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Title: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Steve H on September 19, 2012, 10:34:26 pm
I have been using a really good quality micro fibre (for detailing), but have now bought some grade A scrim. Not sure about it as yet as it doesnt seem to mop things up as easily as my microfibre.
Can ask, those that use scrim is it best to have it slightly damp (like you would an old fashioned chammie leather) so it picks up more moisture? i used mine dry today and it didnt feel great to be honest - maybe its just me  :)
Cheers

Steve
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: 4S Cleaning on September 19, 2012, 10:40:28 pm
I'm only a new start and use a grade scrims, when it gets wet you'd be better detailing with your tongue IMHO
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Lee GLS on September 19, 2012, 10:51:11 pm
Scrim takes a while to break in, but once it is it's better for detailing than microfibres IMHO
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: James chapman on September 20, 2012, 06:18:31 am
Blue micro fibre cloths can't  remember what make they are. Wcw,maybe they are better than the unger ones and scrim
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 20, 2012, 07:42:41 am
Unger green microfiber for me all day
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: wfp master on September 20, 2012, 03:58:21 pm
scrim all day for me. i gave up with the paragon micro fibres got wet to quickly & left a mess when detailing edges. scrim stays drier longer & absorbs better plus a lot quicker to dry out. a new bit of scrim  takes a while until it starts to get damp.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: johnny bravo on September 20, 2012, 04:14:43 pm
damp scrim to clean small panes,   well ringed out scrim to buff off,  try on your own windows,  dont forget   when only using 1 scrim you are just rubbing glass,  you will see marks when sun shines on the glass,  a me some people use 1 scrim to clean tops,  they are paying yuo to do a decent job,    there will always be someone else knocking  and canvassing.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: combat1 on September 20, 2012, 04:24:56 pm
ramon make a blue glass cloth wihich is the best for detailing. I have never used scrim, used to use linen tea cloths. The blue glass cloth is the best you'll get. Just stick it in the washing machine, no conditioner.
My cloths are around 5 or 6 years old now and as good as new.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Steve H on September 20, 2012, 07:35:34 pm
Thanks fellas for all the info some great info on their, i will have to try a couple of the suggestions to see how i get on as no right answer by the sound of things, its down to preferences.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Erithwc on September 20, 2012, 07:38:34 pm
I use scrim but i am now looking a getting microfibre instead much better than a scrim.

Paul
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: wfp master on September 20, 2012, 07:59:44 pm
no no no no. scrim rules.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: steve rix on September 20, 2012, 08:37:12 pm
Srim, properly washed is the best by miles
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Steve H on September 20, 2012, 10:43:37 pm
i have washed the scrim in washing machine for the first time, it already feels softer after just one wash (it was supposed to be pre-washed but im not sure to be honest) as said it will probs get better as i use it and wash it i will keep using it for now.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: rosskesava on September 21, 2012, 12:18:12 am
Microfibre for the glass and scrim for the frames.

Scrim leaves bit of fluff, fibre etc, on on the glass.

Microfibre is slightly abrasive and highly absorbent so is better for glass.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: dazmond on September 21, 2012, 08:15:30 am
best thing to do with new scrim is leave them in boiling water overnight and use them as sill cloths for a few weeks then they are ready for detailing after a few washes.

beware though as they can clog up your washing machine with cloth fibres if you wash loads of them regularly.

i use microfibre cloths these days as their more economical,dont leave cloth fibres on windows and dont need "breaking in".



dazmond
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: robertphil on September 21, 2012, 08:22:20 am
scrim for me.     i have about 60 now and swear by them. i probably wash 10 each night,thats spread over 5 workers .having said that we use them as sill cloths too
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Steve H on September 21, 2012, 08:59:39 am
thanks fellas - just wanted to add to that and ask is there a particular quality of microfibre (ie Ungar etc) that people go for or is it just any decent microfibre for the windows and more absorbant stuff (thicker pile) for the sills.

I have washed the crim by the way in the washing machine and it feels better already, i just washed it without softner etc (as they arent dirty) may need a more intense wash as they get dirty.... thanks fellas
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Roy Harding on September 21, 2012, 09:09:43 am
Scrim as said takes a while to work at its best. As already said use them to wipe sills at first, and wash every night. Also when they start to get wet you can detail the window first, before squeegeeing it.

Also remember the more water you put on a small pane of glass, the more you have to wipe off.

Roy
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Wc Solutions on September 21, 2012, 09:41:54 am
Scrim! Stopped using them in 1998! Micro wipes green or blue all day long!
Title: Re: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: combat1 on September 27, 2012, 02:37:48 pm
How many microfibre cloths do you guys use for detailing in a day? going to put an order in and need a guide. Also which ones are best, thanks
Title: Re: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: dazmond on September 27, 2012, 07:24:27 pm
buy a pack of 10 unger large green microfibres from the windowclean centre.you wont be disappointed!they are excellent quality and ive had mine about a year now and they are still as good as new!! ;) ;D ;D

absolutely miles better than scrim IMO.

I used scrim for 14 years but i will never go back to it now.


very best wishes


regards


dazmond
Title: Re: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Fin Clearview on September 27, 2012, 07:39:11 pm
^ I haven't moved onto MF yet but after years of working with smelly scrim, I am looking forward to it, can't stand the stuff anymore.
Title: Re: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: robbo333 on September 27, 2012, 08:01:15 pm
Good quality microfibres work lovely, I've never used scrim but haven't missed it either.
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: wightsurf on September 27, 2012, 08:11:14 pm
Scrim as said takes a while to work at its best. As already said use them to wipe sills at first, and wash every night. Also when they start to get wet you can detail the window first, before squeegeeing it.  
Also remember the more water you put on a small pane of glass, the more you have to wipe off.

Roy

Never tried this or even heard of it,but will give it a go. Is it quicker ?
Any one else tried it
Title: Re: micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: GB Window Cleaning on September 27, 2012, 09:08:54 pm
Scrim takes a while to break in, but once it is it's better for detailing than microfibres IMHO
i agree. i tried to get on with microfibre but it wasnt for me.
Title: Re: Micro fibre or scrim?
Post by: Steve H on September 27, 2012, 10:06:24 pm
I have just tried some microfibre cloths, they are top quality unger ones for glass (you can get thicker rougher ones for the sills etc) its important to get the right ones if you want to use them for just the glass, the cloth is much finer than normal microfibre. I only went for the smaller size, so any wet bit doeasnt dangle down onto the window - you can buy then in packs of ten if you want to.

I  will still be using my scrim to wipe down the upvc and sills etc and to wipe away most of the water round the edge of the window. For the finer detailing, just the bit that may be left on the edges of the glass, i just use these to wipe round the outside edge -  just finger width. I find they get rid of any slight bemishes on the glass, where the old scrim might leave a slight trail. Either way you have to keep them really dry and clean and just use them round the edges of the window/glass.

Steve