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UK General Cleaning Forum => General Cleaning Forum => Topic started by: Len Gribble on August 29, 2012, 07:18:38 pm

Title: Rust marks
Post by: Len Gribble on August 29, 2012, 07:18:38 pm
Been asked if I can remover rust marks from concrete and block paving, I thought yes used what I normally use on carpets didn’t work. Any recommendations
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Griffus on August 29, 2012, 07:30:46 pm
Soak the area then apply Hydrochloric Acid. If just a small area use a paint brush to apply, if large then a sprayer better.

Buy from a local supplier which is likely to be about 16%. You can dilute this down a bit with water, about 2 water : 1 acid. Add the acid to the water, not the other way around and def wear PPE.
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Matt Gibson on August 29, 2012, 07:55:13 pm
Rust is very very hard to remove from concrete/blocks. i get good results with a wet sandblast.
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Griffus on August 29, 2012, 08:34:16 pm
Rust is very very hard to remove from concrete/blocks. i get good results with a wet sandblast.

Matt, try the acid as suggested above. It'll vanish before your eyes  :o
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Matt Gibson on August 29, 2012, 09:14:02 pm
Tried acid before mate.. thats all we used in London for years, if its been there a while, its a nightmare to get out...

Although you are right, it does work and thats what all rust removers have in them, the hydrochloric, but ive had very mixed results...some vanishes with acid, some takes a few coats, and some doesnt budge.. i just get the wetblaster out now mate, little bit of sand and 2 mins and its gone..



 
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Roger Oakley on August 29, 2012, 09:16:45 pm
Been asked if I can remover rust marks from concrete and block paving, I thought yes used what I normally use on carpets didn’t work. Any recommendations

What caused the rust?
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Blast Away on August 29, 2012, 10:39:32 pm
Rust is very very hard to remove from concrete/blocks. i get good results with a wet sandblast.

Matt, try the acid as suggested above. It'll vanish before your eyes  :o

I've applied 36% HC that I told you about to rust on concrete and didn't budge.

The American's go on about Oxalic Acid. I bought some, it came as a white powder, not liquid. Must need to use more than the 400g I had though for it to be effective. I bought it from Mistral Chemicals in Ireland.
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Griffus on August 29, 2012, 10:46:59 pm
Rust is very very hard to remove from concrete/blocks. i get good results with a wet sandblast.

Matt, try the acid as suggested above. It'll vanish before your eyes  :o

I've applied 36% HC that I told you about to rust on concrete and didn't budge.

The American's go on about Oxalic Acid. I bought some, it came as a white powder, not liquid. Must need to use more than the 400g I had though for it to be effective. I bought it from Mistral Chemicals in Ireland.

I forgot about Oxalic Acid. Rust Remover and Wood Brightener.

My supplier selles this for £1.97 a Kg, minimum order is 25Kg.

Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Len Gribble on August 30, 2012, 07:16:24 pm
(http://www.cleanitup.co.uk/smf/1346350562_rust.jpg)

Roger

Something metal methinks
 and a lot more
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Griffus on August 30, 2012, 07:38:38 pm
Concrete Crop Circles!

No wonder they won't budge  :o
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Len Gribble on August 30, 2012, 08:27:25 pm
Ian

Please don’t,  wait till I post pictures of galvanised stair case, we only got the contract because we are specialist in CC now they want more   ::)
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Roger Oakley on August 31, 2012, 03:59:45 pm
Len,

If all the paving is that type of concrete then Oxalic acid might well work, you would have to do the whole paving with the Ox as it will brighten the paving as well.
Tensid do a poultice for rust removal, so might be worth speaking to them to see if they will send you a sample to test.
Another product is Tensid's Limestone restorer.
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Len Gribble on August 31, 2012, 06:17:02 pm
To be honest Roger we only got involved when our commercial customer noticed we removed rust marking on there carpets and ask us to give it a go, this is newly laid concrete also on block paving.

I see you cover London can we pass your number on to them they are just the other side of Blackwell tunnel   
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Roger Oakley on August 31, 2012, 06:53:47 pm
Hi Len,

Yes passing on details not a problem, couldn't do this though till early November, can get over and quote in the next few weeks though. Let me know how this sit's with your client.
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: Len Gribble on August 31, 2012, 07:43:46 pm
Roger

Will do
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: jessicasmith on September 19, 2012, 01:19:44 pm
You can use lemon juice or white vinegar. Apply it on the stain and leave it for 5 minutes and then scrub the stained area by using nylon bristled brush or use tooth brush. Then after 5 minutes wash it off with clean water and if the stain remains then repeat the process.

Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: BDCS on September 24, 2012, 10:49:58 pm
Maybe they need a parker or a pair of tacky gold wellies  ;D
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: clairuk on September 25, 2012, 12:38:34 am
How about WD40?

I hear that works well on a Rusty Ring  :-X
Title: Re: Rust marks
Post by: BDCS on September 25, 2012, 06:14:38 pm
If you've got a crusty ring go to a doctor  :D