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Title: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 28, 2012, 06:49:18 pm
Has anyone for a fogwash/L5/other heater and run 2 pumps from it?
I remember reading that slumpbuster had the pumps after the heater pulling the water through, buts he's gone so I can ask him. So has anyone else done this?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on September 28, 2012, 06:51:02 pm
ste m m8 ;)
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Gav Camm lammy 283 on September 28, 2012, 06:51:28 pm
oh and nath jones
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Carl@Cwc on September 28, 2012, 07:23:54 pm
Has anyone for a fogwash/L5/other heater and run 2 pumps from it?
I remember reading that slumpbuster had the pumps after the heater pulling the water through, buts he's gone so I can ask him. So has anyone else done this?

good post m8
i was thinking the very same today.
already got a fogwash in 1 van and gonna add another operative to the van . and this would save a few quid.
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 28, 2012, 10:08:14 pm
I have used a fogwash for 2yrs with one pump 2 men.

Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Carl@Cwc on September 28, 2012, 10:48:07 pm
I have used a fogwash for 2yrs with one pump 2 men.

Roy

hi roy
i emailed u about leaflets a while ago. ;)

do u run the fogwash beore or after the pump ?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: LWC on September 29, 2012, 03:44:52 am
Surely pump needs to be before heater to ignite it? Thats how i thought it worked, i doubt it would ignite pulling through...i could be wrong?

Also why dont you just go 1 pump, heater, t peice 2 reels. Cant see why that wouldnt work. Just like having 2 hot taps in a caravan if you think about it.

I run 1 pump 2 reels, without a heater but it works fine with just the 1 pump.
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 29, 2012, 07:39:28 am
For the guys that use 1 pump 2 reels, do you also have a controller? How does this handle 2 pumps?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Dave Willis on September 29, 2012, 08:12:28 am
I 'pull' through mine. The heater isn't designed to take much pressure. Get too much and it blows out of the valve underneath.
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 29, 2012, 08:14:38 am
I 'pull' through mine. The heater isn't designed to take much pressure. Get too much and it blows out of the valve underneath.

Do you get any problems pulling it through? What heater are you using?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 29, 2012, 08:34:37 am
I have used a fogwash for 2yrs with one pump 2 men.

Roy

hi roy
i emailed u about leaflets a while ago. ;)

do u run the fogwash beore or after the pump ?


The tank then pump then the Fogwash.

Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 29, 2012, 08:41:47 am
I have used a fogwash for 2yrs with one pump 2 men.

Roy

hi roy
i emailed u about leaflets a while ago. ;)

do u run the fogwash beore or after the pump ?


The tank then pump then the Fogwash.

Roy

Do you use a controller with your pumps?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 29, 2012, 08:47:34 am
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/ROYS100/Fogwash027.jpg)


The blue hose is from the pump and heater into the manifold the 2 red hoses are the hot out.

Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 29, 2012, 08:55:13 am
That's a smart way of doing it. Does the controller cope of with 2 poles, when one pole gets turned off dies the other get a boost in pressure?
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 29, 2012, 09:02:21 am
We use 6mm thermo bore so only a little bit. But if one dead heads the hose for more that five mins all the heat is going to one pole, so we don't stop the flow for long periods.

Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Carl@Cwc on September 29, 2012, 10:05:13 am
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/ROYS100/Fogwash027.jpg)


The blue hose is from the pump and heater into the manifold the 2 red hoses are the hot out.

Roy

absolute brilliant way to do it m8   ;)

off to my local b&q to get them bits.
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: LWC on September 29, 2012, 11:28:45 am
We use 6mm thermo bore so only a little bit. But if one dead heads the hose for more that five mins all the heat is going to one pole, so we don't stop the flow for long periods.

Roy

Yeh and if you think about it, if your both working together properly you should be finishing around the same time anyway.
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 29, 2012, 01:18:42 pm
I now use two in feeds, one blue for cold in and one red hot in.

I put a T in before the heater, if you close the hot and open the cold then no water goes through the heater. So you can chose to have hot or cold  by turning on the relevant tap.


Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: keyser soze on October 12, 2012, 06:57:11 pm
I now use two in feeds, one blue for cold in and one red hot in.

I put a T in before the heater, if you close the hot and open the cold then no water goes through the heater. So you can chose to have hot or cold  by turning on the relevant tap.


Roy


brilliant  ;D
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Dani J on October 12, 2012, 09:04:38 pm
(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/ROYS100/Fogwash027.jpg)


The blue hose is from the pump and heater into the manifold the 2 red hoses are the hot out.

Roy


Hi Roy
Thats great looking set up, do you have any more photo of your set up?

Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Roy Harding on October 13, 2012, 09:01:50 am
Here is some of my other van how I used the T after DI.

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/ROYS100/002.jpg)

So Di to the T one Feed goes to the heater then then hot through red pipe to manifold.
The other pipe goes to the blue pipe cold into the manifold.
So you can chose hot or cold by just opening a tap.

(http://i1091.photobucket.com/albums/i390/ROYS100/001.jpg)

Roy
Title: Re: Successfully running 2 pumps-fogwash?
Post by: Ian Sheppard on October 15, 2012, 09:46:09 am
For the guys that use 1 pump 2 reels, do you also have a controller? How does this handle 2 pumps?

Hi Lee

The controller will run two pumps however you would need to recalibrate the controller with both hoses running. It is possible that if the two poles are working at different heights that the pressure difference may cause the controller to DE which would cut flow to both poles.

Also the controller can handle 7.5 amps of current so running two pumps may cause the controller to shut down over this. The controllers have a over current protection ( OC ) to prevent the control burning out.

A pump running at 70% capacity is drawing around 3.5 to 4 amps this current passes through the controller so two pumps running at 70% you are close to the maximum current the controller can handle.

My advise would be to fit your spare controller to the 2nd pump.

Cheers

Ian