Clean It Up
UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: H2GoKent on October 16, 2012, 06:41:14 pm
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Bought a cheap second hand van, looked alright, tyres ok etc.
One of the tyres was a car tyre! Not rated for commercial use so has a smaller load rating, had it blown out and caused a crash I would be liable, possibly for manslaughter. The tyre looked identical to the others. The way to tell is look for the telltale letter C it should have. IE 185/65/R14C
Lugging 500litres of water around I was asking for trouble.
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The tyre walls are thicker I think, I always go for Continentals.
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Bought a cheap second hand van, looked alright, tyres ok etc.
One of the tyres was a car tyre! Not rated for commercial use so has a smaller load rating, had it blown out and caused a crash I would be liable, possibly for manslaughter. The tyre looked identical to the others. The way to tell is look for the telltale letter C it should have. IE 185/65/R14C
Lugging 500litres of water around I was asking for trouble.
I bet loads of windies are running vans on car tyres. Many years ago, I was a courier and I was always being told I was wasting my cash having van tyres on. I'm sure some on here will be the same.
Vin
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I have checked on lots of tyre websites with my van reg, it always comes up with peug expert panel van and the tyres required, and they are not c rated, I have been stopped and checked by traffic police and they have never mentioned the c rating and they were pretty severe on their checks
are you sure it doesn't only apply to larger vans
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Don't know anything about the "c" but I always put reinforced tyres on the van.
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When I ran my Doblo with 400L I always bought reinforced tyres. But if I was delivering crisps or flowers then I see no need.
My current - bigger - van is so obviously a "commercial van" that there is (quite rightly) little choice in the matter.
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I have checked on lots of tyre websites with my van reg, it always comes up with peug expert panel van and the tyres required, and they are not c rated, I have been stopped and checked by traffic police and they have never mentioned the c rating and they were pretty severe on their checks
are you sure it doesn't only apply to larger vans
Well this was at National Tyres.
I would imagine it depends on your load. With a full tank and all my gear I must be carting 650-700kg around, and then theres me. :-[ I'm a few kilos. My van is a scudo 815kg max load, that of course includes driver
I think it's one of those cases that if you had a crash cos of your tyre blowing they would look a lot closer...
the idea of being prosecuted bothers me less than the idea of wiping out someone's family on the motorway.
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from the national tyres website after in putting my reg
Your vehicle (registration SM53***) has been identified as a 2003 PEUGEOT DIESEL PANEL VAN (EXPERT DIESEL).
The following tyre specifications are associated with your vehicle: 195/14/70T/91
T rated not C
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had it blown out and caused a crash I would be liable, possibly for manslaughter.
lol
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had it blown out and caused a crash I would be liable, possibly for manslaughter.
lol
At the risk of feeding a troll I will respond
If you fail to maintain your vehicle and you cause a fatal accident they will throw the book at you.
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from the national tyres website after in putting my reg
Your vehicle (registration SM53***) has been identified as a 2003 PEUGEOT DIESEL PANEL VAN (EXPERT DIESEL).
The following tyre specifications are associated with your vehicle: 195/14/70T/91
T rated not C
Pass, all I know is car tyres are a lower weight rating are not suitable for a van with half of ton water in. Maybe I got the c bit wrong.
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from the national tyres website after in putting my reg
Your vehicle (registration SM53***) has been identified as a 2003 PEUGEOT DIESEL PANEL VAN (EXPERT DIESEL).
The following tyre specifications are associated with your vehicle: 195/14/70T/91
T rated not C
Pass, all I know is car tyres are a lower weight rating are not suitable for a van with half of ton water in. Maybe I got the c bit wrong.
no you got the C bit correct, c of commercial use, but a vehicle has a payload and the tyre recommended has to be able to take that payload, c is better but nothing wrong with a lower rating unless someone can tell me otherwise, and you can have a blowout with a C rated tyre just the same as a T rated tyre, just slow down stick on hazards and go to hard shoulder
my brother agrees with you totally and I hope someone can prove me wrong and prove it, then I will replace all my tyres but until then T will do for me
I am sure though that C is for larger vans like transits and bigger
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About 2 or 3 years back I had a blow out and put the spare on. I got a replacement tyre at a garage as the one that had blown was almost shredded in places. What ever it was I gone over on the motorway done the tyre in completely.
My van failed the mot about a month later because the tyre was the wrong type for my transit connect. The bloke said I needed a 'van' tyre, what ever that is.
£30 later, it passed the mot next day.
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It is entirely conceivable that I could easily carry 5 people in my car that would weigh in the same as my van loaded up.
Do I need to change my tyres on the car for this eventuality?
I run car tyres on my Berlingo, not only that I go down the scrappy and buy them at a tenner a piece, the ones on the front are a different profile height to the rear, it passed the MOT with no problems and drives/steers and stops just fine.
Some people are just the ticket for spending more money at these places.
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Your van will have an axle weight plate somewhere, you should use the correct weight rated tyre accordingly, have a look here...http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/load-and-speed-indexes-advice.html (http://www.tyres-pneus-online.co.uk/load-and-speed-indexes-advice.html)
Click on the load index button...
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well if your van has an average payload of 600kg, minus your weight I bet the amount left wouldnt be the weight of four large aduldts, which is wht a normal car would carry. Once you get into the realm of 1000kg and over thats different, but below that I wouldnt bother