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Title: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: bobplum on September 13, 2012, 10:09:51 pm
firstly i love my AD but will admit it can increase the weight on the end of the pole and really it becomes more noticeable when you take it of after using it for a good 6 months i never notice the difference.
It really as saved me a lot of water but unfortunately i damaged it the other week,for those that are familiar with the AD i broke part of the black plastic housing which holds the trigger/switch and the small spring,it was still functional but all be it 85% so decided to replace with an other AD but in the mean time took it off and used a small tap on the hose which was ok but a lot of fiddling in my opinion compared to the AD,then came across the pure freedom pole flow control valve,which sits on the base of the pole used it tonight and i was pleasantly surprised by it and for £20.00 incl i think it may be a good alternative to the AD,time will tell
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on September 13, 2012, 10:40:53 pm
Does it mean a hose loop?
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: ben M on September 13, 2012, 10:43:39 pm
ask daz!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Blue Frog Systems on September 13, 2012, 10:44:15 pm
Yes it does unfortunately Ronnie
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Post by: windiewasher on September 13, 2012, 11:17:42 pm
I have gone through atleast 10 pole taps.
Waste of time and money.
Always leak
Hose twists everywhere and kinks.
I find it easier and quicker to just twist the hose.aqua dapter stuff its brilliant.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: rosskesava on September 14, 2012, 01:44:46 am
I have the hose outside the pole and I just kink the hose to stop the flow. It's so so so simple and costs nothing.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: William McCafferty on September 14, 2012, 06:45:32 am
It might be better if aqua dapter look at changing the position of where the ad goes, make one that works on the beginning of the pole not the end.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Smart Carpet on September 14, 2012, 07:18:57 am
you can't really have AD at the bottom of pole as the pole extends and needs to draw more pole hose through.  They'd have to drastically redesign it to work, which would make an overpriced item even more expensive.

I have a trigger fitted on one pole but the loop of hose can be irritating.

Why not just pinch the hose? I can use the soft gardiners hose like a trigger if I hold it and pinch it when needed.





Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on September 14, 2012, 07:47:46 am
Pinchin the hose is cheaper and easy but a real pain for me at least. I was always holding on the bloody hose. Move a bin, hose comes with you, move a bike, hose comes with you, untangle a kink, hose comes with you, want a wee chinwag with some custies, hose comes with you. Then when I got back to the van and switched off the pump to move to next job, the excess pressure in the pole hose just spewed out when I unpinched.

Aqua-Dapter is not perfect but for me it's the most convenient way to batter on.    
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Ian Sheppard on September 14, 2012, 08:39:46 am
Have A look at this http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=155895.0

Worth a look
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: ben M on September 14, 2012, 09:15:32 am
www.springltd.co   :)
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: JackieW on September 14, 2012, 03:46:23 pm
Not having any experience of WFP does this coiled set up seem any good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZjArWQK9Q&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZjArWQK9Q&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Avo on September 14, 2012, 03:58:30 pm
Whats wrong with putting a pole tap on the brush end of your poles, least you ain't got that awful loop or bending down!!
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Ronnie Bryce on September 14, 2012, 04:06:58 pm
Quote from: JackieW on September 14, 2012, 03:46:23 pm
Not having any experience of WFP does this coiled set up seem any good?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZjArWQK9Q&feature=player_embedded

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arZjArWQK9Q&feature=player_embedded

The amount of water inside that coil will weigh more than the pole itself.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: evo on September 14, 2012, 04:10:44 pm
Quote from: Avo on September 14, 2012, 03:58:30 pm
Whats wrong with putting a pole tap on the brush end of your poles, least you ain't got that awful loop or bending down!!


I agree on this one i have one pole like this and if you need to stop the water flow then just pinch the hose and its ideal for cleaning down stairs windows as well.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 14, 2012, 04:11:56 pm
I always thought an AD or trigger type device at the base of the pole would be perfect - - you'd need to change the way it operated so that instead of using a valve, it pinches the hose closed. when un-pinched the hose would be free to go up & down the pole as required,.. turn the tap or loose the trigger to pinch the hose & stop the flow.

I guess it wouldn't work with every brand of pole hose,.. and the brands it did work with may wear a little quicker due to all the pinching - - but it'd keep any extra weight at the base of the pole & get rid of that annoying loop you get with triggers.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Steve Sed on September 14, 2012, 04:16:50 pm
I use the Pure Freedom tap on pole, but it adds weight. When it broke last week the weight saving was a revelation. Rich with the pink van sent me a tap hoster which I am going to try.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: evo on September 14, 2012, 04:22:22 pm
would it be possibly to have a hoster on your belt that all you had to do is clip the hose on to it something like a quick release
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Tom White on September 14, 2012, 04:31:19 pm
Quote from: rosskesava on September 14, 2012, 01:44:46 am
I have the hose outside the pole and I just kink the hose to stop the flow. It's so so so simple and costs nothing.

That's the way I do it.  It also means you can change poles quickly (if you're really lazy like me and like a short pole for certain jobs instead of a closed SLX).

It also means you don't get all that dirt dragged up the inside of your pole too.

Nothing can break or go wrong with this method either.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: shina on September 14, 2012, 05:33:06 pm
I use a remote control, always have and it works great, infact I have 2 spare just in case but have never needed them. For my backpack I just kink the hose.
Both ways work very well. The AD cannot be used with the hose on the outside.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Smart Carpet on September 15, 2012, 01:34:51 pm
Quote from: James@shine4u on September 14, 2012, 04:22:22 pm
would it be possibly to have a hoster on your belt that all you had to do is clip the hose on to it something like a quick release

Holster?  Yes.
(http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Leather-Holster-WEB.jpg) (http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/water-fed-accessories/leather-holster-microbore.html)

Not very practical (IMO) as it usually makes your leg wet and restricts your movement somewhat.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: bobplum on September 15, 2012, 01:53:36 pm
Quote from: J WFP. on September 15, 2012, 01:34:51 pm
Quote from: James@shine4u on September 14, 2012, 04:22:22 pm
would it be possibly to have a hoster on your belt that all you had to do is clip the hose on to it something like a quick release

Holster?  Yes.
(http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/components/com_virtuemart/shop_image/product/Leather-Holster-WEB.jpg) (http://www.windowcleaningwarehouse.co.uk/shop/water-fed-accessories/leather-holster-microbore.html)

Not very practical (IMO) as it usually makes your leg wet and restricts your movement somewhat.


agree
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Dave Willis on September 15, 2012, 02:10:08 pm
What we need obviously is a tap that works as a cam  ;)
The hose passes under the open cam then the lever can be closed to pinch the flow off anywhere on the hose and locked in position.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 15, 2012, 02:15:13 pm
Quote from: Mark Etting on September 15, 2012, 02:10:08 pm
What we need obviously is a tap that works as a cam  ;)
The hose passes under the open cam then the lever can be closed to pinch the flow off anywhere on the hose and locked in position.

Exactly what I was trying to say. It should be easy to combine this setup with a trigger.

It should also be very cheap to produce - it'd be nearly all plastic, no valves or connectors etc.
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Dave Willis on September 15, 2012, 02:20:14 pm
Even something as basic as this would work but would need modifying.

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?q=hose+pinch+clamps&hl=en&biw=1366&bih=643&tbm=isch&tbnid=OwPRNsr5BJklVM:&imgrefurl=http://www.overclock.net/t/847223/do-i-need-a-fillport-and-or-a-qdc-how-do-i-drain-my-loop&docid=o6XL9D-rhLjSQM&imgurl=http://www.usplastic.com/catalog/images/products/valves/400/59199p.jpg&w=400&h=400&ei=9n9UUNeSE-So0QXRooCAAQ&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1100&vpy=300&dur=9329&hovh=225&hovw=225&tx=157&ty=134&sig=111120647880885266799&page=3&tbnh=142&tbnw=132&start=44&ndsp=27&ved=1t:429,r:12,s:44,i:249
Title: Re: alternative to aqua adapter..?
Post by: Nathanael Jones on September 15, 2012, 02:25:40 pm
Its probably even something you could print yourself:

http://reprap.org/wiki/Main_Page