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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: landy2 on October 15, 2012, 02:23:36 pm

Title: for guys who employ
Post by: landy2 on October 15, 2012, 02:23:36 pm
hello i was wondering about how you pay the wages of your employees  , when its raining , and when its too cold to work as last winter it whent on for a while and this summer its rained a lot , i have suffered on my own without having to find other wages ,  any info would be great  :)
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: William McCafferty on October 15, 2012, 03:01:34 pm
I have my employee on a 3 day week contract, so if rains stops play on one day then he works another day in the week, even though it has rained a lot this year, we are still upto date with all the customers.
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: bobplum on October 15, 2012, 03:22:22 pm
zero hour contract
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Richard iSparkle on October 15, 2012, 04:01:57 pm
we work all weather so no problem there

Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: robertphil on October 15, 2012, 04:41:20 pm
yes ,we also work in all weather,  ( only cease if its a raging gale )  its the only answer when you employ . 
 i make  sure to have a decent selection of nice waterproofs close at hand, arranged on hangers not stuffed under a van seat where they would get crumpled and soggy .
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Moderator David@stives on October 15, 2012, 11:25:51 pm
Just pay the guy, he is giving you his time, so just pay him wether its rain or shine
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: lyndy on October 16, 2012, 01:31:08 pm
Like Dave said,they are employed its up to you,to take the hit
On bad weather etc
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Approved on October 16, 2012, 03:43:38 pm
You have to pay in any weather our guys still work in the rain, who going to pay their bills, if It rains, they still have to earn their wages and put food on the table. Come work with my guys for a day!
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on October 16, 2012, 04:23:30 pm
or better still come work with me  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Dean Taberner on October 18, 2012, 09:05:12 pm
Keep calm, and carry on cleaning windows.
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: britishwill on October 18, 2012, 10:30:19 pm
I pay all weather as said before they have to get money and if they commit to me I commit to them.
Loyality is the key
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Neil Gornall on October 19, 2012, 07:50:55 am
If you employ on a  contract you are obligated by law to pay your guys even if it rains or the weather is so bad you send them home.
My contracts give them the required "statutory lay-off pay" as stated by the government.
If you send them home without pay you are breaking the law.
However you don't have to pay them at their normal rate of pay. Currently its stands at £23.50 a day for 5 days in any 3-month period.
Details here https://www.gov.uk/lay-offs-short-timeworking/guarantee-pay


Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: GS CLEANING SERVICES UK on October 19, 2012, 02:52:31 pm
Glad to see some employers have it right , at the moment im working for my cousin cos he has cancer and struggles cleaning , i said id help him keep the round straight , i dont mind working in rain but he says his customers dont like them cleaned in rain so therfore if its raining they dont get cleaned and i dont get paid , feel im under some obligation cos hes my cousin , but with winter coming i have to look after myself an family , bills etc
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: Neil Gornall on October 19, 2012, 03:20:08 pm
Glad to see some employers have it right , at the moment im working for my cousin cos he has cancer and struggles cleaning , i said id help him keep the round straight , i dont mind working in rain but he says his customers dont like them cleaned in rain so therfore if its raining they dont get cleaned and i dont get paid , feel im under some obligation cos hes my cousin , but with winter coming i have to look after myself an family , bills etc
As an employee you have rights (no matter who your employer is) and he has an obligation to "get it right"
I too used to send my lads home without pay thinking it was acceptable, not because I wanted to rip them off.
it was brought to my attention by an ex employee that maybe he was entitled to more so I went to see an employment solicitor who put me straight. I changed all my contracts that week and as a gesture of goodwill backdated all my lads pay for 1 year.
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: GS CLEANING SERVICES UK on October 19, 2012, 03:30:40 pm
Ha wouldnt mind workng for you Neil , as hes me cousin , we didnt have a contract but as its a 3-day round , if it dosnt get cleaned , say , on a monday , thats it for a fortnight , as thurs and fri , i have my own work to do (which i do , rain or shine ) , but some employers dont give a poop weather you take money home or not.........including family
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: William McCafferty on October 19, 2012, 03:33:26 pm
That is one of the main reasons I only get my staff to work a 4 day week, if it rains then they can use the other days in the week to catch up or the following week if needed, if though it is not possible and they don't work then I still pay them
Title: Re: for guys who employ
Post by: wightsurf on October 19, 2012, 06:53:45 pm
Because you don't have a written contract ,doesn't
Mean you don't have a contract of employment.