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UK Window Cleaning Forum => Window Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 10, 2012, 10:54:33 pm

Title: Phoenix poles
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 10, 2012, 10:54:33 pm
Can i ask when are they going to be back in stock please?
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Spruce on October 11, 2012, 07:32:56 am
Hi Dave

Aquadapter say next week on their website last time I looked.

Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 11, 2012, 08:22:05 am
thanks Bruce!
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 11, 2012, 09:43:32 am
We have completely sold out of the first few hundred poles released and are having more made every week. Demand is huge! Currently a supply of the Phoenix (glass) range has come available for order and in stock, this is proving excellent value and compares with other manufacturers composite pole in quality and performance without the higher cost. If you want to get a taste of why the Phoenix has everyone one talking and so excited, get one of these before they sell out!

Drop me an e-mail or call the office!
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: wightsurf on October 11, 2012, 10:27:05 am
Is glass range (hybrid) ?
And prices please ?
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 11, 2012, 10:45:54 am
Is glass range (hybrid) ?
And prices please ?

Glass range is the Full Fibreglass...

Please drop me a mail and I can send you over the full PDF price list..
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: thermoclean on October 11, 2012, 08:33:20 pm
I'm looking for a carbon 30 ft or maybe 35ft when are they likely to come into stock
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: roundbuilder on October 11, 2012, 08:51:46 pm
Could you send me the info on the phenix poles too. Pureaqua@hotmail.co.uk. Looking at buying some knew poles. Thanks
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 12, 2012, 08:37:54 am
Could you send me the info on the phenix poles too. Pureaqua@hotmail.co.uk. Looking at buying some knew poles. Thanks

E-mail on the way today..
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 12, 2012, 08:38:26 am
I'm looking for a carbon 30 ft or maybe 35ft when are they likely to come into stock

Please drop me an E-mail so I can inform you when these become available...
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 12, 2012, 10:33:34 pm
has anyone got a pole yet? can you tell me what it is like to use if you have? facelift have sold 100+ so someone somewhere must have got one delivered and used it for a day!
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Spruce on October 12, 2012, 11:21:23 pm
has anyone got a pole yet? can you tell me what it is like to use if you have? facelift have sold 100+ so someone somewhere must have got one delivered and used it for a day!

Hi
interesting point you have made here. Now maybe we could draw some logical conclusions from this.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 14, 2012, 01:06:54 pm
has anyone got a pole yet? can you tell me what it is like to use if you have? facelift have sold 100+ so someone somewhere must have got one delivered and used it for a day!

Most have gone oversea's whilst a fair few have been sold on UK soil... I believe a few comments have been mentioned after a few days work...
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on October 14, 2012, 05:36:49 pm
The carbon 18 is lovely  ;D the clamps are better than my slx s
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: advanced on October 14, 2012, 05:56:51 pm
Yeah love my slx but clamps not as nice as face lift  ones
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: colin purewater on October 14, 2012, 05:58:09 pm
What did you pay gor the 18 small?
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on October 14, 2012, 08:15:22 pm
£169 +vat
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: ben M on October 14, 2012, 08:51:55 pm
has anyone got a pole yet? can you tell me what it is like to use if you have? facelift have sold 100+ so someone somewhere must have got one delivered and used it for a day!

Most have gone oversea's whilst a fair few have been sold on UK soil... I believe a few comments have been mentioned after a few days work...
??? ??? is it true? hard to believe....
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: richard jagger on October 14, 2012, 09:20:03 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: ben M on October 14, 2012, 09:23:29 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

totally agree! we can't trust them now! Gardiner we can!
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Tony Edwards on October 14, 2012, 09:25:16 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

Never known alex to lie or come out with some old flannel
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: David Kent @ KentKleen on October 14, 2012, 09:27:00 pm
I started this post looking for some reviews on this new pole. A couple of positive but brief comments is all i have to work with at the moment.  :(
It looks and sounds great i just want some in the field feedback please?? anyone??

Question for facelift.
Do you have overseas distributors or do you send them direct?

Do you have any carbon poles in stock if so what sizes please?
Many thanks
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: SB Cleaning on October 14, 2012, 09:33:49 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.
+1
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Halfadaylee on October 14, 2012, 09:38:40 pm
I believe Mike, after all 4 out of the 6 poles made could have gone to Afghanistan. ;D
Art
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Stephen Fox on October 14, 2012, 10:46:51 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

The first batch were for distributors world wide and a few preview poles. These went immediately. Not a marketing ploy, just an excellent product which people have got very excited about. I'm guessing you've not actually seen or used one yet?
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Stephen Fox on October 14, 2012, 10:48:40 pm
totally agree! we can't trust them now! Gardiner we can!

Why? Can't quite see the logic in that statement.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 14, 2012, 10:49:09 pm
Nothing to do with marketing..... Or how easy something is to "crack"

Facelift already has distributors in Europe and USA and we have had for years....

We offered the range to alot of distributors and some took them whilst some didn't. Geography didn't affect our cost to offer these... The contacts were a call or email away... It's a small world!

Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: ben M on October 14, 2012, 11:26:26 pm
totally agree! we can't trust them now! Gardiner we can!

Why? Can't quite see the logic in that statement.
i can! you want to sell some products but you don't have them in stock! not a good start,is it?
I lost interest, i am out! good luck anyway
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: ♠Winp®oClean♠ on October 14, 2012, 11:47:02 pm
Will the next batch (the ones for public retail) be of "exactly" the same spec' as the distributor/preview specific poles?

Has anyone weighed one yet- outside facelift or WCW? ;D
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: G Griffin on October 14, 2012, 11:48:50 pm
Ye like all the new poles went overseas and there is a great market in the U K. Sales pitch and weak marketing ploy to me. BEEN IN THE MARKETING GAME FOR A LONG TIME. BUILD YOUR LOCAL MARKET FIRST ITS THE CHEAPER MARKET TO CRACK. Then kill the world. Its sound like a story to me.  ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? Believe what you like I know were my vote goes.

Never known alex to lie or come out with some old flannel

He used to use an old one as a sill cloth.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Small but perfectley formed on October 15, 2012, 07:01:10 am
It's a pole not a car  ???
It's rigid light and has user friendly clamps , ok :-X
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Dave Willis on October 15, 2012, 07:44:07 am
We have loads of Poles in our town that should be sent overseas.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 15, 2012, 09:35:37 am
It's a pole not a car  ???
It's rigid light and has user friendly clamps , ok :-X

Thanks for the support from everyone...
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: suds window service on October 15, 2012, 09:57:43 pm
I am baffled by this so called launch of this pole it seems to be a marketing nightmare! You would have thought that facelift would have made sure some poles found there way to cleaning companies on this forum. We use solely Gardiners poles but would have been more than happy to test drive this product, and give an unbiased review.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 15, 2012, 10:28:20 pm
I am baffled by this so called launch of this pole it seems to be a marketing nightmare! You would have thought that facelift would have made sure some poles found there way to cleaning companies on this forum. We use solely Gardiners poles but would have been more than happy to test drive this product, and give an unbiased review.

A few forum users have commented on the poles they have received..

Have a look through the other past threads about the Phoenix... There is around 4 threads.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Joey Heinz on October 15, 2012, 11:12:50 pm
A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 15, 2012, 11:18:03 pm
A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.

Joey, your based in Wigan, you making it over to Richy's place tomorrow night on the wirral?
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Joey Heinz on October 15, 2012, 11:31:59 pm
I've seen it, a 22' carbon, a guy who cleans near me has had one for a week, loves it.
I'm liking it, but I only window clean a couple hours a week, back pack and extel!! I know rubbish, but ok for show homes I clean.
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: Mike @ Facelift on October 15, 2012, 11:34:09 pm
I've seen it, a 22' carbon, a guy who cleans near me has had one for a week, loves it.
I'm liking it, but I only window clean a couple hours a week, back pack and extel!! I know rubbish, but ok for show homes I clean.

No problem, Thanks for the feedback... hopefully we can touch base in the future... I'm based not far from you myself...
Title: Re: Phoenix poles
Post by: suds window service on October 16, 2012, 09:03:10 am
A few window cleaners on here think their investors on dragon den, good god it's a pole.... Not a £100,000 investment.

not a all joey. just really rubbish marketing 1) lets make enough poles to satisfy early demand. 2) lets launch the pole at several sites around the uk. 3) lets have a video demo of the new pole in action so everyone can see it.
 simples really.............