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Title: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on January 30, 2006, 06:40:04 pm
hi all,

         i like to upgrade my 100 psi pump to 200 psi ive got a alltec aqua 50 twin vac,  has anyone done this? will it fit? what pump should i go for and were to buy?

help appreciated,         thanks craig. ;D
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on January 30, 2006, 06:45:44 pm
from what i can rember all the smaller pumps from 50 psi-200 were the same size just more psi alltec sell a 200psi pump flowjet i think
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on January 30, 2006, 06:49:43 pm
ok thanks gary,

ill try them, i never thought they would do a 200 because they dont fit them in there machines,  i think a 200 would be perfect for the little aqua.

craig
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on January 30, 2006, 07:05:23 pm
i know they do one because my mate brought one coulpe moths back,they used to fit them in thier machines dunno y they stopped,try www.ashbys.co.uk as well , and if flowjet dont do one seach a dealer for shureflo pumps
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: Neil Grainger on January 30, 2006, 07:20:58 pm
All

They stoped using the 200psi because it was unreliable and kept braking down.

They have put the 135psi back in their advantage machines.

Cheers

Neil

Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on January 30, 2006, 08:14:18 pm
il have to ask them about it, dont want a unrelieble one, higher ones(300-400) are ok arent they? is it just 200 then?
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on January 31, 2006, 03:54:17 am
anything over 200 is going to hav seprate electric motor so they are pretty good as they hav less parts to go wrong, thet are tot diffrent to the lesser pumps and are hefty bits kit, touch wood i ve had them in all my machines for last six years and never ad one let me down, i only no of two makers of these but there  are prob more they are cat pumps and pump tec and usally come in kit form ie pump ,motor,gauge.press reg etc ,the first cat pumps i think make lot truckmount pumps, alot of the smaller pumps pack up if u are useing hight heat a lot, but the bigger pumps can handle lot higher heat , i dont no how big the alltec machine is so dont no if one would fit in it, u also need a bypass pipe on them sending the water back to tank when not pressing the trigger as they are not supply and demand type pumps, if u get one these pumps u wonder how u ever cleaned  before
gary
www.dultmeier.com    u can c pumps here
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on January 31, 2006, 02:42:24 pm
hi click here,       http://www.carpetcleaningworld.com/qd000000.html

are any these cat?  which should i go for?  ive got more space around the pump than i thought, ill measure up now.     i dont know much about pumps.
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on January 31, 2006, 03:17:42 pm
hi yes these are pump tecs 205 with masterclean name put on them, if u can aford it get the 400psi
gary and at that price it should come with the gagues,press reg etc as i know ashbys ones do
gary
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on January 31, 2006, 04:14:18 pm
thanks gary, il ring them for the sizes see what will fit,  and check if one lead will run it with the 2 vacs.

not cheap are they.

craig.
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on January 31, 2006, 06:43:01 pm
yes it will run with one lead as my ninja runs two vacs and 400psi pump on one lead,and yes they are a lot money but in this game every thing is dear as hell
gary
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: Ian Gourlay on February 01, 2006, 12:49:04 am
Do you use diffrent Jets with a 400psi pump and would you need to check your hose rating?


Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: Kinver_Clean on February 01, 2006, 08:14:59 am
Only 135 pumps running at 100 will fit an Aqua- there is not room for anything else. As said above, the 200 pumps were so unreliable Alltec stopped using them-- I have two in my shed now taking up room. They run for 10 mins then stop.
I doubt that their induction motored pump will fit an Aqua, this will give about 90 when using a twin jet wand. If you want higher pressures you are looking at serious pumps with the extra weight and space involved.

Trevor
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on February 01, 2006, 08:25:35 am
u might hav to play around with jets to get it right, as for hoses it will say on t what pressure rating it is i be very surprised if most hoses are not good for 400 psi my hoses which came with old machines of mine with 250 psi pumps are rated 2250psi 250 f
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on February 01, 2006, 09:28:27 am
i think your right gary, have you seen how thick the rubber is on solution hoses, theyll take way abovr 400, and i know my tools are rated high enough,  with regards room,  i ve got 180mm x 130mm x 270mm  enough?   what size is a 300?

craig
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on February 01, 2006, 09:58:41 am
what u got in there at min? 1 vac two vacs? and small pump? heater ?   the higher power pumps are not that big its more the motor , giv me hour i will look at one my ashby ones and measrure the pump and motor for u mate, p,s the ashbys ones use a motor thats not as bulky
gary
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on February 01, 2006, 10:38:25 am
the whole pump and motor is 9inches long,5 inches wide,9 inches deep the pump sits on top of ashby ones(which i would go for, phone them for a price to include pump, motor, press reg,gauge and hoses and fitting u need
 id say looking at it it take 2 hous to fit, the motor is held down by 4 10ml bolts  couple wires out of it, u need to make a hole to put your reg on outside and hole in your frsh tank for bypass hose apart from that its conect in coming water hose to pump ,connect out going to your sol connecter , there easy ??? lol
p.s u dont hav to av gauge if u dont want one,some peopl recon they get better pressure without them
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: craigp on February 01, 2006, 04:29:05 pm
hi,
       i spoke to someone at carpet world, i dont think 300 will fit, but 200 will, apparently thats 200psi at the wand not the pump head and what i got (100psi) is at the pump head so only about 70psi at the wand, so it should still be a big inprovement its a brush pump but needs a bypass back to the sol. tank, thought that was the induction type.  i been told its relieble so i just cant see why alltec dont put it in there for an optional upgrade on a new machine?
because 100s a bit low is nt it?
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: HQCS (John Kastrian) on February 01, 2006, 04:42:43 pm
I can't understand why manufacturers still supply machines with 100 psi pumps as standard,this really is the bare minimum to work with,particularly upstairs with 2 x 7.5 mtr hoses connected,you lose a lot of solution pressure with a 100psi.
I think 200 should be the standard these days,I think the price difference between 100-200 would be negligible,I have been thinking of fitting an uprated pump to my Prochem steempro 2000,but not sure of which one to go for.-John
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: cleaning co on February 01, 2006, 08:36:22 pm
they sell a lot of these low spec machines to new people getting into the game,  as myself did  i did not know what diff cleaning would make with a 65 psi machine or 400psi  2 stage vac or 3 stage heat or no heater i just wanted to get out thier and clean carpets and we didnt hav the internet as it is now for seaching machines or forums like this, but saying that they will still shift hundreds of low spec machines even now
Title: Re: alltec aqua pump upgrage
Post by: Vernon Purcell on February 15, 2006, 08:32:42 pm
Masterclean does not put there name on PumpTec pumps. Pump Tec puts there name on them for them as they are made to their spec with a diffrent seal material and diffrent cam spec. Their induction pumps have been in the Uk for 10 years now.