 23, 2012, 08:09:40 pm
whatever you decide richy i wish you the best of luck but i still reckon if you scaled down with one van and sold some work on, you will still earn a decent income without all the stress of staff etc,etc.

i get the feeling you overcomplicate and overthink into stupid little things at times!

ive got it sorted with just one van,regular good income,no debts and virtually no stress and time off occasionally!! :D :D ;D ;D

regards


dazmond

That's exactly my take on it especially the over complicating and over thinking bit. Window cleaning is so simple but I guess not for some.

Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Paul H on October 23, 2012, 08:29:16 pm
Richy - i left a 42k p/yr job to go self employed in the cleaning game not 18months ago

Without going into whys how and what fors i standby my decision.

Being self employed and in charge of my own destiny is defo for me and i have finally found something that gives me a great work life balance.

Working for somone i couldn't go back too (but you cvan never say never depending whats around the corner).. but hopefully it wont come to that...

There are postives in regular gauranteed monthly income sick pay etc... paid holiday sand the likes...

You mention this is a family member  (hmm be careful on that one the family / friend connection often doesn't work out).. whilst sounding attractive at first...

You clearlt aim high with your set up however it sounds like this is your main gripe and seems to be the thing that stresses you the most..

59k for your round / work is clearly not to be sniffed at... i'm not sure what cycle your work is costed on but clearly consider selling some of it off scaling back to just yourself and i'm sure you can still be well off on a weekly basis with no stress ....

Being employed by someone isn't all it cracked up to be ... and i'm sure if you do take the role.. when the novelty wears off you will realise that you where better off being self employed,,
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Crystal-clear on October 23, 2012, 08:38:31 pm
 ??? ritchy
if managing the round is too stressful
why dont you scale right down to one van 2 men and drop the 20% of headache customers?

so you and a 2nd pole person so you are out every day with a helper ( i remember saying you aint keen on the cleaning side ) this way you have some help you will make alot more then your job too then maybe build up again if you fancy it at later date,

also dont forget that £59k asking price if you got it wouldnt be treated as a capitol gains tax £10,600 allowence i dont think but ask your accountant as its just names and numbers, but guessing it will just go on top of your earnings so on top of what you already made for the year you be taxed a few quid mate...

would it really be worth it selling up all the last couple of years hard work just think about that!


Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 08:44:43 pm
ive not been employed for prob 7-8 years so it'd be very strange i agree i have over complicated things and aimed big but had some bleeding nightmares to deal with in the last year that have de railed my progress i just constantly feel i take 2 steps forward and three back all the time i've had a rough time but not one for crying out for sympathy i just get on with it but never really had a chance to put things in perspective coz, ive been so stuck in rut of sorting things out getting back on track maybe it a welcome time for a change
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: supernova77 on October 23, 2012, 08:57:37 pm
Ritchy - How much is your round worth per month?

Andy
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 23, 2012, 08:59:56 pm
im not sure ive not got the work computer on me think roughly £10,000-£11,000 every 6 weeks
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: supernova77 on October 23, 2012, 09:05:59 pm
Quote
im not sure ive not got the work computer on me think roughly £10,000-£11,000 every 6 weeks

So it only takes you 6 months to turnover £59k - Once you've sold it its gone... Think long and hard...

Andy  ;)
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: sunshine windows on October 23, 2012, 09:16:59 pm
Are you vat registered Richy?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: [GQC] Tim on October 23, 2012, 09:30:58 pm
The topic contains a lot of wind...........again.

why would i waste me time posting if i can sell my work n walk away with 30-40k and start a 9-5 job on 25k what would you do have a lot less stress and less hours working its killing me to decide to be honest what to do leaving something unfinished

Your giving up your business for 25k a year? Sorry but that must be a joke? If your customer base is really that great you should retain the best jobs and keep going as a self employed window cleaner. You would earn a heck of a lot more then 25k a year. And change all that for a pencil pushing H&S job? Bit confused here mate.  ???

Bit sad in a way I sold my van to you now as it's just going to be sold on or scrapped.  :'(  :'(  :'(  :'( Oh well......
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 23, 2012, 10:15:38 pm
Yes I do ,he speaks his mind I see many posts and warriors slating him ,but from what I gather his business is successful ,I wouldn't be suprised if many are jealous

magic moments, you have only been here since Dec 2011, go back to some of Richie's earlier posts and you will see a pattern.

There is certainly no jealousy from my corner of hundred acre wood, if Richy has 10K/11K every six weeks then he is turning over about 90K. Just enough to be paying VAT; just enough to "need" a unit with attendant rent. Just enough to waste your money on a job club of "not very useful" employees.

If I was turning over 90K a year I know exactly what I would do with it.

I can understand Richy being jarred off and finding it complicated but all he need do is sell off the least viable 20K and then work the rest with a full timer and a part timer in one van (cost 25K) turning over 45K; then put himself on 3 days on the tools paying himself 20K and turning over 25K - he can then put 25K a year to one side to cover running costs and from it take about 10K as profit.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: G Griffin on October 23, 2012, 10:34:22 pm
Richy, maybe try and sort your head out before doing anything. I think you will have some troubles whatever job you choose to do; you'll just take them with you.
I reckon running your business just exacerbates the problems you face. They are in your head and I don't think work is the cause of them.
I'm not having a go, we all have stuff going on in our head, but I think if you sort yours out, you'll find running your business easier.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: gary999 on October 23, 2012, 10:41:54 pm
i always get the impression with you that you really dont want  to do any physicalwork

if thats the case scaling back ti just you and a van really isnt going to work,why dont you
rent your work out until you have worked out if this new thing is really for you,at least
then you can make a proper imformed decision instead of bouncing off the walls with
your decisions
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: mark dew on October 23, 2012, 10:58:47 pm
For some nutter who has a map by his toilet to show him which way to wave his willy when he pee's, is doing incredibly well to have got to where he is now.
Trim away the drama and i would think very few on here have as good as richy.
Although he does a great impression being as halpless as a feather in the wind, 90k a year of business isn't something that someone just stumbles on.
It takes hard work.
 
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 24, 2012, 01:02:48 am
cheers for nice comment mark, if i hadnt had all the dramas mate over the last year and been able to concentrate purely on building the business id of expected to have at least three times that n prob be turning over 300k but lifes a rollercoaster n has its ups and downs.that's life

glad to see someone has bit of respect for me on here
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 24, 2012, 01:05:31 am
i always get the impression with you that you really dont want  to do any physicalwork

if thats the case scaling back ti just you and a van really isnt going to work,why dont you
rent your work out until you have worked out if this new thing is really for you,at least
then you can make a proper imformed decision instead of bouncing off the walls with
your decisions

gary you have got wrong impression i do actually enjoy physically cleaning the windows if you gave me a nice big job id happily smash it in a day and have high quality work, but i suppose my motivation drops when your in n out the van all day then the customers begin moaning or saying not today, my head goes in all fairness
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Smudger on October 24, 2012, 07:43:19 am
this is the interesting part of a forum, as you don't really know who or what your dealing with.
only a few like bob and Ian have actually met richy so possibly they are the one's who could comment,
when i first joined i was impressed by richys web site, and flyer he posted he looked the bee's  but
some of the post and increasingly so make him out to be, quite frankly a tool.!

i have the strong impression richy does not want to or care for the cleaning side of things - and thats how you
come across richy also one week your biz is making 100k + then when you should be vat reg it only making 30k  ???

i think in there somewhere is a good business man who can build up a window cleaning biz

BUT

he gets sidetracked with the trappings of believing he is a manager of a multi national and can sit around all day
playing with his executive toy - employ other non productive staff members like a PA - sales manager etc..
and this may be richy's downfall to really growing his biz.

i don't think changing to a PAYE job for £25k is the anwser he's looking for either, buy hey ho it's his decision
to make.

Darran
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: gary999 on October 24, 2012, 08:32:37 am
i always get the impression with you that you really dont want  to do any physicalwork

if thats the case scaling back ti just you and a van really isnt going to work,why dont you
rent your work out until you have worked out if this new thing is really for you,at least
then you can make a proper imformed decision instead of bouncing off the walls with
your decisions

gary you have got wrong impression i do actually enjoy physically cleaning the windows if you gave me a nice big job id happily smash it in a day and have high quality work, but i suppose my motivation drops when your in n out the van all day then the customers begin moaning or saying not today, my head goes in all fairness

sorry didnt post correctly...i meant the physical part of the job which includes all of the above
wasnt meant as a slur :)
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Ian101 on October 24, 2012, 09:30:59 am


i suppose my motivation drops when your in n out the van all day then the customers begin moaning or saying not today, my head goes in all fairness

theres your answer there Richy .... drop em there and then .... then no head going.

You have plenty of work to dump the dross I rekon.

I used to try and keep em all happy but decided to only work for decent / nice / reliable customers over a year ago and just stopped doing the rest .... simples ... enjoy my working day a lot more as no more "what we going to be walking into today" kinda feelings when you go to a PIA / messers house.

If I had the money mate I would buy the lot from you and take over the rental on the unit but from what your saying I rekon I would need to have a bit of a sort out of the customers but then I would have a cracking little business plus would carefully canvass replacements for the dross I had binned.

You may have to adjust downwards the amount of staff after u have binned some messers / dross but gotta think of number 1 first mate.

All of the above you can do for yourself and have a great business .... after so long you will wish you had stayed self employed but too late once its sold.

Good Luck !!!  ;)

Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: James Leet on October 24, 2012, 01:24:01 pm
Is this the same guy who lost his laptop and then could not remember his work  ???

Of course if you hadnt have had some drama's you would have 300 K of work, afterall you might have lost 200 K of work in the laptop theft
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 24, 2012, 02:11:37 pm
Is this the same guy who lost his laptop and then could not remember his work  ???

Of course if you hadnt have had some drama's you would have 300 K of work, afterall you might have lost 200 K of work in the laptop theft

couldnt remember all the work coz it was newly canvassed by a canvasser
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: DG Cleaning on October 24, 2012, 08:32:42 pm
I'd think long and hard about it Richy. Have you ever been a manager in an office environment? There's a lot of stress involved especially if you move into the bigger jobs once you have the diploma. In my days in Oz I used to be national tenancy coordinator for a boat load of shopping centres in charge of all new shop fits nationwide. I never thought stress would affect me but it did I had a lot on my plate and it caused a lot of sleepless nights etc. My advice would be to find out as much as you can about the job, even spend a day there to get a feel for it. Take the NEBOSH while your still doing windows that will help inform your decision and it will come in handy should decide to grow your current business anyway. You've worked hard to get where your at.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Crystal-clear on October 25, 2012, 12:10:19 am
Richy if I were you I would advertise the rounds on www.wforsale.co.uk.

You do not have to explain yourself, or your motives on here, but like any forum you have a choice to open you life to criticism.



Never heard of this site and the URL isn't working ?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: rosskesava on October 25, 2012, 12:36:31 am
Sorry Richy and this isn't aimed at you at all but I fail to see what all the fuss is about. You decide to pack up window cleaning and try something else and I wish you good luck.

Why is there this incredible amount of postings about what Richy decides to do?

He's obviously made a decision based on what he thinks is best for him and whether it is or not, that's down to him and only time will tell.

Richy, here's hoping you all the best for the future.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 25, 2012, 03:14:33 am
Sorry Richy and this isn't aimed at you at all but I fail to see what all the fuss is about. You decide to pack up window cleaning and try something else and I wish you good luck.

Why is there this incredible amount of postings about what Richy decides to do?

He's obviously made a decision based on what he thinks is best for him and whether it is or not, that's down to him and only time will tell.

Richy, here's hoping you all the best for the future.

cheers pal i think its because there all sad to think how ciu will now be without my posts who are they going to poke fun at now
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: bumper on October 25, 2012, 06:04:51 am
fookin hell cant be arsed trolling through  most of the post, why every one taking piisssss i wish i could sell mine and get a cushy joband whats wrong with taking somebody on who been in prison my mate who works for me been in and out of prison for years best worker ive had, now nearly pushing 60 left all that behind him apart from him being on sick,and working on side ive been doing windows now 30 years and probably the longest serving cowboy ive been all down the roads to window cleaning about scams dole and tax but my customers get there windows cleaned and thats it,SO ANYBODY WANTS TO BUY MY ROUND ILL TAKE 30 GRAND(NO TIME WASTERS PLEASE.
ps thursday is a no no day signing on day.
                           bumper :)
good luck richywilts spend your window cleaning money well ohh i dornt take cheqs ill pop round laters for mi moneys.





Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: James Leet on October 25, 2012, 09:41:47 am
Sorry Richy and this isn't aimed at you at all but I fail to see what all the fuss is about. You decide to pack up window cleaning and try something else and I wish you good luck.

Why is there this incredible amount of postings about what Richy decides to do?

He's obviously made a decision based on what he thinks is best for him and whether it is or not, that's down to him and only time will tell.

Richy, here's hoping you all the best for the future.

cheers pal i think its because there all sad to think how ciu will now be without my posts who are they going to poke fun at now

You knew what the response would be when you posted it.

Which was the whole reason for you posting it.

Nothing more than Attention.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: richywilts on October 25, 2012, 10:21:52 am
re read the original post pal i was asking who would be interested in my rounds
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: William McCafferty on October 25, 2012, 10:45:09 am
Richy

Have you a business / life plan in place for the next 5 to 10 years?

A lot of people make the mistakes of what they would like to happen to having concreate goals and targets with a timeline attached.

Myself I have a business plan in place to achieve semi-retirement mode for 23 October 2016, at the moment I am on target even after a few curve balls coming my way.

If you haven't a plan in place, then before you sell up and start a new job, sit down and work out what you want and how you can get it, set your end game in small achivable steps and then work though each step untill you achieve your goal.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 25, 2012, 09:20:02 pm
Richy

Have you a business / life plan in place for the next 5 to 10 years?

A lot of people make the mistakes of what they would like to happen to having concreate goals and targets with a timeline attached.

Myself I have a business plan in place to achieve semi-retirement mode for 23 October 2016, at the moment I am on target even after a few curve balls coming my way.

If you haven't a plan in place, then before you sell up and start a new job, sit down and work out what you want and how you can get it, set your end game in small achivable steps and then work though each step untill you achieve your goal.

I do love your posts Pure HYDRO - you sound like every corporate sales course educator I ever met between 1985 and 1992!  ;D
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: William McCafferty on October 25, 2012, 09:28:52 pm
Richy

Have you a business / life plan in place for the next 5 to 10 years?

A lot of people make the mistakes of what they would like to happen to having concreate goals and targets with a timeline attached.

Myself I have a business plan in place to achieve semi-retirement mode for 23 October 2016, at the moment I am on target even after a few curve balls coming my way.

If you haven't a plan in place, then before you sell up and start a new job, sit down and work out what you want and how you can get it, set your end game in small achivable steps and then work though each step untill you achieve your goal.

I do love your posts Pure HYDRO - you sound like every corporate sales course educator I ever met between 1985 and 1992!  ;D

and now look at me ::) I clean windows for a living 8)

But in 3 years and 364 days I will be spending 8 months of the year, following the sun around the world  ;);D ;D
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: wpclean on October 25, 2012, 09:54:02 pm
Richy

Have you a business / life plan in place for the next 5 to 10 years?

A lot of people make the mistakes of what they would like to happen to having concreate goals and targets with a timeline attached.

Myself I have a business plan in place to achieve semi-retirement mode for 23 October 2016, at the moment I am on target even after a few curve balls coming my way.

If you haven't a plan in place, then before you sell up and start a new job, sit down and work out what you want and how you can get it, set your end game in small achivable steps and then work though each step untill you achieve your goal.

I do love your posts Pure HYDRO - you sound like every corporate sales course educator I ever met between 1985 and 1992!  ;D
Did you meet a lot of corporate sales course educators between 1985 and 1992 Gold ?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: paul13 on October 25, 2012, 10:55:49 pm
Richy I do enjoy your posts and so do many others by the look of it ;D
why don't you employ a good window cleaner some one who will go out clean,
deal with custy's and let you sit in your office organising and taking care of
the paper work.
On that turnover I would be looking for one good man and two average joe's
to take care of the manual side of the business leaving you to do as you please
I mean build your business.
Whatever you do good luck.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Carl@Cwc on October 25, 2012, 11:15:44 pm
surely 2 full time cleaners could deal with this workload?
at a stretch 3 & 1 being part time = quids in for you really....

if i were nearer i would seriously think about taking ur work on.after a look at the round.

get sheets organised , get tough , set em a schedule and figure. send em out and any probs u deal with.

are u leafletting regular = expensive i know.
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: KS Cleaning on October 26, 2012, 12:25:18 am
Sorry Richy and this isn't aimed at you at all but I fail to see what all the fuss is about. You decide to pack up window cleaning and try something else and I wish you good luck.

Why is there this incredible amount of postings about what Richy decides to do?

He's obviously made a decision based on what he thinks is best for him and whether it is or not, that's down to him and only time will tell.

Richy, here's hoping you all the best for the future.

cheers pal i think its because there all sad to think how ciu will now be without my posts who are they going to poke fun at now

You knew what the response would be when you posted it.

Which was the whole reason for you posting it.

Nothing more than Attention.
+ 1
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 26, 2012, 12:47:35 am
re read the original post pal i was asking who would be interested in my rounds



you know the answer me  ;)
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: rosskesava on October 26, 2012, 01:05:28 am

You knew what the response would be when you posted it.

Which was the whole reason for you posting it.

Nothing more than Attention.

I'd like to know how comes you have this ability to know the minds of others?
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: AuRavelling79 on October 26, 2012, 05:22:47 pm
Richy

Have you a business / life plan in place for the next 5 to 10 years?

A lot of people make the mistakes of what they would like to happen to having concreate goals and targets with a timeline attached.

Myself I have a business plan in place to achieve semi-retirement mode for 23 October 2016, at the moment I am on target even after a few curve balls coming my way.

If you haven't a plan in place, then before you sell up and start a new job, sit down and work out what you want and how you can get it, set your end game in small achivable steps and then work though each step untill you achieve your goal.

I do love your posts Pure HYDRO - you sound like every corporate sales course educator I ever met between 1985 and 1992!  ;D
Did you meet a lot of corporate sales course educators between 1985 and 1992 Gold ?

About half a dozen.
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Window Washers on October 26, 2012, 06:54:46 pm
Richy if you do sell up, best of luck to you in what ever you do mate, I have met you, I know what you have and I know full well it is a ballache.

Ignor the haters, they are prbs nice guys if you met them away from a computer. You do leave yourself up though to a drilling (I think you like it lol

be lucky
Title: Re: possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: ste20 on October 27, 2012, 04:05:29 pm
Personally strikes me as being a disaster zone, not successful. He doesn't know his arse from his elbow, hasn't got a clue what direction he is going in, half his staff have either been in the nick or are now, can't run a business without his computer and wants to sit on his arriss all day long twiddling pens, swivelling on his chair throwing paper-planes at some half-botched double glazing salesman in a lockup.

Good luck if you think he's on the up.

Wasn't he going to go into business with someone from here according to some? Sorry, just speaking my mind.

HI DAZMOND, I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT SOME OF YOUR POSTS AND THE WAY YOU AND THIS CHARACTER WRITE IS VERY SIMILAR, BOTH JEALOUS, BOTH SPITEFUL, BOTH CLEARLY GOT SOMETHING AGAINST RICHY?? I WONDER IF BOTH IP ADDRESS ARE THE SAME??
 IF ONLY A MODERATOR WOULD SHED SOME LIGHT PERHAPS??
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Rodger on October 27, 2012, 04:29:15 pm
Spade a spade in my book lad.  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: thermoclean on October 27, 2012, 10:30:16 pm
Richy you are guilty of totally over complicating this job it's simple pay guys to service the work you already have, sub contract to them or take them on as output workers so they get paid for what they do. get as many customers as possible to pay by bacs or standing order the rest send cheques. No thing for you to do!!!  Then you can either go and take up another job or just grow your business.
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Window Washers on October 27, 2012, 11:36:53 pm
Richy you are guilty of totally over complicating this job it's simple pay guys to service the work you already have, sub contract to them or take them on as output workers so they get paid for what they do. get as many customers as possible to pay by bacs or standing order the rest send cheques. No thing for you to do!!!  Then you can either go and take up another job or just grow your business.
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: mikeyfaerosyth on October 28, 2012, 01:18:18 am
seems to me the boy is an acheiver whatever he does,cant knock him for that,maybe just looking for a bit of support from fellow windys,just needs direction,and his posts aint harming anyone,whatever hes doing hes doing well.just my thoughts :)
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: ben M on October 28, 2012, 01:32:40 am
seems to me the boy is an acheiver whatever he does,cant knock him for that,maybe just looking for a bit of support from fellow windys,just needs direction,and his posts aint harming anyone,whatever hes doing hes doing well.just my thoughts :)
+1
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: paul13 on October 28, 2012, 08:30:38 am
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life
[/quote]

Like what?
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Smudger on October 28, 2012, 09:04:29 am
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life

Like what?  
[/quote]


try it and then you will find out

Darran
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: roundbuilder on October 28, 2012, 10:46:40 am
Richy you are guilty of totally over complicating this job it's simple pay guys to service the work you already have, sub contract to them or take them on as output workers so they get paid for what they do. get as many customers as possible to pay by bacs or standing order the rest send cheques. No thing for you to do!!!  Then you can either go and take up another job or just grow your business.
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life
I cant think of many others apart from tax and vat headaches.
Thats 1 reason that i chose a windowcleaning business , the simplicity of it all. Mind you i do have my lovely mother doing all the paperwork and job logging etc which saves me a lot of time and hassle.
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: paul13 on October 28, 2012, 05:20:35 pm
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life

Like what?  


try it and then you will find out

Darran
[/quote]


Been trying it for 10 years got two staff now had many over years, pay my taxes
I do a mixture of commercial and domestic in  my opinion finding staff  getting paid
and finding custy's is the business am I wrong have I missed something?
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: TomCrowther on October 28, 2012, 06:14:02 pm
I think that Richy is stressed out from whatever issues he has faced over the last year or so and imagines more of the same down the road. he has some bad paying customers, staff issues and what have you and fancies what he hopes is an easier life. If I was him, I would take a short holiday and come back full of beans and just get on top of the business.
Last thing I would want is a job with someone else calling the shots but maybe that's what he needs to make him see all the benefits of our wondeful profession  :)
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: thermoclean on October 28, 2012, 06:28:30 pm
What more is there window washer? 
That's what I do,granted you need good staff and best way to motivate them is to pay them well
I spend some of my time building my cleaning business and some of my time with other business interests.
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Dean Taberner on October 28, 2012, 08:12:58 pm
I think that it all boils down to that old chesnut that when all is said and done, window cleaning can be very distressing at times.
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: paul13 on October 29, 2012, 04:11:43 pm
I think that it all boils down to that old chesnut that when all is said and done, window cleaning can be very distressing at times.

Not having a go at you but window cleaning very distressing ? don't you mean life can be
very distressing,  window cleaning in my opinion has got to be the easiest most stress free
 business to be in :)
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 29, 2012, 07:12:20 pm
Not according to the Gospel
Of Dean
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Dean Taberner on October 29, 2012, 09:54:32 pm
I think that it all boils down to that old chesnut that when all is said and done, window cleaning can be very distressing at times.

Not having a go at you but window cleaning very distressing ? don't you mean life can be
very distressing,  window cleaning in my opinion has got to be the easiest most stress free
 business to be in :)

Are you religious Paul?
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: Window Washers on October 29, 2012, 10:16:32 pm
if only in reality it was that simple, there is far far more involved in a business than getting customers looking after staff and getting paid, wish three wasn't but that's life

Like what?  

+1
try it and then you will find out

Darran
[/quote]
Title: Re: Possibly selling up before xmas
Post by: paul13 on October 29, 2012, 10:24:50 pm
I think that it all boils down to that old chesnut that when all is said and done, window cleaning can be very distressing at times.

Not having a go at you but window cleaning very distressing ? don't you mean life can be
very distressing,  window cleaning in my opinion has got to be the easiest most stress free
 business to be in :)

Are you religious Paul?


Why??