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Title: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 17, 2012, 07:31:53 pm
Who's the best supplier to use for Rectus 21's? I used to use Cleantech before they ceased trading, there fittings were good and well priced. I have used a different supplier since then but the fittings seem to break down much quicker with the bearings going and water flowing out of the fitting when you disconnect your pole hose.

Some recommendations on the best suppliers for this product atm would be very helpful  :)
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: Carl@Cwc on October 17, 2012, 08:29:34 pm
try these m8

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/150917122215?ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1497.l2649

ONLY A £1 DELIVERY TOO.

i ordered some monday night and they arrived today ;D
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: steve m on October 17, 2012, 10:49:29 pm
rectus were bought up by hopespare about 18 months ago and they've got quite a few branches nationwide, so just find one and go buy them
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: ben M on October 17, 2012, 11:38:16 pm
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/ez-snap-female-end-stop-coupling.html
 ;)
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: davids3511 on October 18, 2012, 08:41:56 am
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/ez-snap-female-end-stop-coupling.html
 ;)
gardeners are great for most things but their eazy snaps are crap. I have had nothing but trouble with them. I buy just about all my gear from them but not these.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: ben M on October 18, 2012, 09:15:35 am
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/ez-snap-female-end-stop-coupling.html
 ;)
gardeners are great for most things but their eazy snaps are crap. I have had nothing but trouble with them. I buy just about all my gear from them but not these.
no way, never had any problem with their ez snap!
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: king marko on October 18, 2012, 10:39:34 am
I've always used this company mate - good prices and fast delivery
Last year tho I changed to rectus 26 - much better connector IMHO

http://www.hosesandmore.co.uk/
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on October 18, 2012, 10:46:17 am
The problem with rectus connectors is that they are not designed to take abuse. Dragging on the floor just wears them down.

What you need to do is to protect them using things like the protecta balls that gardiners (and others) sell. Also you need to make sure they are fitted up close and personal against eachother and they cant move.

They wont last forever and dont cost much at all. I always have spares and anytime im ordering something, i always have a few added to my order.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 18, 2012, 05:21:28 pm
http://www.gardinerpolesystems.co.uk/acatalog/ez-snap-female-end-stop-coupling.html
 ;)
gardeners are great for most things but their eazy snaps are crap. I have had nothing but trouble with them. I buy just about all my gear from them but not these.

Yep have to agree. The rectus 21's I've had from them recently are failing at an alarming rate' bearings going and leaking water after a very short space of time.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: Frankybadboy on October 18, 2012, 05:45:52 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 18, 2012, 06:38:38 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 18, 2012, 06:44:58 pm

Thanks for all the links Guy's I'm gonna look at them all and try a few out
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: Alex Gardiner on October 19, 2012, 08:01:39 am
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.

As Frank has mentioned already when replacing the female shut-off fitting you should always replace all of the males in use at the same time. According to all of the manufacturers of these items this should be standard practise. This advice is posted on our website under these fittings. A worn or damaged male fitting can inflict internal damage on the female and render it non-working sometimes within a matter of days. This appears to be the female 'failing' and yet is the males fault.

The typical pattern goes, you have a female fitting that lasts a good length of time say 8 months and then it is replaced. The male is not replaced and the new female lasts only about 2-3 months (because it is being used with an 8 month old male), you then replace the female again (usually muttering about poor quality!) with another female and still leave all of the now 10/11 month old males in place. The new female only last about 2-3 weeks and poor quality is again blamed. In reality the males have done all the damage on the last two fittings and get none of the blame  :)

It really is worth starting afresh with all new males and females and seeing how long they last. We find that working this way we usually get between 6-8 months from a set of fittings.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: Tony Edwards on October 19, 2012, 01:13:36 pm


Another excuse for females to blame males !!
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 19, 2012, 04:47:00 pm


Another excuse for females to blame males !!

 ;D
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: davids3511 on October 19, 2012, 04:52:06 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.

As Frank has mentioned already when replacing the female shut-off fitting you should always replace all of the males in use at the same time. According to all of the manufacturers of these items this should be standard practise. This advice is posted on our website under these fittings. A worn or damaged male fitting can inflict internal damage on the female and render it non-working sometimes within a matter of days. This appears to be the female 'failing' and yet is the males fault.

The typical pattern goes, you have a female fitting that lasts a good length of time say 8 months and then it is replaced. The male is not replaced and the new female lasts only about 2-3 months (because it is being used with an 8 month old male), you then replace the female again (usually muttering about poor quality!) with another female and still leave all of the now 10/11 month old males in place. The new female only last about 2-3 weeks and poor quality is again blamed. In reality the males have done all the damage on the last two fittings and get none of the blame  :)

It really is worth starting afresh with all new males and females and seeing how long they last. We find that working this way we usually get between 6-8 months from a set of fittings.
This logic works once it is the same accross all the brands. I gave up buying from your company when I had some go the same day or within a week of fitting them, not one but a few. I started buying the byersan model and have been using the same one for 6 months with the same male that supposedly caused the gardiners model to fail.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 19, 2012, 04:57:00 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.

As Frank has mentioned already when replacing the female shut-off fitting you should always replace all of the males in use at the same time. According to all of the manufacturers of these items this should be standard practise. This advice is posted on our website under these fittings. A worn or damaged male fitting can inflict internal damage on the female and render it non-working sometimes within a matter of days. This appears to be the female 'failing' and yet is the males fault.

The typical pattern goes, you have a female fitting that lasts a good length of time say 8 months and then it is replaced. The male is not replaced and the new female lasts only about 2-3 months (because it is being used with an 8 month old male), you then replace the female again (usually muttering about poor quality!) with another female and still leave all of the now 10/11 month old males in place. The new female only last about 2-3 weeks and poor quality is again blamed. In reality the males have done all the damage on the last two fittings and get none of the blame  :)

It really is worth starting afresh with all new males and females and seeing how long they last. We find that working this way we usually get between 6-8 months from a set of fittings.

I will put this to the test with the next batch that I buy and see if as you have described it makes a significant difference to the lifespan of the Rectus 21.

Since these fittings are actually intended to be used for a different application other than what us WC use them for' including micro and minibore. It would be great if a WC industry supplier could design and supply some fittings and hose which is designed solely for water fed pole window cleaning. Or perhaps suppliers feel that there is no room for improvement on what we already use.
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: simon w on October 19, 2012, 04:59:18 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.

As Frank has mentioned already when replacing the female shut-off fitting you should always replace all of the males in use at the same time. According to all of the manufacturers of these items this should be standard practise. This advice is posted on our website under these fittings. A worn or damaged male fitting can inflict internal damage on the female and render it non-working sometimes within a matter of days. This appears to be the female 'failing' and yet is the males fault.

The typical pattern goes, you have a female fitting that lasts a good length of time say 8 months and then it is replaced. The male is not replaced and the new female lasts only about 2-3 months (because it is being used with an 8 month old male), you then replace the female again (usually muttering about poor quality!) with another female and still leave all of the now 10/11 month old males in place. The new female only last about 2-3 weeks and poor quality is again blamed. In reality the males have done all the damage on the last two fittings and get none of the blame  :)

It really is worth starting afresh with all new males and females and seeing how long they last. We find that working this way we usually get between 6-8 months from a set of fittings.
This logic works once it is the same accross all the brands. I gave up buying from your company when I had some go the same day or within a week of fitting them, not one but a few. I started buying the byersan model and have been using the same one for 6 months with the same male that supposedly caused the gardiners model to fail.

Hi David

You'll have to give me a link to those fittings your using? I'd be interested in taking a closer look

Simon
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: king marko on October 19, 2012, 05:30:14 pm
Change from 21 to rectus 26 mate - they last much longer
I last fitted a new male and female in feb this year and they still going strong  :)
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: davids3511 on October 19, 2012, 05:38:38 pm
are you replacing both ends at the same time,it is recommend that you do ;)

Hi Frank

If you mean the hose tail then No I'm only changing the Rectus 21. The hosetails last a long time before they need to be replaced but the Rectus 21's are to be honest cra@p I've noticed over the years that some seem to be better than others but recently the ones I've been buying seem to fail and have a significantly shorter life span' as mentioned above Cleantech used to supply the best I've ever used so I think I'm gonna try a few other suppliers and see if there are any improvements.

As Frank has mentioned already when replacing the female shut-off fitting you should always replace all of the males in use at the same time. According to all of the manufacturers of these items this should be standard practise. This advice is posted on our website under these fittings. A worn or damaged male fitting can inflict internal damage on the female and render it non-working sometimes within a matter of days. This appears to be the female 'failing' and yet is the males fault.

The typical pattern goes, you have a female fitting that lasts a good length of time say 8 months and then it is replaced. The male is not replaced and the new female lasts only about 2-3 months (because it is being used with an 8 month old male), you then replace the female again (usually muttering about poor quality!) with another female and still leave all of the now 10/11 month old males in place. The new female only last about 2-3 weeks and poor quality is again blamed. In reality the males have done all the damage on the last two fittings and get none of the blame  :)

It really is worth starting afresh with all new males and females and seeing how long they last. We find that working this way we usually get between 6-8 months from a set of fittings.
This logic works once it is the same accross all the brands. I gave up buying from your company when I had some go the same day or within a week of fitting them, not one but a few. I started buying the byersan model and have been using the same one for 6 months with the same male that supposedly caused the gardiners model to fail.

Hi David

You'll have to give me a link to those fittings your using? I'd be interested in taking a closer look



Simon

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Water-Fed-Pole-8mm-Hosetail-Minibore-Type-RECTUS-21-Fitting-Quick-Connector-/120850630096?pt=UK_HomeGarden_CLV_Cleaning_CA&hash=item1c234245d0
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: matthewprice on October 19, 2012, 05:48:56 pm
we went for 26,s and still going strong 9 months
Title: Re: Rectus 21's
Post by: evo on October 19, 2012, 06:32:56 pm
Who's the best supplier to use for Rectus 21's? I used to use Cleantech before they ceased trading, there fittings were good and well priced. I have used a different supplier since then but the fittings seem to break down much quicker with the bearings going and water flowing out of the fitting when you disconnect your pole hose.

Some recommendations on the best suppliers for this product atm would be very helpful  :)



have you tried these yet they are the dogs bits. been using them for over 12 months now with out any problems what so ever
http://www.aqua-dapter.co.uk/hose-fittings/quick-connect-female-connector-end-stop-1-4-hose-barb/