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Title: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: martin19842 on January 26, 2006, 06:06:28 pm
hi there,

ok my prochem cheyenne appears to have died today,

not power to anything,  checked the fuse and the cable connection into the machine.

all seems ok,, any ideas anybody?????

please

cheers

regards

martin
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: cleaning co on January 26, 2006, 06:10:45 pm
if its not fuse in plug and the leads are connected ok there must be a fuse in the machine i would hav thought
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: John Kelly on January 26, 2006, 06:13:52 pm
Martin

Sometimes you can have a break internally in  the cable around where it enters the machine try wiggling this whilst switched on. If is  broken you need to open up machine and cut off damaged section and re-connect or renew whole cable.
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 26, 2006, 06:36:53 pm
If I remember my Cheyanne, the wiring was all of a single live wire, this wire went into the first switch the all the other switches had a feed into this first switch.

if everything is dead I would think its the main feed wire, pop out the switches and look for a loose wire.

Mike
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: martin19842 on January 26, 2006, 07:27:50 pm
ok thanks for that,

the cable entering the machine looks good, but then it appears to go into a capicitor of sorts, about an inch in diameter, ny about 2 to 3 inches long, 

it doesnt show up on the wiring diagram??

regards

martin
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: John Kelly on January 26, 2006, 08:47:40 pm
If you can undo the cable from the machine end, do that and attach it to a lamp fitting or something. Just to make sure. As they are coiled up you sometimes get internal breakages which eventually recede from each other breaking the circuit.
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: Mike Halliday on January 26, 2006, 08:52:43 pm
Bypass it, it does'nt do anything important, I took mine out it made no difference.
Mike
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: Geoff Jewkes on January 26, 2006, 08:59:36 pm
Does it have a cut out if full??? Has the float switch got stuck??? Have Alltec 40 plus and when full cuts out pump & vacs. Try phonig prochem they`re very helpful
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: martin19842 on January 26, 2006, 09:02:52 pm
HI THERE

A BiG THANK YOU  to you all,

im stuck in a meeting all day tomorrow, but its in the garage first thing on saturday morning, and fingers crossed.

i bought her second hand last march, and she 's worth her weight in gold.

regards

martin
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: cleanlet on January 31, 2006, 09:13:34 am
try drying the electrics out with A HAIR DRYER SOMETIMES WATER GET IN
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: martin19842 on January 31, 2006, 08:47:33 pm
hi there,

its fixed, internal cable break,

good job fixed it had a another burst pipe job today.

lovely!!!!!!!!!!!!

regards

martin
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: BRSL on January 31, 2006, 09:00:15 pm
Did you use John K's advice and try wiggling the wire with it switched on  :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o :o

Ere John I can see why you clean carpets and your not an electrician lol  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

heres a tru story , my uncle he is a sparky and he's colour blind  :o :o :o :o :o

Glad too see your back and running Martin  ;)

James
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: John Kelly on January 31, 2006, 09:14:17 pm
Obviously you wouldn't wiggle the wire if it is physically damaged. What happens is the internal wires snap and eventually burn back due to arcing. If you switch on an wiggle them you often get a sharp burst of power. If so you have sourced the problem. Alternatively you could send it to a repair shop and pick up a lovely fat bill.
Colour blind sparky....bloody hell
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: John Kelly on January 31, 2006, 09:21:32 pm
By the way, everyone should have an RCD on their equipment. Water and electricity don't mix. Used and tried loads over the years. Best ones from Wickes about 8 quid, very rarely pack in.
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: martin19842 on February 01, 2006, 07:42:25 am
hi there

john

if we carry on the way we are we might have to spend some of our profits on better kit for this commercial work, and for the emergency stuff.

at present ive got 12 dehums and about 5 air movers on 4 sites, so its going well, and paying well.  If we could just stick with this work, i'd be a happy man.


regards

martin

Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: ollie on February 01, 2006, 10:07:33 am
John...whats an RCD?
Thanks
Ollie
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: BRSL on February 01, 2006, 10:15:20 am
Ollie

its a "residual current device " or trip switch, if using any electrical equipment on commercial jobs I think you must have one  ;)

James
Title: Re: Prochem Cheyenne-- died-- help please
Post by: ollie on February 01, 2006, 10:17:13 am
Thanks James.